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#201 UnofficialOperator

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:09 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 08 February 2018 - 09:58 AM, said:


I already topped the old mechstats website by a lot. I've already topped the leaderboards for match score. I think I might even have the highest on there. I'll top it again for this month and be rank 1 again later today just to show everyone how deluded about this game you are.


So just to make it clear. You are going to make rank 1 in Average Matchscore with 200 matches or more with your main T1 account?

#202 Ghogiel

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:10 PM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 08 February 2018 - 05:09 PM, said:


So just to make it clear. You are going to make rank 1 in Average Matchscore with 200 matches or more with your main T1 account?

If you read the thread and you will know the answer.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:11 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 08 February 2018 - 05:10 PM, said:

If you read the thread and you will know the answer.


Don't dodge. We need to set the conditions clear, My bad, I have failed reading

EDIT: Anyway if you are saying you will be rank 1 in average match score with this Ghogiel account after 200 matches, I'm pretty sure you can't do it either.

EDIT 2: Yeah if its on an alt in T5, its possible.

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 08 February 2018 - 05:23 PM.


#204 Ghogiel

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:13 PM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 08 February 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:


Don't dodge. We need to set the conditions clear.

Like I said first page on an alt.

#205 UnofficialOperator

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:15 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 08 February 2018 - 05:13 PM, said:

Like I said first page on an alt.


Oh ok my bad. Yeah an alt is possible. Look at the current rank 1.

#206 Ghogiel

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:15 PM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 08 February 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:


Oh ok my bad. Yeah an alt is possible. Look at the current rank 1.

Yeah that's me

edit: you mean on jarls?

Edited by Ghogiel, 08 February 2018 - 05:16 PM.


#207 UnofficialOperator

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:18 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 08 February 2018 - 05:15 PM, said:

Yeah that's me

edit: you mean on jarls?


Nope. I mean on the mwo leaderboards.

Still pretty impressive if you can maintain it for 200 matches from T5.

Edit: But then again people like ASH and Hammercoleman does pretty consistent and high MS in T1 soooooo...

Anyway its a good challenge.

Good luck :)

Edited by UnofficialOperator, 08 February 2018 - 05:20 PM.


#208 Ghogiel

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:19 PM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 08 February 2018 - 05:18 PM, said:


Nope. I mean on the mwo leaderboards.

Still pretty impressive if you can maintain it for 200 matches from T5.

Oh yeah 600+ is impressive a little if I manage that. But I only need to do 450 to get on first page or something which is not hard.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:22 PM

Can't wait for Solaris to come out and all these forum grudge matches to start

#210 Bombast

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:23 PM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 08 February 2018 - 05:22 PM, said:

Can't wait for Solaris to come out and all these forum grudge matches to start


I can't wait for Solaris to drop so we can start seeing 'Flamers are OP Horse ****' threads.

#211 Ghogiel

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:26 PM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 08 February 2018 - 05:22 PM, said:

Can't wait for Solaris to come out and all these forum grudge matches to start

The leaderboards on solaris will probably be 100% more accurate and look nothing like the jarls list. The whole point I am making is that the jarl list is about solo farming and is mostly divorced from ranking player skill in anyway. The player may or may not be good, but who knows.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:39 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 08 February 2018 - 05:26 PM, said:

The leaderboards on solaris will probably be 100% more accurate and look nothing like the jarls list. The whole point I am making is that the jarl list is about solo farming and is mostly divorced from ranking player skill in anyway. The player may or may not be good, but who knows.


The leaderboards includes both solo and group queue no?

IMO as a rough guide, the leaderboards are good enough until they separate group/solo queue and rank by tiers. The correlation between damage/matchscore/WL ratio is good enough as of now. Anecdotal of course :)

Of course until they change it to a more granular format, then we would have higher accuracy. Even then I suspect we will see almost the same people at the top and at the bottom. Especially those bads that claim damage and MS don't matter. They will still be at the bottom regardless.

#213 Ghogiel

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:50 PM

View PostUnofficialOperator, on 08 February 2018 - 05:39 PM, said:


The leaderboards includes both solo and group queue no?

IMO as a rough guide, the leaderboards are good enough until they separate group/solo queue and rank by tiers. The correlation between damage/matchscore/WL ratio is good enough as of now. Anecdotal of course Posted Image

Of course until they change it to a more granular format, then we would have higher accuracy. Even then I suspect we will see almost the same people at the top and at the bottom. Especially those bads that claim damage and MS don't matter. They will still be at the bottom regardless.

Yep. It dumps solo and group into the mix.

Even with that skewing the data, the jarls list is already more accurate if you just sort it by w/l if you want to see something that is ranking players from good to bad imo. The MS sorting has such a massive bias towards solo and/or alts it's just to look at for fun.

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 05:56 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 08 February 2018 - 05:07 PM, said:

Nuh uh bro, no moving the goal posts. First page. You have paypal?


You're the one who said rank 1.

Top page on Jarl's List or mwo leaderboard by match score?

With 200 matches in a brand new alt. Not a fully built and skilled up account intentionally tanked to bottom of T5.

No, not paying you anything regardless. All you're doing is proving my point about match score being a bad metric to leaderboard with. I just don't think you're actually that good at the game. Good, sure. Just not that good.

First page from season 19 was over 500 match score. Do that with a new account and 200 matches. I don't think you can.



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Posted 08 February 2018 - 06:07 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 08 February 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

You're the one who said rank 1.

Top page on Jarl's List or mwo leaderboard by match score?

You're just embarrassing yourself now. That's not written anywhere. And you even know what I was saying because you repeated it back to me >

View PostMischiefSC, on 08 February 2018 - 09:43 AM, said:

No. I absolutely do not think you're good enough at the game to get on page 1 with over 200 matches.

Edited by Ghogiel, 08 February 2018 - 06:07 PM.


#216 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 09 February 2018 - 12:48 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 08 February 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:

You're just embarrassing yourself now. That's not written anywhere. And you even know what I was saying because you repeated it back to me >

Erm...

View PostGhogiel, on 08 February 2018 - 09:58 AM, said:

I already topped the old mechstats website by a lot. I've already topped the leaderboards for match score. I think I might even have the highest on there. I'll top it again for this month and be rank 1 again later today just to show everyone how deluded about this game you are.

...are you sure about that?

#217 Ghogiel

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

View PostJay Leon Hart, on 09 February 2018 - 12:48 PM, said:

Erm...

...are you sure about that?

I won the bet already then because I actually topped the leaderboards for matchscore

https://mwomercs.com...le/leaderboards

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 06:10 PM

Is it possible to combine stats after name changes?

Currently using NIGHTBIRD, previous used NLGHTBLRD and IRONNIGHTBIRD

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 06:11 PM

View PostGhogiel, on 10 February 2018 - 06:00 PM, said:

I won the bet already then because I actually topped the leaderboards for matchscore

https://mwomercs.com...le/leaderboards


With 200 matches? Cuz I don't see that.

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Posted 10 February 2018 - 06:18 PM

View PostMischiefSC, on 10 February 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

With 200 matches? Cuz I don't see that.

Didn't say I was going to do 200 matches. Just says top the leaderboards for this month. Which I did

But if you got paypal I'll go first page on jarls list with 200.





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