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[Jackal Noble]

I know they were in previous games, would X-Pulse lasers be a worthy addition to add to the Inner Sphere's weapon aresenal?
Although the current timeline (3057ish?) I'm not even sure if they are in prototype stage.
Perfect way to introduce Solaris and the Daedalus


http://www.sarna.net...e_X-Pulse_Laser

well it does say year available 3057.
wonder what kind of heat cost it would have for the extended range over the large pulse laser.

[FupDup]

They'd need pretty hefty buffing from their base stats, as they usually payed way too much heat for only the range of STD lasers.

In MWO's current environment, trying to find a role for them would be difficult without either stepping on the toes of other IS lasers or having the X-Wubs be outclassed.

[Zergling]

3057 is the experimental date of introduction, not their mass production date of introduction.

Gimme a minute to dig through some TROs to find their mass production DoI.

Edited by Zergling, 31 July 2017 - 10:08 PM.

[Jackal Noble]

FupDup, on 31 July 2017 - 10:07 PM, said:

They'd need pretty hefty buffing from their base stats, as they usually payed way too much heat for only the range of STD lasers.

In MWO's current environment, trying to find a role for them would be difficult without either stepping on the toes of other IS lasers or having the X-Wubs be outclassed.

so 450 meter range at 11 damage and 11 heat with a burntime of 0.67 seconds?

[FupDup]

JackalBeast, on 31 July 2017 - 10:10 PM, said:

so 450 meter range at 11 damage and 11 heat with a burntime of 0.67 seconds?

That would be atrociously bad.

[Jackal Noble]

11 damage 10 heat 0.8 second burn 450 m?

[Zergling]

Zergling, on 31 July 2017 - 10:08 PM, said:

3057 is the experimental date of introduction, not their mass production date of introduction.

Gimme a minute to dig through some TROs to find their mass production DoI.

From TRO: Prototypes, X-Pulse Lasers became 'Advanced rules' with the 3078 date, which represents the date when they become mass produced standard equipment.

3078 is Jihad era, over 10 years past the end of the Civil War era.

[WrathOfDeadguy]

IMO we have enough new tech for now. Let the balance for the current crop of shiny toys settle, then worry about adding the rest of the goodies.

[Y E O N N E]

JackalBeast, on 31 July 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

11 damage 10 heat 0.8 second burn 450 m?

10% of the skill tree gets you to 401 m. A TC2 gets you to 420 m. If you want to run hot with longer ranged LPL, just sacrifice your DHS for a TC.

You're gonna need something way more than a mere 90 m bump in range; try 540 meters.

[Zergling]

X-Large Pulse had 50% greater range than regular Large Pulse in TT, so if it received the same range bump over the regular Large Pulse in MWO, it'd have 547.5 meter range.

[Gas Guzzler]

JackalBeast, on 31 July 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

11 damage 10 heat 0.8 second burn 450 m?

More like 10 damage (like the std LPL), 8.25 heat, 0.67 or 0.7? Whatever the LPL is, and 450 m range.

Slightly longer cooldown than std LPL. Honestly even that is pretty bad, too hot, the extra range is not worth the heat in this case.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 31 July 2017 - 10:23 PM.

[Jackal Noble]

I knew I had that range miffed.

[BTGbullseye]

"By 3075, the technology had not yet been made widely available but had started to hit the markets by 3078."
It's right there in the first paragraph of the linked Sarna page... How did the OP miss it?

Concerning their range: "Large X-Pulse Lasers are the biggest and deadliest of the X-Pulse Lasers and though they build massive amounts of extra heat, they boast the same range as a standard Large Laser."

Edited by BTGbullseye, 31 July 2017 - 10:29 PM.

[Jackal Noble]

Standard LPL heat is 7.25 with an optimal range of 365 and max of 730. Burntime duration is .67 seconds and cooldown is 3.00 seconds

Heat would have to be a little more than 1 (9 heat?) over for that extra 175 meter range. That or increase both the burntime duration(which should stay the same) or the cooldown.

BTGbullseye, on 31 July 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

"[color=#000000]By [/color]3075[color=#000000], the technology had not yet been made widely available but had started to hit the markets by [/color]3078[color=#000000]."[/color]
[color=#000000]it?It's right there in the first paragraph of the linked Sarna page... How did the OP miss it?[/color]

sorry about the quoting mess you have there. I didn't miss that, but if you look at the page for the Large X-Pulse laser it says year available is 3057. Besides, if you read my OP you would see that the thread is just about if the timeline was advanced or would need to be, and if these weapons could fit in game. Also something something Solaris and the Daedalus mech. pan up and reread. k thanks bye.

Edited by JackalBeast, 31 July 2017 - 10:30 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

JackalBeast, on 31 July 2017 - 10:29 PM, said:

Heat would have to be a little more than 1 (9 heat?) over for that extra 175 meter range. That or increase both the burntime duration(which should stay the same) or the cooldown.

Why? The ER LL is one heat more than the STD LL. Raise cooldown to 3.5 or something.

[Jackal Noble]

damage 10
8.5 heat
3.5 second cooldown.
.67 second duration
optimal range 540 meters
max range of 900 meters

Even with those stats it would it would be pretty hardcore

Edited by JackalBeast, 31 July 2017 - 10:39 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

JackalBeast, on 31 July 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

damage 10
8.5 heat
3.5 second cooldown.
.67 second duration
optimal range 540 meters
max range of 900 meters

Even with those stats it would it would be pretty hardcore

I'm not sure I'd bother with it for full on laser vomit. Only for pairing with Gauss. Triple X-Pulse laser and a Gauss on a HGN-732B wouldn't be too bad.

[Jackal Noble]

Gas Guzzler, on 31 July 2017 - 10:43 PM, said:

I'm not sure I'd bother with it for full on laser vomit. Only for pairing with Gauss. Triple X-Pulse laser and a Gauss on a HGN-732B wouldn't be too bad.

Stalker Deathray?

[Gas Guzzler]

JackalBeast, on 31 July 2017 - 10:46 PM, said:

Stalker Deathray?

Nah, the only acceptable build on a Misery is AC20/UAC20 and 2 Heavy PPCs. All others are posers.

[Ryllen Kriel]

MWO would become X-rated with these lasers. It would decrease the fan base!