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#1 Mightyrant

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 04:44 AM

Not everything needs to be a complaint. Lets look at a few good things.

The Mad Cat MKII may look silly, but holy cow that thing can dish out a beating! It just tanks so much and can pack a nice high mounted punch! -or- An Uziel with 2 heavy PPC's is a viable IS poptart mech! We needed that around!

Seriously guys, while PGI may make some silly coding mistakes that cannot be defended, things eventually even out. Complaining like entitled snobs never helps anything. If you see something that needs a fix, send in a ticket for it. S**t posting on here doesn't really seem to get that job done. At least...it hasn't for the last 3 years.

I have read posts about this game dying and there being problems with it from day 1. Every day someone posts a new one, and all the same voices chime in with their opinions. It gets boring reading your stuff. The other players around you are not blind or dumb. When there is an issue, we see it and we report it through the proper channels and eventually something gets done. I don't mind waiting. But all this crying wolf every time there is a patch is exhausting. It tires me out just reading it, I cannot imagine how pgi feels when that is the only feedback they get.

Anyway, I love the game. Player count is still about the same. Sky is still where it should be and has not fallen.

Love,

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#2 Bud Crue

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 05:01 AM

Negativity? PGI edits the pure negativity. What you are seeing is "constructive discussion" as defined by PGI.

If ya want more honesty:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutreachHPG/

#3 Plastic Guru

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 05:04 AM

Hahah...been posting for almost a year. This isn't a forum it's a SALT MINE!!

Trust me...there's a ton of people who really make these forums toxic and they cross post daily. Absolutely NOT welcoming to noobs except in the new player forum (actively managed to pull the more acerbic comments).

Just get online and stomp some robots...it'll make posting on here more bearable.

PlasticGuru

#4 Wyald Katt

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 05:12 AM

If I simply said "yes", would that count as positive negativity or negative positivity? Posted Image

If life gives you salt mines, make margaritas? I'm sure things will settle down, a little bit, this weekend when folks take some time to cuddle up to the new stuff. It's kind of rough trying to sort things out at the end of a working day.

I've only messed with two mech loadouts so far. One of those was my old 6 laser ACH. Frustrated is a polite way of summing up my experience. I'm having my best results with six small lasers, the most not-new tech in the box.

Call me a relic, call me what you will
Say I'm old-fashioned, say I'm over the hill
Today's tech ain't got the same soul
I like that old time rock 'n' roll Posted Image

#5 MW Waldorf Statler

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 06:13 AM

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The Mad Cat MKII may look silly, but holy cow that thing can dish out a beating! It just tanks so much and can pack a nice high mounted punch! -or- An Uziel with 2 heavy PPC's is a viable IS poptart mech! We needed that around!

you drive a ugly car with no Brake,Light , only why is have a 4 Cylinder Engine ?
than im can fight with ecxel and no Grafic ,or going back to MW4 Mektek or to Pen and Paper TT..Why a High tech Color,HDMI, PC and all ,when im play with ugly designs...than MWLL and mW4 the better Alternate ...and quality managment for a Gaming Company with amny great words (not a Modteam) that will sell Product is the Basic...and PGI has since the Open beta nothing Quality managment and only reacting of Reaction from all the Salty Peoples ...Posted Image
why going from the Tree and leave Africa? here today Fruits...Or you find it funny thats in the year 2017 and a Epoch of GTA !...Russ says in townhall Citymaps to difficult for PGI?! thats with the ugly poor Animations a Blame for a game Company...play you ugly uziel and MKII of the every same maps...not only the Community is smaller ...many Guys with experience leave PGI..let seeing for MWO when HBS is full in action

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 20 July 2017 - 06:23 AM.


#6 Lily from animove

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 06:42 AM

View PostPlastic Guru, on 20 July 2017 - 05:04 AM, said:

Hahah...been posting for almost a year. This isn't a forum it's a SALT MINE!!

Trust me...there's a ton of people who really make these forums toxic and they cross post daily. Absolutely NOT welcoming to noobs except in the new player forum (actively managed to pull the more acerbic comments).

Just get online and stomp some robots...it'll make posting on here more bearable.

PlasticGuru


If you think so, you haven't seen many other forums, this feels like the most sugar laced pile of salt in the net.

#7 mogs01gt

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 06:49 AM

People complain because they feel the game can be better and become a great game. Most of complaints are accurate: 12v12, map designed, game modes, etc. etc.

#8 MW Waldorf Statler

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:14 AM

after the Open Beta ...many experience and Engagemmnt from PGI is gone,many elements from the game ..than little Moments of Hope (Map redesigns etc) with a new Mapteam ...Fixes of Problems and short after new fails and Uninspired Elements (VIP Modus-new Modes with no editing of the maps for it )...since 3 Years is more a "here ...Feed , and buy a Mechpack" ...news??? we planned ...we can not ...hope i future ...sorry to difficult...The MWO Ship is not sinking in the moment , its hang of a Cliff and is not sink not swim ....like Hawken today ..not dead , not lived...its give now good Events with very good aspects ....a Free lobby !!!! Comp modus !!!! hope of better FW features ,the Support Team from PGI is Great !!!! and we have very good Com manager ! thats the good sides of the Medal

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 20 July 2017 - 07:18 AM.


#9 davoodoo

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:19 AM

View PostMightyrant Kell, on 20 July 2017 - 04:44 AM, said:

The Mad Cat MKII may look silly

View PostMightyrant Kell, on 20 July 2017 - 04:44 AM, said:

Seriously guys, while PGI may make some silly coding mistakes that cannot be defended


dont be so negative op...

Edited by davoodoo, 20 July 2017 - 07:19 AM.


#10 Mister Blastman

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:19 AM

View PostPlastic Guru, on 20 July 2017 - 05:04 AM, said:

Just get online and stomp some robots...it'll make posting on here more bearable.


Umm, no, playing online isn't tolerable at all right now. The matchmaker is beyond awful at the moment, with 12-1 rolls every single game, robots in circles behind rocks in valleys waiting for the shadow of death, cougars and mist lynxes living together...

It's a bad, bad place. Unless you like misery.

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#11 4rcs1ne

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:26 AM

If we as a community did not complain and make our voice heard, our mini-map would be unusable and our mech select screen would still be a menu filled nightmare.

While you can make an argument for more civility, these forums are more civil than any other game forum I've ever read so I really don't see how this applies here.

#12 Ultimax

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:27 AM

There is so much to be negative about with PGI's "development" of this game.

#13 davoodoo

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:27 AM

View PostMatt2496, on 20 July 2017 - 07:26 AM, said:

If we as a community did not complain and make our voice heard, our mini-map would be unusable and our mech select screen would still be a menu filled nightmare.

thats actually pretty minor.

There would be no one left to enjoy abortion that ed was... cause everyone would be gone...

Edited by davoodoo, 20 July 2017 - 07:27 AM.


#14 MW Waldorf Statler

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:31 AM

its more like a ...Why so Negativity ?USA have a President ...umm ...ummm...umm

View PostMatt2496, on 20 July 2017 - 07:26 AM, said:

If we as a community did not complain and make our voice heard, our mini-map would be unusable and our mech select screen would still be a menu filled nightmare.

While you can make an argument for more civility, these forums are more civil than any other game forum I've ever read so I really don't see how this applies here.

the minimap is now half useable ..after 4 Years we have a guy tahts can working with Photoshop and now we have contrasting Numbers and Letters !!!! hope in the next 3 Years of a Minimap with simple visual Hightfield like most other Games ,and not a Pixie Screen..or a Overview map ,with transparency and Button for blend in the Game

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 20 July 2017 - 07:33 AM.


#15 Vincent DIFrancesco

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:33 AM

I can deal with salt here. It's a game forum. There's always kvetching in a game forum.

The negativity that gets to me is in-game, where some people feel like it's okay to berate others over voice comms. I don't care what reason they have for doing so, even if the target of their diatribe actually did mess up. [Oddly enough, most of the ones I've heard involved a target that did the best they could.] It's makes the salty one look like an *** and creates a horrible game experience for all.

Seriously, there is nothing that happens in-game that warrants being a schmuck.

#16 davoodoo

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:56 AM

Why does ppl even talk like "negativity"(basically complaints) are a bad things... without critique no one would ever improve...

#17 Mightyrant

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 08:04 AM

View Postdavoodoo, on 20 July 2017 - 07:19 AM, said:


dont be so negative op...



lol you got me.

The point is, we have a mechwarrior game. Praise be to Raptor Jesus for that. I dont mind the community getting together and forcing changes, but there should always be some sort of solution proposed or a fix thought of. I like this game and I am sorry to disagree with some of you, but i think the matchmaker is decent right now.

...and a hush falls over the croud...

Honestly? 12-1 rolls happen. Even to the good teams. Sometimes a player or 2 is not paying attention and the game punishes them for it. That happens in every game ever. I have never had too much of a problem getting good matches. the problem is when just 2 players jump in queue together and for a group, the matchmaker will put them in strange places. Bigger groups work better, but even then, stuff happens.

I like the game where it is. The stuff that needs fixing will eventually get fixed, and everything will be fine just in time for the sky to fall over the next big update. I didn't want to start a salt thread here, just posted a thought.

#18 Akillius

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 08:09 AM

This forum is somewhat middle of the road when it comes to negativity.
Even the most mature forums and games have at least a couple token resident trolls.
Do any of them help new players with any game in any way, nope not 1 iota.

View PostVincent DIFrancesco, on 20 July 2017 - 07:33 AM, said:

I can deal with salt here. It's a game forum. There's always kvetching in a game forum.

The negativity that gets to me is in-game, where some people feel like it's okay to berate others over voice comms. I don't care what reason they have for doing so, even if the target of their diatribe actually did mess up. [Oddly enough, most of the ones I've heard involved a target that did the best they could.] It's makes the salty one look like an *** and creates a horrible game experience for all.

Seriously, there is nothing that happens in-game that warrants being a schmuck.

^I agree totally with Vincent on this.
My block list is full of those silent players who don't speak until last 1-2 minutes of a match.
Then they start backseat driving with useless sarcastically salted comments.
Sometimes it's simpler to play MWO with all in-game chats and VOIP disabled. (I do this ~90% of time now.)

And does that help the team... no!
Does that stop me from being permanently banned for abusing the salty mindless troll-monkeys... hella yeah!

Had enough of the few bad apples in game? Maybe try playing with all in-game chats and VOIP disabled.
The E key still brings up the comms-ring for your team to see, but you won't see their chat/replies.

Edited by Max Rickson, 20 July 2017 - 08:11 AM.


#19 JadePanther

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 08:10 AM

rewind a few years to the great third person forum burning.. or the MWO reddit debacle... theres some negativity

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Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:02 AM

View PostMightyrant Kell, on 20 July 2017 - 04:44 AM, said:

Not everything needs to be a complaint.


I use up all my non-complaint willpower in gif posting. You can't ask me to do more than that.

(I do like ATMs, and even with her being embarrassingly unpolished, the fact that the Mad Cat MKII is in the game is really nice. But I'm still not happy about this patch. Not by a long shot.)





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