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[Gas Guzzler]

Anything that mounts a couple AC5s with a pair of HPPCs is where I got good results.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 21 July 2017 - 10:12 PM.

[Kaptain]

I am running 2 of them on an Awesome with 2SNPPCs in the arm
I have 2 of them in a K2 catapult and its just ok. (probably better in jester)
I have 2 of them in a warhammer along with 2 LPPCs.
and I have 2 of them in a thunderbolt with 4ml as backup.

So far I like the thunderbolt best of all.

The key is to play it at some range, usually on the edge of your team flanking or from 2nd line. Its certainly helps teach shot discipline as they do run hot.

Edited by Kaptain, 21 July 2017 - 10:25 PM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

I'm running 2 HPPC on my Dragon-1C in the torso. Its rather effective at dealing its 30 points of damage to a spot you pick and doesn't overheat too bad since I have a 280LFE and crammed the rest of the mech full of heatsinks.

On heavies I just recommend having 2 HPPC high mounted and pretty much nothing else, just like the dual ERPPC Summoner, Hunchback, or whatever.

Also run 2 HPPC on the Awesome 8Q paired up with 5 MPL, the massive heat gen quirks and a full set of heatgen nodes from the skill tree make it not hot.


If you're having trouble hitting the CT each time just work on your aim a bit in the shooting range in the academy or just keep up practicing in quick play.

[Monkey Lover]

It has to be on rare mechs where there is only 1 energy hard point in an area. If not people would have used normal ppcs

Maybe like the k2 up in the ears where it only has 1e on both sides.

[LordNothing]

they run nice on my anihilator (energy varient that comes with the std pack), just running those and a bunch of er mediums. works great.

[Fox With A Shotgun]

Urbanmech and Raven 2X work well with it. Its pretty much a replacement AC15.

[Dr Hobo]

I use them on the Reaver roughneck. Twin Heavy PPCs mrm 10 ERmlas and lmgs for that gloriously tasty critseeking.

Works pretty good and isn't as hot as my quad erppc build.

[chucklesMuch]

I had fun the other night putting one on a urban mech.

[kapusta11]

Tried two on Griffin 2N with ECM, worked pretty well. Now thinking about buying Sparky hero. Might be a waste if PGI decide to nerf HPPCs.

[Aleski]

kapusta11, on 22 July 2017 - 01:09 AM, said:

Tried two on Griffin 2N with ECM, worked pretty well. Now thinking about buying Sparky hero. Might be a waste if PGI decide to nerf HPPCs.

Sparky is one of the best medium mech Hero. You will not regret it, even if they nerf the HPPC. I run mine with XL350 and 6xMPL. It's a beast.

For the HPPC, i have put one on my old Dragon Slayer : XL340 + Gauss + HPPC in the arms and twin Large Lazors in the torso. It works pretty well with a 30 pinpoint damages at long-medium range plus the two lazors.

[Kalleballe]

Blackjack 3. 2hppc, xl225, 13 dhs, light ferro, 2 jj and strip 1 arm.

[Lucian Nostra]

Promessa, on 21 July 2017 - 10:02 PM, said:

I put a couple on a grasshopper 5P (with er smalls to bump them up) and the mech performs... Terribly. I could easily do a lot more with a Nova, hunchback, or huntsman and 2 erppc's. Even If I subtract splash damage or whatever (not that splash damage isn't useful damage, I feel like I'm a pretty good shot, but I'm not hitting CT every time on every target, a lot of splash is going CT, anyway)

30 pinpoint isn't really that strong when the average ct armor is like 100 and you're not hitting it every time. Three shots in a row overheats you, and the grasshopper is a giant target that lost it's side torso structure. Am I getting something wrong? I wanna try new stuff out.

I don't follow your assumption of since your not doing well with hppcs you'd be doing better with cppcs. For every time you connect with twin hppcs you'd have to connect with cppcs than miss twice and get splash on that location to break even. Each time you actually do connect your dealing 50% more valuable damage to that location.

I just don't see how if your struggling with a 30 ppfld dmg weapon combo how a 20+5+5 at the same heat costs is gonna give you such better returns

Edited by Lucian Nostra, 22 July 2017 - 03:49 AM.

[oldradagast]

Awesome 8Q, LF 300, DHS, 2 Heavy PPC's, 3 medium pulse lasers (to handle lights and close-in targets), full armor.

Works rather well for me.

[Prof RJ Gumby]

Trebuchet 7K
Loved this underdog mech before skills with 2xPPC and 1xAC5, it performed decently if utilised properly (the trick was to hill poke and dps against alpha builds and alpha against dps builds). After skill tree and related dps nerf that build and the whole mech became useless until now. Now it can properly utilise it's whooping 2 energy mounts (both pretty high and in torsos btw. the problem was always that theres 2 and only 2). The true benefit of this little thing lies in the fact that both 7K's shield arms are so big, you can shoot and twist like there's no tommorow.. Now, with HPPCs, you finally have something decent enough to alpha with.

[MadHornet]

Prof RJ Gumby, on 22 July 2017 - 05:07 AM, said:

Trebuchet 7K
Loved this underdog mech before skills with 2xPPC and 1xAC5, it performed decently if utilised properly (the trick was to hill poke and dps against alpha builds and alpha against dps builds). After skill tree and related dps nerf that build and the whole mech became useless until now. Now it can properly utilise it's whooping 2 energy mounts (both pretty high and in torsos btw. the problem was always that theres 2 and only 2). The true benefit of this little thing lies in the fact that both 7K's shield arms are so big, you can shoot and twist like there's no tommorow.. Now, with HPPCs, you finally have something decent enough to alpha with.

I do the same with the 7K. The only issue is it has inadequate torso twist range to properly defend itself while trying to maintain distance, making fleeing from approaching enemies a one-sided battle. Other than that, the high mounted hardpoints, pitch range, armor bonuses, and shield arms can make up for that fault. It's very tanky.

[o0m9]

Running an AWS with an H-PPC in each torso and two LPLs in the arm. Was running two snubs, but the LPLs are more heat efficient and allow me to alpha strike twice before having to cool off (and cooling in this thing comes at a premium. With an LFE 300 there's hardly enough slots to fit the required DHS), plus being less of a hassle to land on quick targets. This has probably usurped my 4 PPC build as my favored for the chassis.

Edited by o0m9, 22 July 2017 - 05:56 AM.

[Y E O N N E]

I'm only using a pair of HPPC on a CPLT-K2, which is a fairly self-explanatory loadout and works decently enough.

More often, though, I am combining it with other PPCs.

On my BJ-3, I combine it with an LPPC and use the extra ton for heatsinks and the biggest engine, so I have 15x DHS and some extremely useful backup lasers for knife work.

On my RFL-5D, I do something similar only, there, I combine it with a standard PPC.

I intend to do a similar HPPC+PPC build on my Shadowhawk. 25 is less than 30, but the increased heat management capabilities seem like a worthwhile tradeoff and 25 is still more than 20. It's as much as the old pop-tart meta Shadowhawk was doing, but much more efficient.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Yeonne Greene, on 22 July 2017 - 06:00 AM, said:

I'm only using a pair of HPPC on a CPLT-K2, which is a fairly self-explanatory loadout and works decently enough.

More often, though, I am combining it with other PPCs.

On my BJ-3, I combine it with an LPPC and use the extra ton for heatsinks and the biggest engine, so I have 15x DHS and some extremely useful backup lasers for knife work.

On my RFL-5D, I do something similar only, there, I combine it with a standard PPC.

I intend to do a similar HPPC+PPC build on my Shadowhawk. 25 is less than 30, but the increased heat management capabilities seem like a worthwhile tradeoff and 25 is still more than 20. It's as much as the old pop-tart meta Shadowhawk was doing, but much more efficient.

Why not just 2 HPPC? Just curious.

Seems cool running enough.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4842e1199be4d98

Running XL since poptarting build with all weapons in one side and I'd rather have extra damage or cooling throughout my life than having a chance that I end up alive with my gun side gone.

[Angel of Annihilation]

I have them on one of my Warhammers (due to quirks which improve them alot) and as of last night on my Loyalty Atlas (thanks to some random guy running a loyalty Atlas that I spectated on). Other than that, they generally seem too heavy and too hot for most other builds especially with the 90m dead zone.

Dakota1000, on 22 July 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:

Why not just 2 HPPC? Just curious.

Seems cool running enough.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4842e1199be4d98

Running XL since poptarting build with all weapons in one side and I'd rather have extra damage or cooling throughout my life than having a chance that I end up alive with my gun side gone.

That 90m dead zone. I personally don't like being defenseless at any point in the game.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Viktor Drake, on 22 July 2017 - 07:08 AM, said:

That 90m dead zone. I personally don't like being defenseless at any point in the game.

I was mostly asking yeonne, he said he was just bringing a PPC plus an HPPC, so there'd still be a deadzone, hes just putting in 5 less damage per strike with a bit less heat.