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[Shadowomega1]

There is also ways to ban hardware ID, as even Hkey banning wouldn't hold up as well.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

^^
I think that would be difficult. Do you remember when, was it Pentium III, had unique hardware ID function? It caused quite a fuss, and that was before internet was so common and all this ******** "mah electronic privvacy" you have nowadays.

Technically it's trivial for most software to probe certain things to make nearly unique hardware fingerprint, but the legal side is entirely different thing.

[Damnedtroll]

Team kill and intentional team kill are two different things...

Tried new build this week based on sustained fire and not alpha strike. Got a couple game with one team kill because suicidal light and medium just pop in front of my battlemech at full speed when I'm delivering a friggin continuous stream of mrm, lmg and rotary canon on an enemy. The result is that he explode in less than 1 sec (probably all cored red) and start to argue that i'm a team killer...

Lots of time in these situation i deliver less than 10pts in friendly damage at the end of the game. Got killed a few times doing the same in medium mech. You know Sh*t happen...

But have seen some dude firing and poking ally to start a brawl a couple of times too... or doing an alpha at point blank range on a light just to see what happen.

Edited by Damnedtroll, 10 September 2017 - 05:42 PM.

[Shard Phoenix]

Damnedtroll, on 10 September 2017 - 03:05 PM, said:

Team kill and intentional team kill are two different things...

Tried new build this week based on sustained fire and not alpha strike. Got a couple game with one team kill because suicidal light and medium just pop in front of my battlemech at full speed when I'm delivering a friggin continuous stream of mrm, lmg and rotary canon on an enemy. The result is that he explode in less than 1 sec (probably all cored red) and start to argue that i'm a team killer...

Lots of time in these situation i deliver less than 10pts in friendly damage at the end of the game. Got killed a few times doing the same in medium mech. You know Sh*t happen...

But have seen some dude firing and poking ally to start a brawl a couple of times too... or doing an alpha at point blank range on a light just to see what happen.

Was just in a game with the Pilot we can't "NameAndShame" (The one this thread was started about), and what he does is by no means unintentional. He deliberately TK's while being extremely obnoxious over VOIP.
A shining example of why it's too bad PGI is overall powerless to do anything about him and his ilk.

[Damnedtroll]

Shard Phoenix, on 10 September 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

Was just in a game with the Pilot we can't "NameAndShame" (The one this thread was started about), and what he does is by no means unintentional. He deliberately TK's while being extremely obnoxious over VOIP.
A shining example of why it's too bad PGI is overall powerless to do anything about him and his ilk.

Ok, that's bad...

[Christophe Ivanov]

Just 30 min ago, not one, but TWO team killers on one match. One on each team and they both have been reported. I was one of the victims and one of the team killers was in a Kodiak mech. Hard to believe they are 5 year olds in conduct. and this was intentional killing. NOT by accident.

Edited by Christophe Ivanov, 10 September 2017 - 06:20 PM.

[Captain Polux]

McValium, on 10 September 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

[mod]I get this is a very annoying topic, but please refrain from naming and shaming or giving instructions. [/mod]

Dude, really? Calling out an ******** is not "shaming". Jesus ******* Christ.

[Shadowomega1]

ThoseWhoFearTomorrow, on 10 September 2017 - 06:25 PM, said:

Dude, really? Calling out an ******** is not "shaming". Jesus ******* Christ.

However, it is in the terms of service that you had to agree to on the forums.

Either use the in game system for tking(remember though the staff won't be in till monday), or pm/tweet someone that can actually do something about it.

[Arnie1808]

Lorcryst NySell, on 10 September 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

Most probably display lag, I see that quite often, with "normal" players.

That ... creature ... bragged on Facebook about having several hundred spare email accounts already created ready to register new MWO accounts and having written a script to speed up logon process.

There's really nothing we can do about "it".

"It" gets high by ruining other people's fun.

You retaliate ? You get a penalty, and since you're now under restriction, your fun is ruined and he "wins".

You name and shame "it" ? "It" gets attention, and even more high.

It's current account gets banned, or permabanned ? Plenty more emails left to start again.

IP gets banned ? It takes a couple of minutes following Windows integrated tutorial to setup a VPN and change your IP address.

In a Free To Play game with anonimity and no real consequences, nothing can stop "it".

I don't understand the mentality of those ... creatures ... that get their jollies with that kind of behaviour, but I'm not a sociopath.

In Real Life, we find that behaviour so abhorrent that we usually lock away such creatures in psychiatric wards or prisons, or maybe try to medicate them to make them conform to society's standards if we feel kind, but on the Internet ...

Thanx that clears that suspicion up thought "it" had managed to do something so his name didn't appear also I know what your saying about the internet and yes it's a shame there is no internet electric chair

[Kroete]

Just ignore him and play normal,
it will be a fast match and then just start a new match.

If a poor guy needs that, ill spare a few seconds for him,
its still cheaper then giving a hobo some coin.

And i have done my good deed today.

Edited by Kroete, 11 September 2017 - 02:59 AM.

[Arnie1808]

It's a little different when your trying to complete an event with limited spare time!
Maybe they should start compensating you more if you are damaged A LOT by said scum and keep it normal for accidental team deaths.

[Brain Cancer]

Ignoring people like this generally leads to a trail of dead friendlies, as they're going to shoot blues until killed.

Worse, a smart enemy team may do the ignoring instead, leading to your team's swift and merciless destruction.

[Rick T Dangerous]

Had a match yesterday where my mech was pretty worn down, I stood beside a gate and fired at a guy. Suddenly the reds started to push in. A teammate accidentaly hit me and I died. Some one in my team wrote "report" to which I replied "No". I could have ejected. I should have ejected. I risked my teammate to get a TK, so his TK was essentially my fault. Stuff like that happens.

On the other hand, it shouldn't be hard to change the penalty system a bit. When a player does continuous damage spread over some time (be it just 10 or 15 seconds) to a teammate, but less to no damage at all to enemy mechs while the TD piles up, and it ends in the blue target getting killed, then the perp is intentionally TKing that dude. Happens once, 10 or 20 minutes delay for next match. Happens again, 24 hours. Should it happen again, four or five years.

[Kroete]

Every post against or about that kind of people is wanking material for them.

Just ignore them or say them thats ok, he can kill you in a game if he dont torment puppies instead.
Thats how you revome the fun of people like that, give him no attention or joke about him.

Its like miley showing her mumu and noone is looking ...

Edited by Kroete, 11 September 2017 - 03:11 AM.

[Rick T Dangerous]

Brain Cancer, on 11 September 2017 - 03:06 AM, said:

Ignoring people like this generally leads to a trail of dead friendlies, as they're going to shoot blues until killed.

Worse, a smart enemy team may do the ignoring instead, leading to your team's swift and merciless destruction.

That ain't smart. Let the teamkiller steal all the kills? A smart enemy team calls truce and takes care of the problem. A smart team with such a TKing idiot accepts the truce and lets the reds kill the idiot. After that, let timer run down for one minute and form up to get a good game going.

[Killian De Morte]

One way to combat the multi-account troll would be for you to have to register a valid credit card.

I know this would ring alarm bells for some - but with a tick box to say "never charge my card" would be OK.
Also never save the full card number once verified and hashed.

Then PGI could ban the card ( and associated accounts )

Setting up an alternative email address is childs play and can be automated to create thousands - but setting up credit cards just to troll - I dont think so.

[Lorcryst NySell]

Killian De Morte, on 11 September 2017 - 04:01 AM, said:

One way to combat the multi-account troll would be for you to have to register a valid credit card.

I know this would ring alarm bells for some - but with a tick box to say "never charge my card" would be OK.
Also never save the full card number once verified and hashed.

Then PGI could ban the card ( and associated accounts )

Setting up an alternative email address is childs play and can be automated to create thousands - but setting up credit cards just to troll - I dont think so.

Well, I like that idea ... I've always preferred subscriptions over Free To Play ... but I don't think it's even remotely envisageable with the current crowd of players ...

I've already seen many threads asking for refunds for things that were never bought in the first place in a F2P game, so while forcing people to register a CC would curb the most horrible abuse, I think we'd see a sea of pitchforks and torches if that idea approached PGI's HQ within 50 kilometers ...

[TWIAFU]

Braek, on 10 September 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

So I keep ending up in matches with [Redacted] and others that have the same name scheme. They are nothing but team killers that rack up two or more kills on their own allies.
Why is it that I am limited on the number of times I can report them for taking away the other 20-23 players enjoyment of the game, but they seem to just be in every other match I play (yes, I have run into them every other match this morning)

Sorry about the rant, but I am just curious how the reporting works.

Don't worry all will be better under 8v8.

Right?

LOL

[InvictusLee]

Tkers essentially never get punished. And it sucks because in that instance, in that game, your team is down, one or two or five mechs against a team of 12 fresh mechs. Hell. I feel as if a team with a TKer somehow comes around and pulls off a win, that they should be given bigger cbill awards automatically or a trophy or something...

[ingramli]

Ok so it is my (opponent') turn.........i guess it is time for PGI to fix it....limiting the registration of new accounts by using paid email address, or charge a modest fee for registration of new account......it is certainly a serious issue now.

Edited by ingramli, 11 September 2017 - 07:28 AM.