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#101 Lupis Volk

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 11:58 PM

View PostAppogee, on 08 August 2017 - 11:56 PM, said:

LOL. Those who want their Hero Mechs to have a competitive advantage over free Mechs are the "baddies".


If you want build diversity, throw away your Clanner crutches and play IS every now and then.

Sorry but you lot are still baddies. It takes a special kind of toxic scum to want to ruin paying peoples fun just out of spite.

Been IS since Steam launch, left IS because of people like you. How about instead of getting the Clans nerfed out of spite you git gud and abuse your over quirked mechs.

Edited by Lupis Volk, 09 August 2017 - 12:02 AM.


#102 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:08 AM

Yeah, no. Adding weapons where no other variant can have weapons and only for the Hero? Get stuffed. Think I'm toxic scum because PGI rethought their poor business practices? Good for you, have a cookie.

#103 Appogee

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:12 AM

View PostLupis Volk, on 08 August 2017 - 11:58 PM, said:

Sorry but you lot are still baddies. It takes a special kind of toxic scum to want to ruin paying peoples fun just out of spite.

What "spite"...? I'm trying to save the game from people who want to create paywalled crutches and make an imbalanced playing field that undermines the game.


View PostLupis Volk, on 08 August 2017 - 11:58 PM, said:

Been IS since Steam launch, left IS because of people like you. How about instead of getting the Clans nerfed out of spite you git gud and abuse your over quirked mechs.

"People like me"... who play both sides, who don't support P2W Mechs for either faction...?

I don't want P2W Mechs, ammo, armor or anything in this game, because it's bad for everyone. Even for the "baddies" who really really really want a crutch and abuse those of us who argue for a level playing field.

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View PostLupis Volk, on 08 August 2017 - 11:58 PM, said:

How about instead of getting the Clans nerfed out of spite you git gud and abuse your over quirked mechs.

Word of advice... Tier 2 pilots who have average match scores of 175 and 245 over the last two seasons probably shouldn't be lecturing others about 'gitting gud'.

Edited by Appogee, 09 August 2017 - 12:34 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:40 AM

View PostLupis Volk, on 08 August 2017 - 11:50 PM, said:

People argued that with the Gargoyle, Executioner, Ice Ferret and Shadow Cat and they still got nerfed/reworked for reasons. Heck the heroes that got reworked weren't even the best out of the bunch. They just happened to offer build diversity and that triggered said toxic IS element into crying and demanded them to be nerfed, which they promptly got.



You wanna cry bout that talk to the Founders when Heros first came out.

It took ages for Founders mechs to equal Heros in terms of Cbill earning. Especially when at the time,the Heros were flat out upgrades. The Hunchback 4GF was inferior to the Centurion(was faster,and had better layout and less likely to constantly lose the boom stick).

Those mechs you listed,only have handful of decent builds. Especially the IFR and SC. Mr Gargles I never see and you never see EXE anymore either. The only build I seen lately on the SC is the MG SRM build,or Heavy lasers,or ppcs. But with the new tech,you maaaay see them. Even the Summoner was bad too(and I love the Summoner)

Why? They're just bad designs for MWO. Everything the SC does,a Huntsman or Linebacker does better. Everything an EXE does,or Mr Gargles,the Warhawk,Direwhale,Pedobear,Super Nova and Madcat Mk2 does better. Why do laser puke,when the Direwhale does it better? Why do PPC shooting when the Warhawk does it the best. Why bring dakka when the Mk2 and Pedo do it so well? Why do missile boating when the Super Nova is really good at it?

And yes,even as a Clan player,i can agree the Timberwolf was a weeee bit too stronk.But I don't think ti should have been hit as hard as it was.


I play both sides of the fence.

I also think PGI goes way too far in terms of buffs and nerfs. Imagine prenerf Grid Iron quirks today with a light gauss and the rapid fire perks.

#105 Appogee

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 01:52 AM

View PostDr Hobo, on 09 August 2017 - 12:40 AM, said:

I also think PGI goes way too far in terms of buffs and nerfs. Imagine prenerf Grid Iron quirks today with a light gauss and the rapid fire perks.

I think in the case of Grid Iron it was a case of encouraging everyone to buy one, then nerfing it once most people did.

But yes, overall, the nerfs and buffs are crazy wide swings. And ironically, also much too slow to address glaring issues (eg Kodiak 3, Night Gyr, overbuffed IS ERL ranges, etc).

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 04:51 AM

AS7-D-DC, Atlas with insane structure quirks and ECM...P2W!!!
Mad Dog, Omnimech!, no ECM or JJ but so many missiles! P2W!!!
Huntsman, because...Huntsman!...P2W!!!
Bushwacker, doesn't die...P2W!!!
Locust, fastest mech, can't hit it...P2W!!!

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I mean, really?





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