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[JC Daxion]

Title kinda says it all. I have FRAPs, but that is for movies/screenies, which is nicem but if i use the movie part for just sound it is a giant file and then iid have to remove the sound some how.

I looked for some free programs, but most i found where free to try, which is ok, But i really don't wanna try 20 progs So i figured someone out there would know of a really good sound recording program that i can edit sound files, and make game captures.. Or even a nice low cost one. I am not against paying for software i'm gonna use.

I gotta little project i wanna try with some video/sound mech machma and i need a dedicated sound recorder.. Something that can do waves and MP3's would be perfect, but multiple tracks is sorta a must.

PS a good video editor is another thing i'd like to grab, so thoughts on this would be great as well. Something i can edit vids, change format, and layer sound.

Basically i wanna try my hand at some little mech shorts. Can anyone point me in the right direction for the software i need?

thanks a bunch!

Edited by JC Daxion, 27 August 2017 - 05:57 AM.

[Smites]

First. Replace FRAPS with something like Dxtory, which is paid for but can provide good lossless video with Ut Video Codec or MagicYUV OR get OBS Multiplatform.

Second. Audacity is a free sound editor.

Third. There are too many free and paid-for video editors, and some of them I can't lawfully recommend. Go search for them and pick what you feel is best.

Fourth. Good luck! Video making can be a hard but fun process!

[JC Daxion]

Cool, thanks..

I do have the paid version of Fraps though, and it seems to work pretty well.

I grabbed audacity, i have heard of that before, it seams to be exactly what i need.. Just need to figure out how to add the MP3 Export plug in and play around with it a bit. So thanks!


As for the editor, im kinda at a loss, i never used one before, and i have a lot of other vids i wanna edit. I have tons of concert/band footage from about 15 years ago i grabbed on my Hi-8, along with a crap load of MX Racing vids on VHS from the late 80's-early 90's.. But a file is a file, should edit the same anyway right? (i say this as i want to get something that would work well for all of it.. Though i think i may need to buy a extra HD for all this, mine only has about 300 gigs free.

Another thing, i just have 8 gigs of ram, is that enough? Or should i see about grabbing another 8 gigs? I don't recall off hand what i have, Its DDR3, corsair, but id have to look it up to match it.

I guess i'll have to do some searching about what works and is easy to use.

[Smites]

JC Daxion, on 27 August 2017 - 07:55 AM, said:

Cool, thanks..

I do have the paid version of Fraps though, and it seems to work pretty well.

I grabbed audacity, i have heard of that before, it seams to be exactly what i need.. Just need to figure out how to add the MP3 Export plug in and play around with it a bit. So thanks!


As for the editor, im kinda at a loss, i never used one before, and i have a lot of other vids i wanna edit. I have tons of concert/band footage from about 15 years ago i grabbed on my Hi-8, along with a crap load of MX Racing vids on VHS from the late 80's-early 90's.. But a file is a file, should edit the same anyway right? (i say this as i want to get something that would work well for all of it.. Though i think i may need to buy a extra HD for all this, mine only has about 300 gigs free.

Another thing, i just have 8 gigs of ram, is that enough? Or should i see about grabbing another 8 gigs? I don't recall off hand what i have, Its DDR3, corsair, but id have to look it up to match it.

I guess i'll have to do some searching about what works and is easy to use.

Old VHS stuff may require a specific editor program. I can't answer that for you because I don't deal with that stuff but we'll see. If you can afford it, maybe try Premiere Pro. If you can't there are free or trial versions out there. 8 gigs of ram is enough, yeah. It may take longer than with 16 or 32 but I doubt you'll notice a significant difference. 16 gigs helps more with gaming than it does rendering, so you could get smoother gameplay but that's more dependent on your GPU.

[Appogee]

Audacity for the sound.

http://forum.audacit...hp?f=46&t=89564

Any movie editor - including the one bundled with Windows - will be able to edit captured movie files. Cyberlink PowerDirector Pro is probably the best affordable, stable consumer editor if you want to go up a level.

Your only challenge is connecting the Hi-8 and VHS to your computer. That depends on what outputs they have, and what inputs your PC's video card has. There are relatively inexpensive dongles that enable you to connect older VCR equipment via USB, or even some of the later video card standards.

8Gb of RAM is enough. Sounds like you will need a couple of Gb of disk space to save the captured video on.

Edited by Appogee, 27 August 2017 - 08:36 AM.

[JC Daxion]

Smites, on 27 August 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

Old VHS stuff may require a specific editor program. I can't answer that for you because I don't deal with that stuff but we'll see. If you can afford it, maybe try Premiere Pro. If you can't there are free or trial versions out there. 8 gigs of ram is enough, yeah. It may take longer than with 16 or 32 but I doubt you'll notice a significant difference. 16 gigs helps more with gaming than it does rendering, so you could get smoother gameplay but that's more dependent on your GPU.

Well i was just going to use my VCR/DVR recorder to copy to DVR, then upload then copy the disk onto my drive. I've been converting to Disk anyway, as they will last, old tapes break down. My Hi-8 and i can just plug into my computer and capture it. I'm guessing vid editing software should have a capture option right?

its an old sony high 8. it might have S-vid out or just use the normal out i use to hook up to the tv so i can atleast plug it into my DVR, and then load the disk like the other i would think. I'm looking at the back of my comp now, I don't see a vid in on my card.. though maybe my other one does.


as far as win 10, that has vid editing build in? I didn't see anything like that,, Heck i couldnt even find the old wave editor that win used to have.. maybe they hid it lol


but out side of that, is there a way to overlay audacity into MWO? like how i overlay fraps?

Edited by JC Daxion, 27 August 2017 - 09:04 AM.

[El Bandito]

Smites, on 27 August 2017 - 06:18 AM, said:

First. Replace FRAPS with something like Dxtory, which is paid for but can provide good lossless video with Ut Video Codec or MagicYUV OR get OBS Multiplatform.

I can attest to this. Dxtory is da bomb! However, since I started to use Nvidia, I am currently satisfied with Shadowplay.

[Smites]

JC Daxion, on 27 August 2017 - 08:56 AM, said:

Well i was just going to use my VCR/DVR recorder to copy to DVR, then upload then copy the disk onto my drive. I've been converting to Disk anyway, as they will last, old tapes break down. My Hi-8 and i can just plug into my computer and capture it. I'm guessing vid editing software should have a capture option right?

its an old sony high 8. it might have S-vid out or just use the normal out i use to hook up to the tv so i can atleast plug it into my DVR, and then load the disk like the other i would think. I'm looking at the back of my comp now, I don't see a vid in on my card.. though maybe my other one does.


as far as win 10, that has vid editing build in? I didn't see anything like that,, Heck i couldnt even find the old wave editor that win used to have.. maybe they hid it lol


but out side of that, is there a way to overlay audacity into MWO? like how i overlay fraps?

Define overlay? The trick to using Audacity for audio recording, if Fraps can't or you want your voice separate, is to hit the record button and then launch the game. Cut out the audio you don't need from that point onward.

Dxtory can record multiple audio tracks simultaneously, separate them and edit them in Audacity.

Shadowplay is nice but I don't personally use it much. OBS Studio, IMO, is better and still free - in response to El Bandito.

Also Windows Movie Maker, the editing software, is a separate download. It might not be pre-installed on your computer.

Edited by Smites, 27 August 2017 - 05:01 PM.

[JC Daxion]

El Bandito, on 27 August 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

I can attest to this. Dxtory is da bomb! However, since I started to use Nvidia, I am currently satisfied with Shadowplay.

Hmm is this part of the new nivida experience thing? I just DL'd my drivers, never updated to that thing.

Smites, on 27 August 2017 - 05:01 PM, said:

Define overlay? The trick to using Audacity for audio recording, if Fraps can't or you want your voice separate, is to hit the record button and then launch the game. Cut out the audio you don't need from that point onward.

Dxtory can record multiple audio tracks simultaneously, separate them and edit them in Audacity.

Shadowplay is nice but I don't personally use it much. OBS Studio, IMO, is better and still free - in response to El Bandito.

Also Windows Movie Maker, the editing software, is a separate download. It might not be pre-installed on your computer.

Thanks, i will have to search out windows movie maker, i did a fresh install last summer, and updated to win 10, so it probably is not loaded.



So i did a little digging and found some reviews, and mentioned Corel videostudio. I have corel WP, and really like the software. I know they have a good rep from over the years..

Oddly, the Disk version is 65 bucks, the PC download is 99??? . (the same thing happened with my WP software, i got it almost 10 bucks cheaper by waiting a week for it to come in the mail)

Any thoughts on this piece of software? the price doesn't seam to bad, and the list of options and reviews sounds like it could be what i need. (yes i want to do some other non-game editing as well)

https://www.amazon.c...ideostudio&th=1


Here is one of the reviews i found https://www.pcmag.co...,2330787,00.asp (with my credit about 45)


another called pinnacle, made by corel as well,, (with my credit 55) https://www.amazon.c...dio+20+ultimate

review.. https://www.pcmag.co...,2382573,00.asp

Edited by JC Daxion, 28 August 2017 - 05:05 AM.

[Appogee]

Apparently MS removed Windows Move Maker from Windows 10 and discontinued support for all previous versions.

This is a classic douche move by Microsoft, and demonstrates why cloud subscription model software isn't necessarily better than owning a disk with software on it ... Microsoft have a history of removing functionality from Windows when it suits their commercial purposes.

Here are free alternative video editors: http://www.techradar...ker-alternative

[El Bandito]

JC Daxion, on 28 August 2017 - 04:32 AM, said:

Hmm is this part of the new nivida experience thing? I just DL'd my drivers, never updated to that thing.

Yes, and IMO Shadowplay is worth it.

[Sunstruck]

I like Vegas for video editing, its has pretty much the quality and most features of the professional editing software but doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

[Methanoid]

El Bandito, on 28 August 2017 - 05:45 AM, said:

Yes, and IMO Shadowplay is worth it.

Bandicam is certainly fast and can also use the nvidia video enc just the same as shadowplay, bandi also doesnt slow a persons computer as much as fraps/etc.

for powerful video editing, try Lightworks: https://www.lwks.com/ heres a link showing some free alternatives now MS Movie Maker is defunct: http://www.techradar...ker-alternative

as others mentioned, Audacity is pretty good for sound purposes.

[JC Daxion]

JC Daxion, on 28 August 2017 - 04:32 AM, said:

https://www.amazon.c...dio+20+ultimate

review.. https://www.pcmag.co...,2382573,00.asp

In case anyone cares, i ended up buying this one, and it looks pretty great. Now i just need to figure out how to use it lol

Anyone have any tips on vid editing, or know of some sites that can give me some pointers on some tips/tricks? This software is pretty deep. Man i long for the days, they shipped with Books on how to use.. I hate reading PDF's!

but thanks folks for all the help and getting me going in the right direction.

Edited by JC Daxion, 03 September 2017 - 07:53 AM.

[Pariah Devalis]

El Bandito, on 27 August 2017 - 04:39 PM, said:

I can attest to this. Dxtory is da bomb! However, since I started to use Nvidia, I am currently satisfied with Shadowplay.

Can second Shadow Play. There is zero performance hit when actually playing the game, and you can record things after the fact. The only quality loss I experience is when I upload to youtube. By the time I am done editing things, the videos on my PC are 60 FPS, and sharp as a razor blade. Youtube, however, is a beast I can't seem to solve, when it comes to maintaining video fidelity, regardless of the file type I upload.

[El Bandito]

Pariah Devalis, on 03 September 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

Can second Shadow Play. There is zero performance hit when actually playing the game, and you can record things after the fact. The only quality loss I experience is when I upload to youtube. By the time I am done editing things, the videos on my PC are 60 FPS, and sharp as a razor blade. Youtube, however, is a beast I can't seem to solve, when it comes to maintaining video fidelity, regardless of the file type I upload.

Yeah, it seems YouTube is not friendly toward converting Shadow Play recorded videos. The quality drop is very noticeable.