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#41 guardian wolf

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:22 PM

Just be careful of those Steiner's, they can't be trusted. And I would probably stay and fight, rather than run like those dogs from Steiner would. Social generals anyhow. Also be careful with the Dracs, as they'll shoot you as soon as you look at them. And don't even get me started on the Cappie's.
(Anyhow, maybe the next time I'm in an RP, I'll PM you to join.)
Also the rest of you have theories, come and tell here so I can finally get some truth going around, not all these *looks at the FRR guy with tinfoil hat* wild rumors. *Mumbles something incomprehensible under breath.* (Oh, and if I start cursing in Mando'a, sorry ahead of time.)

Edited by guardian wolf, 29 March 2012 - 05:24 PM.


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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:31 PM

*puts on tinfoil hat to* Its game over man GAME OVER....hey where all these huge alien like eggs come from?

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 05:34 PM

I swear they didn't come from us *looks at the eggs* what the hell? OHHHH JESUS IT'S HATCHING RUN AWAY!!! *huge mutated ostrich starts to chase all of them* HAAR CHAK THOSE DIKUTS AT NAIS.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 10:43 PM

Wolf's Dragoon's possition over-run by alien bird, Next headline in Comstar News Network

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:34 AM

Hahaha, well thank god that Kelly Yukinov was in his battlemech, we might have been screwed there.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 06:23 PM

Who wants white meat or dark? lol

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:14 PM

I wouldn't touch that, send it back to the idiots at NAIS, with a postcard saying they can have their 'presents' back.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:51 PM

INN editorial from the pen of a Wolfs Dragoons officer.
By: Star Captain Erich Peiper, Devil Dogs Trinary, Wolf's Dragoons

Instead of spending time attempting to understand warriors you've never met and broadcasting it in tabloids as truth, you should put your efforts into improving your lot. If our technology is so superior, it because we honor our techs, scientists, and bondsman. Those who argue that we take slaves, should reconsider when they see those same 'slaves' tear apart their former units in mechs that they obviously deserved but weren't given the chance to possess. We do not waste lives by sending nobles and laborers to learn to pilot mechs as if it were a hobby. Our mechwarriors have been trained from childhood to be who they are now. If they were not meant to be mechwarriors, we found another useful place for them in our ranks where their talents would be most beneficial. Our ranking system is not based off of political maneuvering and old age. Every one of our mechwarriors earns their ranks, and if they cannot lead, another has the right to challenge them and take their place. This is not barbaric, this is discipline. It is not a disgrace to lose rank. It is a disgrace to keep incompitent stravag - that is, inferiors - in a position where they would lead all to their death by their lack of forsight.

As for your claims that we are related to COMSTAR; might I point out that they do not waste their materials and resources attempting to create sprawling, inefficient, decadent empires as the 'great houses' have been exemplifying through waste of resources, technology, and their future for CENTURIES. COMSTAR claims their domain to be knowledge and the continuation of intersteller communication. In this capacity, they have been exemplary. The fact that they are creating garrisons around all their facilities only shows that they know they cannot trust the shortsighted people of the inner sphere from challenging their claim to ancient and new technology. Note that they have fielded battlemechs of different patterns than the great houses have. Even when a new battlemech is created and seen for the first time by a house, it is not considered alien. Why is it only Wolf's Dragoons that are accused of being aliens? Your superstitions obviously blind you from the truth. The truth is that we reflect what you could be if you would reorganize your society into one dedicated to ideals instead of illusions of power, politics, and religion.

Until you understand what I have said, you will continue to fall beneath the treads of Wolf's Dragoons. Perhaps the houses should look to us for inspiration and example. Neg. I am certain this will fall upon deaf ears as our example on the battlefield blinds our opponents to their own failures time and time again. The question I must ask is: What if there were an entire society that functioned similar to our small collection of warriors? I would guess that all the houses together would not be able to stop them. Think on that while you pick through the remains of the once great Star League and consider rebuilding it instead of carrying on the petty conflicts of nobles who have created seas of ash from promise and potential. ~ Seyla

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:08 PM

My Uncle was the Colonel of a unit on Jaipur, his unit was reinforced by 1 battalion of mechs from Wolf Dragoons. Using contacts, I've met in the Eridani Light Horse, I've noticed strange similarities in the mannerisms between the Eridani ( the most famous remnant of the SLDF in the Inner Sphere) and the dragoons. Using other the other limited data available, my theory is this. Kerensky and his soldiers departed on the great exodus; however, due to some unknown factor ( possibly infighting, but more likely an external factor, few survived. The survivors set up a small Terran Hegemony style government on either a planet or system. Eventually, some of the inhabitants longed for adventure and formed a group stylizing itself as a mercenary corp in order to regain entry into the society of the inner sphere. The psychological aspect of this theory is supported by the fact that the Iberian planets remained cut off from most technological access and communication with the inner sphere until their invasion by the mysterious Umayyad Caliphate. Therefore, it's likely that wherever the dragoons are from have had little contact with even periphery states.

Edited by Aedris Nova, 31 March 2012 - 10:09 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:11 AM

View PostPeiper, on 31 March 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

INN editorial from the pen of a Wolfs Dragoons officer.
By: Star Captain Erich Peiper, Devil Dogs Trinary, Wolf's Dragoons

Instead of spending time attempting to understand warriors you've never met and broadcasting it in tabloids as truth, you should put your efforts into improving your lot. If our technology is so superior, it because we honor our techs, scientists, and bondsman. Those who argue that we take slaves, should reconsider when they see those same 'slaves' tear apart their former units in mechs that they obviously deserved but weren't given the chance to possess. We do not waste lives by sending nobles and laborers to learn to pilot mechs as if it were a hobby. Our mechwarriors have been trained from childhood to be who they are now. If they were not meant to be mechwarriors, we found another useful place for them in our ranks where their talents would be most beneficial. Our ranking system is not based off of political maneuvering and old age. Every one of our mechwarriors earns their ranks, and if they cannot lead, another has the right to challenge them and take their place. This is not barbaric, this is discipline. It is not a disgrace to lose rank. It is a disgrace to keep incompitent stravag - that is, inferiors - in a position where they would lead all to their death by their lack of forsight.

As for your claims that we are related to COMSTAR; might I point out that they do not waste their materials and resources attempting to create sprawling, inefficient, decadent empires as the 'great houses' have been exemplifying through waste of resources, technology, and their future for CENTURIES. COMSTAR claims their domain to be knowledge and the continuation of intersteller communication. In this capacity, they have been exemplary. The fact that they are creating garrisons around all their facilities only shows that they know they cannot trust the shortsighted people of the inner sphere from challenging their claim to ancient and new technology. Note that they have fielded battlemechs of different patterns than the great houses have. Even when a new battlemech is created and seen for the first time by a house, it is not considered alien. Why is it only Wolf's Dragoons that are accused of being aliens? Your superstitions obviously blind you from the truth. The truth is that we reflect what you could be if you would reorganize your society into one dedicated to ideals instead of illusions of power, politics, and religion.

Until you understand what I have said, you will continue to fall beneath the treads of Wolf's Dragoons. Perhaps the houses should look to us for inspiration and example. Neg. I am certain this will fall upon deaf ears as our example on the battlefield blinds our opponents to their own failures time and time again. The question I must ask is: What if there were an entire society that functioned similar to our small collection of warriors? I would guess that all the houses together would not be able to stop them. Think on that while you pick through the remains of the once great Star League and consider rebuilding it instead of carrying on the petty conflicts of nobles who have created seas of ash from promise and potential. ~ Seyla


Like my shirt says and somones banner reads "Never under estimate stupid people in large groups" WD you have my respect and as a courtesy I offer this advice "bewary of ComStar there actions now are rather pacular".

*goes back to packaging up gaint dead alien birds* anyone know how much UPS charges for over lightyear shiping? :huh:

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:13 AM

View PostPeiper, on 31 March 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

INN editorial from the pen of a Wolfs Dragoons officer.
By: Star Captain Erich Peiper, Devil Dogs Trinary, Wolf's Dragoons

Instead of spending time attempting to understand warriors you've never met and broadcasting it in tabloids as truth, you should put your efforts into improving your lot. If our technology is so superior, it because we honor our techs, scientists, and bondsman. Those who argue that we take slaves, should reconsider when they see those same 'slaves' tear apart their former units in mechs that they obviously deserved but weren't given the chance to possess. We do not waste lives by sending nobles and laborers to learn to pilot mechs as if it were a hobby. Our mechwarriors have been trained from childhood to be who they are now. If they were not meant to be mechwarriors, we found another useful place for them in our ranks where their talents would be most beneficial. Our ranking system is not based off of political maneuvering and old age. Every one of our mechwarriors earns their ranks, and if they cannot lead, another has the right to challenge them and take their place. This is not barbaric, this is discipline. It is not a disgrace to lose rank. It is a disgrace to keep incompitent stravag - that is, inferiors - in a position where they would lead all to their death by their lack of forsight.

As for your claims that we are related to COMSTAR; might I point out that they do not waste their materials and resources attempting to create sprawling, inefficient, decadent empires as the 'great houses' have been exemplifying through waste of resources, technology, and their future for CENTURIES. COMSTAR claims their domain to be knowledge and the continuation of intersteller communication. In this capacity, they have been exemplary. The fact that they are creating garrisons around all their facilities only shows that they know they cannot trust the shortsighted people of the inner sphere from challenging their claim to ancient and new technology. Note that they have fielded battlemechs of different patterns than the great houses have. Even when a new battlemech is created and seen for the first time by a house, it is not considered alien. Why is it only Wolf's Dragoons that are accused of being aliens? Your superstitions obviously blind you from the truth. The truth is that we reflect what you could be if you would reorganize your society into one dedicated to ideals instead of illusions of power, politics, and religion.

Until you understand what I have said, you will continue to fall beneath the treads of Wolf's Dragoons. Perhaps the houses should look to us for inspiration and example. Neg. I am certain this will fall upon deaf ears as our example on the battlefield blinds our opponents to their own failures time and time again. The question I must ask is: What if there were an entire society that functioned similar to our small collection of warriors? I would guess that all the houses together would not be able to stop them. Think on that while you pick through the remains of the once great Star League and consider rebuilding it instead of carrying on the petty conflicts of nobles who have created seas of ash from promise and potential. ~ Seyla


Right... Whatever a Bondsman is. If you want POWs playing with your tech, that's your business, I personally find it unreiable as it may lead to random internal ammo explosions. I didnt spend the past 35 years in the biz to suddenly go picking up faith that there is some 'common good' in the galaxy. Business would slow down to a crawl and we'd both be out of work. As far as your toys go, I really cant argue with the results, but if you think they are some kind of earned blessing, then you've proven one thing, you're dangerously fanatical about your make-believe version of the galaxy.

Man's worth is set by the work of his brow, and I'd be damned if I listen to one word of someone questioning my ability in a mech. You want to talk about unification and a better way of life, makes ya no different than any of the other successor states, because they all believe the have 'the right way' to do things. Hell, that's what makes this business so lucrative. And hey, if you want to go around convering the entire Inner Sphere to your exempt 'way of life', have at 'er. Just means more c-bills lining my pocket.

As far as idealism against power and influence, sorry, but it's gonna be human nature to grab the power and influence over an ideal, and those that do otherwise typically are the gulable crazies. Though they do make for great expendable troops, and anything that stops me from paying more repair bills by drawing fire away from my mech is good by me.

You guys got the guns and the c-bills to make your own rules. Like I said before, that's fine, in the end we're all mercs looking for a pay-day, and if ya think your rules somehow bring you up to a higher standard and make you sleep better at night, then go for it, but dont take a leak on me and tell me it's raining. You take your paychecks, you do the job, you go home. That I respect. But dont go shooting your mouth off on how you think putting a kid in a simulator for hours a day stripping him of a childhood is gonna make him a better mechwarrior. All ya did was take away his childhood. And they call me cold.

It's your business on how you decide to run things, but remember, we're ALL lookin to get paid.

((Really nice responce, except for the bondsman mention and the clan-dialect. Wolfs Dragoons are suppost to be undercover, and trying to blend in. I think the boasting and trying to bring the clan way of life in this time frame may be a bit much. But still nice responce :huh: ))

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:25 AM

View PostMacabreDerek, on 01 April 2012 - 12:13 AM, said:


((Really nice responce, except for the bondsman mention and the clan-dialect. Wolfs Dragoons are suppost to be undercover, and trying to blend in. I think the boasting and trying to bring the clan way of life in this time frame may be a bit much. But still nice responce ^_^ ))


Thanks Derek,

All of what I wrote was all intentional.

In the current time frame, no one would bat an eye at my few dialect issues. The inner sphere is a large place, and there are lots of dialects and languages in use. As no one knows who/what the clans are, I figured it would be fun to add a couple slips of the tongue in there. The Devil Dogs are purists, crusaders, and the last batch to be dispatched to the inner sphere, and possibly too radical to even fit with the Wolf's Dragoons. And they are warriors first, and aweful spies. :) :huh:

And I enjoyed reading your post. I just discovered the fan fiction section tonight, and I'm finding it a trip!

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:33 AM

View PostPeiper, on 01 April 2012 - 12:25 AM, said:


Thanks Derek,

All of what I wrote was all intentional.

In the current time frame, no one would bat an eye at my few dialect issues. The inner sphere is a large place, and there are lots of dialects and languages in use. As no one knows who/what the clans are, I figured it would be fun to add a couple slips of the tongue in there. The Devil Dogs are purists, crusaders, and the last batch to be dispatched to the inner sphere, and possibly too radical to even fit with the Wolf's Dragoons. And they are warriors first, and aweful spies. ^_^ :huh:

And I enjoyed reading your post. I just discovered the fan fiction section tonight, and I'm finding it a trip!



((Glad you enjoyed it. I figured I play a nameless mechwarrior merc, and try to give the topic a spin from a real hard-@$$ POS. He's been a blast to play, trivializing and bashing comments and trying to make everyone out to be as much of a scumbag as he is. It's been fun, especially with Wolf's Dragoons being so 'honourable', as a merc, I figured it should call things into question, and I think some of the points are valid and something each new Wolf's Dragoon's recruits need to look in themselves to awnser. If you want to keep going, go ahead and respond, I am really starting to like this character. Hell, I think it would be halarious to find out he's good enough to be taken as a bondsman, even if he's old, and suddenly trying to follow the ways of the clans. It would make for some great comedy of errors.))

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 01:52 AM

If you do get taken as bondsman, MacabreDerek, I'll name you horse! Wait, that's taken. How about Donkey!?

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:25 PM

One thing I can say about the Wolf's Dragoons... Awfully good fighters...

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 02:03 PM

Sounds to me like these trumped-up stories are intended to cover up the lack of skill of various pilots.

Put me on the field with Grinner and we'll show these Dragoon's a real fight.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:14 PM

Oh, I'll show you a real fight alright, I'll take you and what ever back up you bring.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:45 PM

I bet you a hundred C's the Dragoons came about when ComStar found some sort of cache on Novo Franklin and sent their pet soldiers to equip themselves and act like Mercenaries to blend in. It's a friggin' spy op.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 06 April 2012 - 09:46 PM.


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Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:42 AM

And we hate Comstar's guts, like that makes sense, NEXT.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:45 PM

[[Switches to Cornelius Hollister]]

Personally, I think they're amusing.





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