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[Verkhne]

So with new tech and weapons how are these two relatively hardpoint starved mechs comparing? The Madcat 2 has better speed and higher hardpoints, do these overcome the tanky quirks of the Highlander 2C? The Highlander can obviously pack bigger weapons with smaller engine cap but space may be an issue,( massaging laser choices is a clan mech building skill!)

[Dr Hobo]

Highlander was nerfed to mediocrity with the JJ nerf. And the 2C didn't fare any better.

I'd rather get the Mk2.

[Burke IV]

Tryed the highlander II once, it drew fire like no other mech and had a chest so wide it was happy to accept it all.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

That's an easy call, MKII. The ability to mount Dual Gauss is almost always a good sign on Clan assaults.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 21 July 2017 - 06:26 AM.

[C E Dwyer]

Dr Hobo, on 21 July 2017 - 06:06 AM, said:

Highlander was nerfed to mediocrity with the JJ nerf. And the 2C didn't fare any better.

I'd rather get the Mk2.

You've not played either for over a year then.

If your good at spreading damage the HGN 2c is a possible, if you don't demand optimum hard points.

If not, your certainly better of with the Mk2 as it's a shape best waggled with and not full twisting, because of it's profile, though it is the best yet of it's type because the arms are so big.

[Appuagab]

HGNIIC is garbage. He's huge, he's slow, he can't benefit from jumpjets because hoverjets, his arm hardpoints are so low that you might as well forget about them. The only use I find for this mech is 4 lurms 15/20 (can't remember which ones exactly) + UAC10 as backup. With that build he turns into very decent braindead one-button afk C-bills'n'PSR farming tool.

[DGTLDaemon]

Mad Cat MkII has a lot more versatility. The only really good Highlander IIC variant is HGN-IIC-C which allows you to run 2xUAC10+2xLPL+(optionally)1xERML (the champion build) or 2xUAC10+2xERPPC (the build I actually prefer). Mad Cat MkII gives you a wide range of options, from Gauss/PPC snipers to dakka boats to LBX40+SRM shotguns. And the higher engine cap helps, too, although MkII has really poor accel/decel/torso twist compared to Highlander IIC.

[Dark Wooki33 IIC]

[Dr Hobo]

Cathy, on 21 July 2017 - 06:26 AM, said:

You've not played either for over a year then.

If your good at spreading damage the HGN 2c is a possible, if you don't demand optimum hard points.

If not, your certainly better of with the Mk2 as it's a shape best waggled with and not full twisting, because of it's profile, though it is the best yet of it's type because the arms are so big.

I haven't owned a Highlander since...shoot...when Heavy Metal was a thing? So..like..3 years?

[Snazzy Dragon]

While we're at it, vindicator or hunchback IIC?

/s

[Revis Volek]

HGN is not a great robot.

Low engine cap, not many builds, too few hardpoints and too much tonnage and not great hardpoint placement either.

I'd say Fat Cat wins in all of these categories and is a much better mech over the Lowlander. Maybe no in engine cap but everything its hands down just better.

[SilentWolff]

Mk II by a country mile. Isn't even close.

[SilentWolff]

Snazzy Dragon, on 21 July 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

While we're at it, vindicator or hunchback IIC?

/s

Again, an easy choice, hunchback IIC.

Edited by SilentWolff, 21 July 2017 - 01:05 PM.

[chucklesMuch]

Snazzy Dragon, on 21 July 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

While we're at it, vindicator or hunchback IIC?

/s

Lol

[Gas Guzzler]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 21 July 2017 - 06:25 AM, said:

That's an easy call, MKII. The ability to mount Dual Gauss is almost always a good sign on Clan assaults.

With that light gauss thread in mind, I would like to point out that it can mount a healthy amount of energy to go with its dual gauss which is what makes it good.

The HGN-IIC hero can mount Dual gauss, but a single energy hardpoint accompanying it makes it infinitely inferior to the Mad Cat Mk. II.

[chucklesMuch]

Verkhne, on 21 July 2017 - 06:02 AM, said:

So with new tech and weapons how are these two relatively hardpoint starved mechs comparing? The Madcat 2 has better speed and higher hardpoints, do these overcome the tanky quirks of the Highlander 2C? The Highlander can obviously pack bigger weapons with smaller engine cap but space may be an issue,( massaging laser choices is a clan mech building skill!)

The mc mkii is a very good mech, with lots of well placed weapon mounts and a variety of effective build options.

My favorites so far are; dual guass & 4×hml stock on the 1 (I think) and dual uac10, 6xmpl on the hero. But I haven't really had much time playing it; 4xsrm6 + 2x lbx20 will be fun - scorch build with more 5 tons available.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Gas Guzzler, on 21 July 2017 - 01:27 PM, said:

With that light gauss thread in mind, I would like to point out that it can mount a healthy amount of energy to go with its dual gauss which is what makes it good.

The HGN-IIC hero can mount Dual gauss, but a single energy hardpoint accompanying it makes it infinitely inferior to the Mad Cat Mk. II.

This is true, I should've added that it has enough energy hardpoints to go with the Dual Gauss to be solid. Dual Gauss alone is not a selling point.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 21 July 2017 - 02:20 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 21 July 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

This is true, I should've added that it has enough energy hardpoints to go with the Dual Gauss to be solid. Dual Gauss alone is not a selling point.

Gotta be careful, someone might jump on this and say "SEEEEEE cGauss is god tier you admitted it!"

[Scar Glamour]

Highlander IIc is a serviceable mech. However I struggle to think of any build (other than a brawler and, maybe, a missile hybrid) which would be superior to a similar build you can get with Cat Mk2. Both chassis have plenty of hardpoints to work with, and Mk2's hardpoints are higher.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Was the Highlander IIC's hit boxes ever fixed? I never was a fan of it's low hard points when I tried out the trial version of the mech.