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#41 Kmieciu

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 10:34 PM

View PostChris Lowrey, on 22 August 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:


I have no idea, I've only been on the project for 9 months, and even if I could track down who originally implemented the skills under the older system, there is no guarantee that they are with the company anymore to where I could ask why.

I can't control what was done 5 years ago during beta. I can only affect what we are doing now, and moving forward.

Good job Chris!
Regardless of what the original idea for skill implementation was, the description for Heat Containment said "Increases maximum heat threshold by 10%". Heat sinks increase the heat threshold, therefore HC skill should affect all the heat sinks.

On a side note, heat containment has always been less important than cool run. Cool run benefits your throughout the whole match. And once you reach the heat cap and start to ride it, it is pretty much meaningless if it's @50 or 54,5 or 57,5 heat.

Edited by Kmieciu, 22 August 2017 - 10:48 PM.


#42 Black Ivan

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 10:53 PM

Thanks a lot. perhaps now it is time for a buff to ballistics

#43 Stonefalcon

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:14 AM

Wait a second guys. Does this mean that PGI actually read these forums and not operate entirely out of twitter?

#44 Lily from animove

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:23 AM

So we get even more heattreshold now to throw damage around, WOW this honestly can't be good. Because spamming coolshots and arties wasn't already enough.

#45 FupDup

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 03:10 AM

View PostLily from animove, on 23 August 2017 - 12:23 AM, said:

So we get even more heattreshold now to throw damage around, WOW this honestly can't be good. Because spamming coolshots and arties wasn't already enough.

The people spamming coolshots are arties are going to have to give up some part of their skill tree in order to get that higher threshold.

#46 Kiiyor

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 03:43 AM

View PostDAYLEET, on 22 August 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

and you know... this could go on if we're not going to be @ssholes about it.


I think we've proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that we're not equipped to handle that responsibility.


#47 Lily from animove

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 03:49 AM

View PostFupDup, on 23 August 2017 - 03:10 AM, said:

The people spamming coolshots are arties are going to have to give up some part of their skill tree in order to get that higher threshold.



wow, because thats SOOO MUCH to sacrifice within this HUGE tree, LOL.

#48 STEF_

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 03:58 AM

View PostPjwned, on 22 August 2017 - 10:14 PM, said:




How would you screw it up handle it then? Just leave it as is is now?

That's a rhetorical suggestion by the way, because that's so immensely dumb.



It generates less heat but it also fires more often, so its heat per second is not really so much less than LPL.

It still helps ballistics about as much, stop being a baby.


you still aren't aware that laser is easy mode point and click, while ballistic requires aiming skills.
The baby is you, thinking to buff laser even more, (prolly because a baby cannot avoid overheating), without giving some buff to the other weapons.
Pgi fix buffs energy weapon? then it wpuld be logic to buff even ballistic.... but non for a baby like you (babies don't use logic)

#49 Appogee

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 04:12 AM

View PostStonefalcon, on 23 August 2017 - 12:14 AM, said:

Wait a second guys. Does this mean that PGI actually read these forums and not operate entirely out of twitter?

Nah. It was mentioned on Reddit. (They do read Reddit.)

I've been taking almost the full Ops tree on almost every Mech. Now I find that the literally thousands of Skill Points I spent on Heat Containment haven't been working...?

Edited by Appogee, 23 August 2017 - 04:13 AM.


#50 Pjwned

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:34 AM

View PostStefka Kerensky, on 23 August 2017 - 03:58 AM, said:


you still aren't aware that laser is easy mode point and click, while ballistic requires aiming skills.
The baby is you, thinking to buff laser even more, (prolly because a baby cannot avoid overheating), without giving some buff to the other weapons.
Pgi fix buffs energy weapon? then it wpuld be logic to buff even ballistic.... but non for a baby like you (babies don't use logic)


You didn't answer me at all or clearly even read anything I said.

Impressive how useless that response was.

#51 STEF_

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:36 AM

View PostPjwned, on 23 August 2017 - 05:34 AM, said:


You didn't answer me at all or clearly even read anything I said.

Impressive how useless that response was.

impressive your imagination is near zero, if you need me to answer that.

do I really need how to buff something? like cooldown, less spread?

GG, dude.... you are one of the reason why this place is called the brown sea

#52 Pjwned

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 06:07 AM

View PostStefka Kerensky, on 23 August 2017 - 05:36 AM, said:

impressive your imagination is near zero, if you need me to answer that.

do I really need how to buff something? like cooldown, less spread?

GG, dude.... you are one of the reason why this place is called the brown sea


So you would (after deciphering your illegible whining) buff ballistics because they "didn't get any" even though they obviously did get buffs too with the same change, which you plainly ignore.

Very convincing.

#53 HGAK47

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 06:53 AM

So basically those ops skills is it will be getting a buff in essence?

Noiceeeeeeeeeeeee im always too hot Posted Image

#54 MadRover

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:36 PM

I think I just choked a bit. Didn't know there was an issue with heat containment. Now can we have a solution for the horrendous matchmaker?

#55 Snowbluff

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:54 PM

Thanks, Chris!

#56 FupDup

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 06:55 PM

View PostLily from animove, on 23 August 2017 - 03:49 AM, said:

wow, because thats SOOO MUCH to sacrifice within this HUGE tree, LOL.

It's 20 points if you want to max out Heat Containment and Cool Run.

#57 Lily from animove

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:14 PM

View PostFupDup, on 23 August 2017 - 06:55 PM, said:

It's 20 points if you want to max out Heat Containment and Cool Run.


Most people max out heat cool run anyways so the additional for heatcontainmenr (which many have skilled as well) isn't much bigger, but the impact of the fix will be bigger.

#58 Johnny Z

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:16 PM

View PostLily from animove, on 23 August 2017 - 12:23 AM, said:

So we get even more heattreshold now to throw damage around, WOW this honestly can't be good. Because spamming coolshots and arties wasn't already enough.


My thoughts exactly.

#59 Racerxintegra2k

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 02:22 AM

I don't know what everyone is getting worked up over. They will fix the problem to play as intended. The community will reorganized their skill nodes to match. A couple months later they will balance and nerf heat again. The community will respec to compensate. So is the cycle.

#60 Lily from animove

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 05:36 AM

View PostRacerxintegra2k, on 24 August 2017 - 02:22 AM, said:

I don't know what everyone is getting worked up over. They will fix the problem to play as intended. The community will reorganized their skill nodes to match. A couple months later they will balance and nerf heat again. The community will respec to compensate. So is the cycle.


except that respeccing isn't free and therefore an issues with "changes" in regards of devalueating the prior choices. Also when it is to be seen that this change also makes things too much, why not instantly nerf heat?





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