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[RussianWolf]

Many moons ago.... on OLD frozen city. Some guy charged through the gap and was lit up by my team. They were pummeling him hard and I was like "I want an assist" so shot a single small laser in the guy's direction.

Pop

XXXX was killed by Russianwolf

Yep, I really worked hard for THAT one. lol

[Vellron2005]

The6thMessenger, on 11 September 2017 - 01:41 AM, said:

You know what else speaks volumes in itself? You being triggered about the indirect criticsm of LRMs.

Well I hope it does.. Cose' I've had enough of it.. Maybe I am a bit sensitive of the subject, I admit, but it's only cose' there's so much of it going around that I've had my fill.. And your "efficient kill" idea would only add to the prejudice and legitimize bullying LRM users.. (A point you again, clearly missed, for reasons undisclosed)

We can banter on the merits of philosophy, good manners and such all day, but it won't make the facts any different.

An "efficient kill" would be the in-game equivalent of "holier than thou".. and yes I would find that very insulting.. and I'm sure I'm not the only one..

Hey, maybe, you would understand what I'm talking about if instead of your "efficient kill" PGI added a "No damage taken kill" (one that rewards a kill shot to a mech that you take no damage from), or an "Unseen kill" (a kill on a mech while in full cover from it), or some other reward that clearly allows others to grow their epeen, while making you feel small?

is that really what the game needs? More epeen padding?

P.S.

The "#Triggered" part of my post here was intended as a joke.. oh well, guess I'll chalk that one up a s a failiure to transmit humor on a forum

Edited by Vellron2005, 11 September 2017 - 11:51 PM.

[The6thMessenger]

Vellron2005, on 11 September 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

Well I hope it does.. Cose' I've had enough of it.. Maybe I am a bit sensitive of the subject, I admit, but it's only cose' there's so much of it going around that I've had my fill.. And your "efficient kill" idea would only add to the prejudice and legitimize bullying LRM users..

Oh, so this is how it is. You taking it too personally. That you feel attacked when LRMs are criticized, tossed around and ****. I just used LRMs as an example of spreading, Lasers and RACs are capable of spread too, SRMs when used long range, Clan AC5 - 20, LBXs, IS UAC10 and 20. Not once i have equated bad to inefficient, the LRM has a LOT more reason why it's bad aside from it's damage spreading.

You think LRMs would be shat upon? People would get more flack from elitist ***** when they don't get Efficient Kills out of direct-fire pin-point weapons. LRMs could be the least of your problems. But hey, those are elitist *****, they have their own idea of fun.

You being petty about it sounds like your personal problem you need to deal on your own, don't make us suffer for it.

Vellron2005, on 11 September 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

(A point you again, clearly missed, for reasons undisclosed)

Oh please. Again? Why don't you clarify yourself? Please spell the point out for us. Are you having difficulty conveying yourself? Or maybe you cant because there isn't a point in there?

Either way please spell it out so we can properly respond, or it's just so you can shut people up?

Vellron2005, on 11 September 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

We can banter on the merits of philosophy, good manners and such all day, but it won't make the facts any different.

An "efficient kill" would be the in-game equivalent of "holier than thou".. and yes I would find that very insulting.. and I'm sure I'm not the only one..

Non-LRMers are also capable of being inefficient, lasers can instead be spread around and chew anything other than the CT or head by the damage jockey. Poor Aim or good shielding can make ACs hard to center at the torso or head. Efficient Kills would be very hard to trigger.

So what if there's an holier-than-thou reward? They earned it.

LRMs might be incapable of doing so, but this system isn't for ******** on the LRM, or it's people. You and/or LRMs are not the center of the universe.

You know what i find insulting? Religion, it's an insult to the human intellect, we know better than our forefathers, through science, we have saved many lives through our modern medicine, more powerful computers that allowed us to play MWO at all and other games, sent people to the moon, a probe at the surface of the comet, and at the edge of the solar system -- no diety required.

Yet we have people with superstitious magical thinking all hinging on faith alone, each of them thinking that their religion is better than others, "moderates" protesting against the very right that allows them to protest, extremists that toss gays off roofs, subjugate women for pleasure, and murder those that does not belong. "Mission from god" it seems, one I'd rather burn in hell than worship in heaven.

But that's very subjective, that's self-serving. What about the ones that holds a peaceful religion? Those that believed it because it makes them happy and a good person that don't harm other people? What about their own freedom to think for themselves? Why would one anti-religious ************* dictates what others should believe?

Me being insulted is not a good reason, just as you being insulted or anyone being insulted wouldn't be a good reason. That's you and your own biases preventing you from being rational, and so is mine. We have to protect people's rights to believe in whatever they want by not forcing people to not believe, so we ourselves wouldn't be forced to believe in what they believe.

You can play the victim of insult all you want or any other people, that doesn't hold any merit.

Vellron2005, on 11 September 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

Hey, maybe, you would understand what I'm talking about if instead of your "efficient kill" PGI added a "No damage taken kill" (one that rewards a kill shot to a mech that you take no damage from), or an "Unseen kill" (a kill on a mech while in full cover from it), or some other reward that clearly allows others to grow their epeen, while making you feel small?

is that really what the game needs? More epeen padding?

Oh, so that's how it is. You keep saying "you missed the point" so you can just dismiss me, when I already told you that I understand your point.

The6thMessenger, on 11 September 2017 - 01:41 AM, said:

That you think that this "Efficient Kill" is just another way to gloat, and is not needed.

Why would you even care? Do you play for fun? For scores? Do you worry about other's opinion about you? You can't please the world or the community, sometimes what one person likes is what another hates, stop doing so.

I played for fun, War_Glaivez can keep his ridiculously high KDA ratio, meta-jockeys can keep their gauss and PPCs, spuds and their shameful way of playing LRMs that makes them a detriment to the team. I do my thing. I wouldn't mind the Unseen Kill or the No-Damage Kill, they can keep those scores.

As to what's needed? I don't know if it's needed or not, i just spoke an idea into the ether and asked the community. PGI is completely free of adding anything to the game, whether it's needed or not. We can hope for additions, whether it's needed or not, sometimes it's just for fun.

This entire debacle? This is you being too emotional and upset, crucifying some guy for his idea he's not exactly pushing fervently, and on other guys' idea of fun and a challenge.

Vellron2005, on 11 September 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

The "#Triggered" part of my post here was intended as a joke.. oh well, guess I'll chalk that one up a s a failiure to transmit humor on a forum

That looks more like poor communication skills.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 13 September 2017 - 02:00 AM.

[Lily from animove]

The6thMessenger, on 08 September 2017 - 12:57 AM, said:

Currently, our solo kill as a metric does not really accurately measure the efficiency of the kill. An LRM boat could very well pepper an enemy, damage spread around, and kill it gaining solo kill, but so does an accurate shot on the CT with less damage -- much more efficient kill.

An enemy peppered with LRMs and lived, only to be killed by an efficient player could. But a solo kill won't be achieved if enemy damage is padded by the LRM user.

Comes the "Efficient Kill", this also uses the metric of time in addition of damage. The faster you disposed of an enemy, the more efficient you are. A damage spread around the mech would take more time than other wise coring or head-shotting it out, or XL check.

If you are a player with good aim, you should hit right? That means you should minimize your Time to Kill. Missed shots, or spread damage increase time to kill, so high amount of time-to-kill should mean it's less efficient.

It goes like this:

Most Efficient Damage = Percentage of your total damage dealt to the enemy, in relation to the CT armor and structure, or HD armor and structure for a head-shot, or ST If equipped with an IS XL, with respect to the direction of fire -- such as if rear CT kill then it would be Rear CT armor + Structure. Must be above 50%.

Least Time to Kill = Cumulative amount of time engaged with the enemy battlemech / total amount of time the engaged battlemech is alive. Each enemy player gets their own. Less is better.

Efficient Kill = Least Time to Kill + Most Efficient Damage + Killing Blow

Weakness:
- Excessive alphas can throw the metric off. As perhaps one-shotting a locust with so much SRMs to oblivion would prevent Most-Efficient-Damage, despite just a single alpha. If you have a way around this, it would be nice to hear.

What do you think?

EDIT:

Forgot the Killing Blow part.

this questions efficient leg kills or ST kills on Xl engines.

measuring an efficient skill is in the end rating a mechs remaining HP as well.
Engage times are also an issues as there are way too many different playstyles to determine this correctly.

I am not sure if MWO even can have a proper measurement, on shooters where one hitbox exists it's easier to equalise damage values and measure them, in mwo thats much different.

[The6thMessenger]

Lily from animove, on 12 September 2017 - 02:18 AM, said:

this questions efficient leg kills or ST kills on Xl engines.

Well, kind of. Considering IS XL and Clan XL/IS LFE, and legs, perhaps that depends on what got focused.

If one focused on leg kill, both leg armor and structure get referenced. This is also useful for eliminating lights IMO, because in my experience the leg is where you nab a light whether it's an Urbanmech or a Locust, a legged Light is easier to kill. And with the leg generally having less HP than the CT, it would be far more efficient to destroy the Leg than the CT. Unless of course the CT is already open, so i guess that could be taken into account.

And the IS XL, the mech dies on a destroyed side-torso, so going all the bother to destroy the CT would be noth as efficient.

Clan XL/ IS LFE, the CT would still yield less damage to be taken down so going the bother to destroy both side-torso or one side-torso + CT would be inefficient.

Lily from animove, on 12 September 2017 - 02:18 AM, said:

measuring an efficient skill is in the end rating a mechs remaining HP as well.

Kill, not Skill. Efficient survival skills, from cover usage to damage spread can be reflected by not dying.

Lily from animove, on 12 September 2017 - 02:18 AM, said:

Engage times are also an issues as there are way too many different playstyles to determine this correctly.

I know, this is just bare-bones idea.

There's that "Hit and Run" tactic that triggers, maybe the engagement ends when that triggers.

Lily from animove, on 12 September 2017 - 02:18 AM, said:

I am not sure if MWO even can have a proper measurement, on shooters where one hitbox exists it's easier to equalise damage values and measure them, in mwo thats much different.

Well, leave that to PGI.

[Vellron2005]

The6thMessenger, on 12 September 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

Oh please. Again? Why don't you clarify yourself? Please spell the point out for us. Are you having difficulty conveying yourself? Or maybe you cant because there isn't a point in there?

Either way please spell it out so we can properly respond, or it's just so you can shut people up?

Ok, so here's a clarification - as clear as I can make it..

Your idea will make it even easier for people to get bullied.. not just me.. many many people.. I'm just one of the few being vocal about it and who's not afraid to speak against it.

It would legitimize bullying people.

Your efficient kill idea is kinda the same as telling a bunch of spoiled rich kids in primary school that "that girl is poor and different, she's an easy target, but that's none of my business guys".

The6thMessenger, on 12 September 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

You being petty about it sounds like your personal problem you need to deal on your own, don't make us suffer for it.?

This entire debacle? This is you being too emotional and upset, crucifying some guy for his idea he's not exactly pushing fervently, and on other guys' idea of fun and a challenge.

It's not me being emotional and upset, nor is this just "my problem". LRM hate that your idea would propagate being just "my problem" is like saying that racism was just M.L.King's problem. Or that women's rights (or lack thereof) was just some pissed off woman's problem. It's a gross way of making it about me instead of the larger issue.

It's really not about me.

While I acknowledge that your idea may have been motivated by a desire for a fun challenge, I'm trying to point out what it would do. Please try to understand that.

The6thMessenger, on 12 September 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

So what if there's an holier-than-thou reward? They earned it.

No, they did not. Anybody has a right to be good. Nobody has the right to put others down to show off their epeen.

Now, that it's all nice and spelled out for you, if you still insist on pushing the issue that would have the aforementioned effects on others, I guess we know what camp you're with. I trully hope you're better than that.

I hope you understand that it would have negative effects on others and this game as a whole. Just think - efficient kill = more bullied players = less people that want to play in this toxic community = less players = worse game for all.

If you don't / can't understand that simple fact, then well.. I'm done explaining and arguing.

There's no point to this, and I don't feel like going round in circles.

Edited by Vellron2005, 13 September 2017 - 12:20 AM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

Ok, so here's a clarification - as clear as I can make it..

Your idea will make it even easier for people to get bullied.. not just me.. many many people.. I'm just one of the few being vocal about it and who's not afraid to speak against it.

It would legitimize bullying people.

Your efficient kill idea is kinda the same as telling a bunch of spoiled rich kids in primary school that "that girl is poor and different, she's an easy target, but that's none of my business guys".
*snip*

Wait, what? Rewarding clean, accurate aiming/firing will legitimise bullying? I think I need to read more of this thread, because that's comedy gold right there

[The6thMessenger]

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

Ok, so here's a clarification - as clear as I can make it..

Your idea will make it even easier for people to get bullied.. not just me.. many many people.. I'm just one of the few being vocal about it and who's not afraid to speak against it.

It would legitimize bullying people.

*facepalm

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That's against the ToS, there is no "Legitimate" Bullying in MWO or any other PGI services. If you mean reddit? Let those elitist ***** have their fun, leave them, let them die alone rotting in their basement like the low-life trolls they are. Jesus holy ******* mother ******* Christ man! Jesus **** ******* **** fuckiddy **** **** ****.

But hey, you know, what about define what you think is bullying? Is it just shaming people? Because you are still not allowed to do that. Is it people dismissing people? You can't force people to listen to you.

Or is it basically anything that would make you feel bad? Even just remotely? You're in for a disappointment because the world isn't all sunshine and daises.

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

Your efficient kill idea is kinda the same as telling a bunch of spoiled rich kids in primary school that "that girl is poor and different, she's an easy target, but that's none of my business guys".

No it's not the same. It's "I Aced all my subjects, therefore i get a medal"

"I scored high on the SAT, therefore i'm better than you."

etc. etc.

It's gloating by arrogant people. Humble-people wouldn't breath a word about it but just keep it to themselves and be happy on their own.

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

It's not me being emotional and upset, nor is this just "my problem". LRM hate that your idea would propagate being just "my problem" is like saying that racism was just M.L.King's problem. Or that women's rights (or lack thereof) was just some pissed off woman's problem. It's a gross way of making it about me instead of the larger issue.

It's really not about me.

Except it's actually about you, demonstrated by your previous statements. It's not the same as racism and MLK, or women's rights/lack there off. (Depends on the countries, places like Saudi Arabia have horrible treatment of women by comparison, but US actually have lots of women's rights and there's actually positive bias for them, like child custody.)

Do you even understand how you "spoke" (cause there's no sound, you just typed words)? I understand the love for LRMs as i love Urbanmechs, but right now it's so evident that you hinge your identity to LRMs that you feel attacked upon it's criticism, and maybe people like you. And when this type of reward is installed, you feel more criticized, that you not measuring up would be forced in your face more.

You're too insecure, too worried about LRMs measuring up, therefore you have this irrational paranoia that people will bully LRM you (users). People will dismiss you from being competent as you cannot get Efficient Kills, etc. etc.

You think LRM users could have it bad? The reward is actually pretty hard, it's understandable when LRM users don't get efficient kills. If anything, people with major pin-point direct-fire weapons would get more flack because they are unable to get "Efficient Kills" despite not using LRMs. Done so at least by elitist *****.

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

While I acknowledge that your idea may have been motivated by a desire for a fun challenge, I'm trying to point out what it would do. Please try to understand that.

I understand your worry, however I find it as moot and irrational.

What you have is very well may be too thin of a skin, and/or irrational paranoia. That's you and your own fears clouding your judgement, and affecting your ability to rationally think this through. You feel threatened with someone else's achievements, on the hint that they are better than you.

I admit, i worry if i would able to measure up to the level of my peers, yes i feel insecure too and i know that's my personal problem and nobody elses. But really, this is just some messed up, next-level paranoia and insecurity.

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

No, they did not. Anybody has a right to be good. Nobody has the right to put others down to show off their epeen.

And there it is! You just feel bad because other people are flaunting how good they are!

Yes they have such right, it's called freedom of expression. If you can shut down people from expressing themselves, then it could be used against you. That's why if you want to keep the freedom to express your own, you should also protect the freedom to express those you would hate.

However, you as well as others don't have the right to be listened, so you can just ignore people that express themselves in a way that you hate. ******* ignore those mother ******* donkey-****** ****-eaters, that's what you need to do.

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

Now, that it's all nice and spelled out for you, if you still insist on pushing the issue that would have the aforementioned effects on others, I guess we know what camp you're with. I trully hope you're better than that.

Oh, so basically "if you're not with me, you're against me"? That close and narrow minded dichotomous thinking of yours.

The problem is those others you speak of are too thin-skinned, too sensitive, too paranoid. Hell, just as narcissistic as the elitist people you think would flock to bully people like you. Whatever man (if i misgendered you, suck it up, i don't care. There are no girls in the internet, **** or gtfo).

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

I hope you understand that it would have negative effects on others and this game as a whole. Just think - efficient kill = more bullied players = less people that want to play in this toxic community = less players = worse game for all.

No, you think that would happen. But really there's no good reason to expect it. That's you and your own personal problems, your insecurity, your worries, there's no rationality there.

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

If you don't / can't understand that simple fact, then well.. I'm done explaining and arguing.

There's no point to this, and I don't feel like going round in circles.

Reason only works to those willing to listen. You're not willing to listen, you're too scared to listen. Have fun on your little safe space. I hope you have a thicker skin when you get back.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 13 September 2017 - 02:14 AM.

[sycocys]

The6thMessenger, on 08 September 2017 - 12:57 AM, said:

Efficient Kill = Least Time to Kill + Most Efficient Damage + Killing Blow

Efficient Kill = Damage Expended (individual) - Total Damage Done to target (from both teams, arties and FF count) + Killing blow with KMD as a perquisite.

Time isn't really a good way to factor this type of bonus, it should be reliant on damage and accuracy/efficiency of securing a killing blow from it.

[The6thMessenger]

sycocys, on 13 September 2017 - 02:06 AM, said:

Efficient Kill = Damage Expended (individual) - Total Damage Done to target (from both teams, arties and FF count) + Killing blow with KMD as a perquisite.

Time isn't really a good way to factor this type of bonus, it should be reliant on damage and accuracy/efficiency of securing a killing blow from it.

To be fair, the faster you kill a target, the less damage such a target dealt. You also minimized your TTK, therefore "efficient".

Also your calculation is basically just solo kill, "Damage Expended (individual) - Total Damage Done to target (from both teams, arties and FF count)" is basically most dealt damage.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 13 September 2017 - 02:18 AM.

[sycocys]

The6thMessenger, on 13 September 2017 - 02:10 AM, said:

To be fair, the faster you kill a target, the less damage such a target dealt. You also minimized your TTK, therefore "efficient".

Also your calculation is basically just solo kill.

My calc accounts for all damage to a given target, just requires that you are the one that does the most damage out of the lot to get the reward accounted to you.

The reason time isn't a good metric to use over damage sent - damage done is that it would further embed full team deathballing and jacked up alphas as the games primary methods of play and actually reduce kill efficiency in favor of launching as many alphas at a target as possible.

Efficiency is the least amount of damage done to disable a target for potential salvage or removal from the battlefield.

[Lily from animove]

sycocys, on 13 September 2017 - 02:23 AM, said:

My calc accounts for all damage to a given target, just requires that you are the one that does the most damage out of the lot to get the reward accounted to you. The reason time isn't a good metric to use over damage sent - damage done is that it would further embed full team deathballing and jacked up alphas as the games primary methods of play and actually reduce kill efficiency in favor of launching as many alphas at a target as possible. Efficiency is the least amount of damage done to disable a target for potential salvage or removal from the battlefield.

but wouldn't this mean bad spread damage done will mean more efficient? so basically 2x an alpha of a streakcrow into any assautl would secure you the most damage done when others just shoot the CT out. And thats not how you measure efficiency.

damage efficiency would mean determining the cause of death: CT death, or ST death (by ether 1ST in Xl death or 2 in LFE/cXL) or leg death. And then distribute most rewards to those people that were involvedinto thsi cause of death and also takign the remaining HP into account.

a mech kileld wiht the CT shot out will mostlikely have a lot HP left in total, which is quite efficient. While a mech with the CT shot out but stripped everywhere else is a very inefficient kill.

Edited by Lily from animove, 13 September 2017 - 03:21 AM.

[sycocys]

You're right my equation wasn't correct.

It should look more like -
[Total Damage - Individual Damage on Target * Personal Kill Count] % [Total Damage - Individual Damage Spent (not hit, total damage released) * Personal Kill Count ]

That would give you a damage to kill efficiency percentage, after that you'd want to have modifiers and prerequisites like KMD to enable/disable getting the reward.
And as you stated there could be potential issues with some high alpha builds, I guess that depends on how the damage is accounted for on the server side. If a CT dies in the order before the game triggers the damage to other components I don't believe additional damage accrues on your stats. But this could also be mitigated by having a components hit modifier or number of weapons fired (anti-large alpha shot) one.
Another good modifier would be to account for your heat threshold because it's not efficient to be having combat in overrun mode.

Personally I would err on the side of adding rewards/bonuses that don't promote the current boring style of meta game play. I do get where you two are coming from, but I think that it would be more beneficial for the game as a whole to try to get away from promoting the deathball and power alpha methods of play so it can at least try to develop into something more than an arena gang shooter.

[Vellron2005]

I guess people can't understand certain things until they happen to them.

As I said..

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

There's no point to this, and I don't feel like going round in circles.

Edited by Vellron2005, 14 September 2017 - 12:07 AM.

[The6thMessenger]

Vellron2005, on 14 September 2017 - 12:04 AM, said:

I guess people can't understand certain things until they happen to them.

So basically it's PTSD? You got PTSD from seeing people being better pilots than you? You got PTSD because the sight of other people being successful is stressing you?

The6thMessenger, on 13 September 2017 - 01:50 AM, said:

Vellron2005, on 13 September 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

No, they did not. Anybody has a right to be good. Nobody has the right to put others down to show off their epeen.

And there it is! You just feel bad because other people are flaunting how good they are!

But you know what, okay, I won't judge. There's people like Melody Hensley getting PTSD from the internet, it's totally a normal thing.

There's a reason why it's called a "disorder". Please go find a therapist, it's just making things difficult for you and the rest of the community.

Vellron2005, on 14 September 2017 - 12:04 AM, said:

As I said..

The6thMessenger, on 13 September 2017 - 01:50 AM, said:

Have fun on your little safe space. I hope you have a thicker skin when you get back.

No seriously, please grow thicker skin, the internet or the world is far from a safe space. Also a therapist for counseling, you seem to need it.

Buh bye.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 14 September 2017 - 01:48 AM.

[OmniFail]

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I think the lurms have given you the PTSDs so bad you can't think straight.

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So basically it's PTSD? You got PTSD from seeing people being better pilots than you? You got PTSD because the sight of other people being successful is stressing you?

Awesome!!!!! Super rare PTSD accusation trifecta is now in play.

Daddy's looking for a hat trick

[The6thMessenger]

OmniFail, on 14 September 2017 - 04:08 AM, said:

Awesome!!!!! Super rare PTSD accusation trifecta is now in play.

Daddy's looking for a hat trick

If you actually read all his responses, it's really just about him being afraid and ****.

His entire argument against my proposal is the irrational fear of the "LRM people" being "bullied" more. "Bullied" with quotation marks because he feels people bragging their good scores is bullying, likewise anything that makes him feel bad such as not feeling adequate, threatened by his fellow pilots' successes -- that is not how we define bullying traditionally.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 14 September 2017 - 05:29 AM.

[OmniFail]

I personally lurm just to make the haters mad. It makes me feel good about myself. And while my numbers are not godly I feel pretty comfortable with them.

[Thorqemada]

When i do 250 to 300 damage i usually have a kill, sometimes its a Solo-Kill, sometimes a Finisher, sometimes a Kill + a KMDD and sometimes no Kill at all but Assists - though round about every 250 to 300 damage i manage to kill something.


Watched a Stream today and a Player in an Assault (Quad PPC) did almost 1700 damage and if i have it seen right no kill nor Amorsharing - even a Lurmboat would have done better - in this case it for sure is very inefficient!

PS: I like to Lurm bcs it is fun to me to use Lurm in the way i do as Terrorweapon that inflicts the Weakminded with Fear and the Tryhards with Anger - TERROR UPON YOU! MUHAHAHA!

Edited by Thorqemada, 14 September 2017 - 08:55 AM.

[Vellron2005]

The6thMessenger, on 14 September 2017 - 05:05 AM, said:

If you actually read all his responses, it's really just about him being afraid and ****.

His entire argument against my proposal is the irrational fear of the "LRM people" being "bullied" more. "Bullied" with quotation marks because he feels people bragging their good scores is bullying, likewise anything that makes him feel bad such as not feeling adequate, threatened by his fellow pilots' successes -- that is not how we define bullying traditionally.

This post, as well as the previous one, is akin to gloating and shouting "I've won, I've won!" when the other person walked away because they were tired of trying to explain things to a brick wall.. so..

yeah..

sure..

you're right, and I'm wrong, and whatever makes you feel better..

Here's a suggestion for you..

Make a new account, and go play a LRM boat.. and see how people treat you.. or stick to your guns and mightier than thou attitude of being the only one who's right, and the ones that don't agree with you must need therapy..

I've spoken my mind, I've stated my case, and people can agree with me or not.. I'm done with this topic.