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#1 PanzerWar

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 08:55 AM

Is there anyway to play with bots instead of other people and still earn XP and CB? I'm just done with the people that play this game. Almost no-one understands basic stagey and it's like 9 losses to 1 win at times, if not worse. For example the team in my most recent match went right to the lowest part on the Frozen City map.... What moron would do that??? The other team saw this and took flanking positions in the outlining city ruins and quickly dispatched my team. In my opinion, Bots are probably more intelligent and would give better game play then dealing with unskilled players. Yes... This is a serious question.

#2 Antares102

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:02 AM

Serious answer: Nope

#3 Smites

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:07 AM

Judging by the AI of Escort? I sincerely doubt that one could or even should be awarded for defeating any number of bot-controlled mechs. Plus it breaks TT lore.

#4 Bud Crue

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:07 AM

View PostPaznerWar, on 29 August 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

Bots are probably more intelligent and would give better game play then dealing with unskilled players. Yes... This is a serious question.


I know there are some really bad players and all that, but...um...have you ever played an escort match?
Trust me here when I say that with PGI doing the AI work, its best to just stick with the players, no matter how bad they may be.

#5 Luminis

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:07 AM

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#6 Athom83

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:09 AM

View PostPaznerWar, on 29 August 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

Is there anyway to play with bots instead of other people and still earn XP and CB? I'm just done with the people that play this game. Almost no-one understands basic stagey and it's like 9 losses to 1 win at times, if not worse.

ANd its always your teams fault? You have absolutely nothing to do with it? *looks at leaderboards* -_-

View PostPaznerWar, on 29 August 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

For example the team in my most recent match went right to the lowest part on the Frozen City map.... What moron would do that???

Um... a team that has spearhead mechs and wants to win on that map...?

View PostPaznerWar, on 29 August 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

The other team saw this and took flanking positions in the outlining city ruins and quickly dispatched my team.

If they truly were in the valley, they would be protected from most fire from the city using the cover in the middle to push to a side and advance into the city with them. Something isn't adding up here.

View PostPaznerWar, on 29 August 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

In my opinion, Bots are probably more intelligent and would give better game play then dealing with unskilled players. Yes... This is a serious question.

"In my opinion", and that opinion is wrong.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:12 AM

lol - MW4 bots vastly outshine the PGI iteration of one (Escort Atlas), and all they did was run right at you with periodic stops/turns.
I'd say... Nope!

#8 Athom83

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:44 AM

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#9 MechaBattler

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:52 AM

I can imagine bots JJing into walls and catching on terrain everywhere. I think they'd have to make plainer maps for that.

#10 Luminis

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:23 AM

View PostMechaBattler, on 29 August 2017 - 09:52 AM, said:

I can imagine bots JJing into walls and catching on terrain everywhere. I think they'd have to make plainer maps for that.

Oh, good AI can be pretty impressive, even on difficult terrain and the like. The issue there is developing a competent AI.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:27 AM

I would be in the group saying PVE would be a fairly nice thing to have in MWO if you can run with some friends, do an objective style mission that is more like a Mechwarrior 4 mission (with tanks, infantry, planes, dropships ect..) than a slug-fest. But with how MW5 is round the corner, would rather wait for that and hope it has multi-player Co-Op modes.

#12 MechaBattler

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:33 AM

Well I'm taking PGI programming into account, Luminis. xD

#13 Nema Nabojiv

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:52 AM

View PostKitty Bacon, on 29 August 2017 - 10:27 AM, said:

I would be in the group saying PVE would be a fairly nice thing to have in MWO if you can run with some friends, do an objective style mission that is more like a Mechwarrior 4 mission (with tanks, infantry, planes, dropships ect..) than a slug-fest.

It wont do any good. Armored Warfare had PVE missions, and eventually people stopped playing PVP because everyone like winning and winning is easier in pve. And then player numbers went down because pve is boring and unchallenging.

Edited by Nema Nabojiv, 29 August 2017 - 10:52 AM.


#14 Luminis

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:03 AM

Suggestion: Make leaderboards private so that no hurtful information might get leaked...

View PostNema Nabojiv, on 29 August 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

It wont do any good. Armored Warfare had PVE missions, and eventually people stopped playing PVP because everyone like winning and winning is easier in pve. And then player numbers went down because pve is boring and unchallenging.

Doesn't have to happen. Games like Heroes of the Storm have PvE and they're not suffering from a lack of players for the PvP modes.

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:07 AM

View PostNema Nabojiv, on 29 August 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

It wont do any good. Armored Warfare had PVE missions, and eventually people stopped playing PVP because everyone like winning and winning is easier in pve. And then player numbers went down because pve is boring and unchallenging.



Not to mention MailRU ran it into the ground hard core because they did not want Obsidian Entertainment to develop the game their way. Lots of players (Including myself) left the game when that whole ****storm went on...

I really liked Armored Warfare but, when the russians took it over it dumped hard T-T

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:38 AM



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Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:42 AM

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#18 Mechteric

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 12:05 PM

I guess OP never played with bots in Mechwarrior 4.


They were just as dumb as the dumbest players in MWO, the only thing they did better is have good aim at the higher bot levels.

#19 Davegt27

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 12:23 PM

don't be fooled by the Atlas in escort missions

PGI engineers are good

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Posted 29 August 2017 - 12:32 PM

View PostPaznerWar, on 29 August 2017 - 08:55 AM, said:

Is there anyway to play with bots instead of other people and still earn XP and CB? I'm just done with the people that play this game. Almost no-one understands basic stagey and it's like 9 losses to 1 win at times, if not worse. For example the team in my most recent match went right to the lowest part on the Frozen City map.... What moron would do that??? The other team saw this and took flanking positions in the outlining city ruins and quickly dispatched my team. In my opinion, Bots are probably more intelligent and would give better game play then dealing with unskilled players. Yes... This is a serious question.


Find a good unit to drop with. Solo queue is the potato fields. Actually, it is more like organizing a group of 3 year olds with ADHD in a room full of shiny objects to focus on a common goal. Having a group to drop with who will try to work together goes a long ways towards enjoyment in this game.



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