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They have a working kill counter. I do not see how they can't get other working monitors when the proof that they can is right there.

[JC Daxion]

Alcom Isst, on 30 August 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

Yes. It's a nice feature for screenshots or the like, though. Thought I'd share it as it's not the most obvious feature in the game.

Fair enough.. I didn't know the keys to do that anyway.. But i am hoping for more functionality, know what i mean?

[Kitty Bacon]

Alcom Isst, on 30 August 2017 - 12:46 PM, said:

Right Shift + F11

And if you want to have a really fun time with your lance mates, set up a private 2v2/4v4/4v4 clan VS IS match with some friends and everyone turn off their huds and try to fight in River City. Its freaking intense!

[Vancer2]

Bump,

[LordNothing]

Yeonne Greene, on 31 August 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

They have a working kill counter. I do not see how they can't get other working monitors when the proof that they can is right there.

all signs to me point to the possibility that they can only use additive blending on the render targets. skull board works because you can fill the board with the outline pattern tiled out, and then fill it out again one skull at a time each time you get a kill. the colors will add and appear brighter than previous. it looks good and it works. more dynamic information is impossible to display when all you can do is brighten the pixels. you would essentially bleed everything to the max color value and no further changes could be made at that point. i presume this is also why the old screens were all fullbright colors.

it should be possible to activate other blend modes (or switch it off entirely so you are just writing texel values), but its possible that the creators of cryengine never fully implemented those features or that pgi is using them incorrectly.

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LordNothing, on 01 September 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

all signs to me point to the possibility that they can only use additive blending on the render targets. skull board works because you can fill the board with the outline pattern tiled out, and then fill it out again one skull at a time each time you get a kill. the colors will add and appear brighter than previous. it looks good and it works. more dynamic information is impossible to display when all you can do is brighten the pixels. you would essentially bleed everything to the max color value and no further changes could be made at that point. i presume this is also why the old screens were all fullbright colors.

it should be possible to activate other blend modes (or switch it off entirely so you are just writing texel values), but its possible that the creators of cryengine never fully implemented those features or that pgi is using them incorrectly.

The skull patterns on the kill counter are two distinctly different shapes between lit and unlit. And even if they weren't, all you need to be able to do is brighten and darken pixels to have functioning ammo counters, HTAL, paper doll, etc. on the monitors.

As for the full bright, I think they were doing that to give it that CRT look in game. A display is a light source, and full bright gives it that sort of vibrance. It's an aesthetic fit.

[LordNothing]

Yeonne Greene, on 01 September 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

The skull patterns on the kill counter are two distinctly different shapes between lit and unlit. And even if they weren't, all you need to be able to do is brighten and darken pixels to have functioning ammo counters, HTAL, paper doll, etc. on the monitors.

As for the full bright, I think they were doing that to give it that CRT look in game. A display is a light source, and full bright gives it that sort of vibrance. It's an aesthetic fit.

i dont recall ever seeing instances of things on the displays getting darker. if you take a lit up skull and render it over a dark outline skull, the brighter colors will wash out the less bright outline. if that doesnt work you can subtract the first bitmap from the second in photoshop or whatever so that when blended you get the desired output. i smell workarounds and still suspect that they are locked into an alpha blending mode.

[Y E O N N E]

LordNothing, on 02 September 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

i dont recall ever seeing instances of things on the displays getting darker. if you take a lit up skull and render it over a dark outline skull, the brighter colors will wash out the less bright outline. if that doesnt work you can subtract the first bitmap from the second in photoshop or whatever so that when blended you get the desired output. i smell workarounds and still suspect that they are locked into an alpha blending mode.

None of it makes sense. They have code in the game to trigger texture swaps already; it's what happens when you do damage to a 'Mech. There cockpit monitors are textures. Even if they need to forgo using the alpha channel for whatever reason to light it, they could still use an external light source. Though even that makes no sense, since damage glow illustrates they can do exactly what we need.

[MauttyKoray]

Vancer2, on 30 August 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

Now that we have the ability to turn off cockpit monitors on and off in the options menu, could we get the old cockpit monitors back? The ones that showed ammunition stored in parts of the mech and how many heatsinks we had. Like the picture shown here

Edit. Please stay on track, I want the developers to see this thread, if you guys know people who want this back tell them! It brings great immersion into the game! Spread the word!

I implore you, please spread word of this. This is a great immersion feature. Im sure many of you would agree. If enough people want a feature added, PGI will surely listen, RIGHT?!

I will also occasionally bump this topic from time to time.

I think the best option wouldn't just be to 'get them back' but to implement them as well.

Thus you would end up with three states of monitors.

Active - The old monitors with accurate tracking of mech info
Static - Current Monitors that are simply animated textures
Off - Self Explanatory

[Vancer2]

Bumpy

[Appogee]

They're like IK... "temporarily" removed...

[Vancer2]

Don't... don't say that ;_;

[Sebaztien Hawke]

What might be good is a MWO app, which turned your iPad or tablet / phone into an MFD and allowed us to monitor something on a second screen, keep the battlegrid map up, have an easier to use weapon control screen (on the fly weapon groups by tapping to toggle on and off etc).

Maybe a rear view?

But the current screens do seem to show gibberish and no actual in game info read outs, which is a shame.

Edited by Sebaztien Hawke, 08 September 2017 - 06:18 PM.

[Angel of Annihilation]

DAYLEET, on 30 August 2017 - 09:55 PM, said:

Unless they sit with us and tell us EXACTLY which new content they are paying with the adds... i want none. I had adds about intel in bf2142, i didnt mind or even noticed them but we got nothing in exchange, we paid full price for the game and xpac. Burnout Paradise had Doritos adds, i thought they were funny, the game cost next to nothing and was hella fun. I wish Elite Dangerous had some adds at the station entrance, im pretty sure they would know what to do with the cash. I know i thought adds in mwo was a good idea years ago but i pretty much changed my mind. But i feel like pgi does things for cash and not things with cash.

I wouldn't trust PGI to actually spend the money on MWO. I mean If I recall correctly they managed to secure about 5 million from use founders but at some point through a shareholders meeting or something, it was made known that about 2/3 of it got siphoned off for "Other Projects" which is one of the reasons why we got the game in such a basic state. PGI just never invested the money this game actually needed.

Also it doesn't take a genius to figure out the reason why this game has stagnated for so long with no new content being added was because they took all the money they made from the mech packs plus moved all the strong programmers, Map designers, to their AAA flagship title MW5.

[DAYLEET]

Viktor Drake, on 08 September 2017 - 10:31 PM, said:

I wouldn't trust PGI to actually spend the money on MWO. I mean If I recall correctly they managed to secure about 5 million from use founders but at some point through a shareholders meeting or something, it was made known that about 2/3 of it got siphoned off for "Other Projects" which is one of the reasons why we got the game in such a basic state. PGI just never invested the money this game actually needed.

Also it doesn't take a genius to figure out the reason why this game has stagnated for so long with no new content being added was because they took all the money they made from the mech packs plus moved all the strong programmers, Map designers, to their AAA flagship title MW5.

Im sure those other projects got nice cars with some coke and hoockers on the hood.

[Vancer2]

Bumpy