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[chucklesMuch]

kesmai, on 11 September 2017 - 02:07 AM, said:

They also suffer from geriatric movement syndrome.

KEK... well many assaults do... so Cyclopes then...

[VXJaeger]

Mauler MAL-1R, most cost-effective if you seek versatility.
Dual-Gauss/HeavyGauss, quad-UAC5, double-AC20, lurmboat (abuse of assault IMHO) and then some weird builds:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ee8bccb5db7d3cf

[chucklesMuch]

HellJumper, on 11 September 2017 - 02:06 AM, said:

but getting a mauler is not cost effective is it?..

the standard pack costs $20 and i can get 3 mechs (lets say cyclops)

how much will it cost to get those three maulers?? they are for cbills and MC right?

Its cost effective if you have the cbills and mech bays... they will also need lots of cbill upgrades. Not so much if you are planning on spending $$ then no they aren't cheap as you need to buy all the other resistance mechs in that pack first.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Look like it comes down to Victor vs Cyclops.

The only Zeus with the hardpoints you want (2B/2M) is the ZEU-9S2, but it has LAAs so it can't fit 2x UAC5.

The Victors (VTR-9B & VTR-9S) can pull off 2x UAC5 + 2 MRM10s + ammo and still go 71kph with a few tons and slots to spare. However, they can't fit 2x RAC5s.

The Cyclops (CP-11-A-DC & CP-11-P) can fit 2x RAC5s in the STs, however this means taking a STD engine and once you add in 2x MRM10s + ammo, you're going no faster than 63kph.

Personally, I'd get the Cyclops CP-11-A-DC to suit your needs, though I prefer the Zeus as a chassis for the ASRM18 DOOMFIST

[Lykaon]

HellJumper, on 11 September 2017 - 01:05 AM, said:

Hello

I am planning to purchase an IS assault mech (maybe a pack) so need to know which one would you recommend and why.

I just have few requirements for it thought

It should have some decent speed, i dont want another 55kph assault (already got atlases and battlemaster and king crab for it)

it needs to have the capability of following weapons system atleast.

2 X ballistic (minimum 2 uac5 to carry or rotary ac5)
2X missile (srm 6s or mrm10)


so which assault to get??

i was looking at the cyclops and the highlaner 2C (not sure about the speed of this one)

With those parameters you have one actual option

CP-11 A-DC Cyclops the following will fit...

350 LFE
Endo Steel
2 UAC5
3 ASRM6

Base speed is 63 kph without tweak

Highlander IIc chassis max engine is 325 rating that's a 58.5 kph without tweak and of course no RACs or MRMs and the Ballistics are in the arm the IIC-C has 2 ballistic hardpoints and the soon to be released Highlander IIc hero has a side torso Ballistic in addition to the RA ballistic.

Edited by Lykaon, 11 September 2017 - 02:48 AM.

[El Bandito]

HellJumper, on 11 September 2017 - 02:06 AM, said:

but getting a mauler is not cost effective is it?..

the standard pack costs $20 and i can get 3 mechs (lets say cyclops)

how much will it cost to get those three maulers?? they are for cbills and MC right?

You will not get the best Dakka Cyclops with $20, cause it doesn't come with standard pack. You need to spend either $35 to get the Cyclops hero+ 3 basic variants, or spend 6750 MC to get the hero only--which is the equivalent of $33. You can of course wait for a hero sale.

OR you can just shush and buy the Mauler-MX90 for C-Bills.

Edited by El Bandito, 11 September 2017 - 04:23 AM.

[Athom83]

Highlander 733C, Cyclops 11-A-DC, and the Atlas D are all decent choices as per your requirements. I have verious different loadouts for all of them, but what I run on each most is; Atlas: Rac5 + Rac2 + 2 MRMs (20 and/or 30), Cyclops: UAC/20 + SRM22a, Highlander: AC/20 + SRM18a + 2 ERML. Sometimes I swap things around to run UAC/5s, LB-10s, and other various loadouts. The Tankiest of those 3 is the Atlas by far, and the most damaging is usually the Cyclops, while the Highlander is the most mobile.

[HellJumper]

ok and what about the Boars head???
any point in getting that? i currently have the Founders Atlas and the Atlas L (the loyalty one)

[El Bandito]

HellJumper, on 11 September 2017 - 06:17 AM, said:

ok and what about the Boars head???
any point in getting that? i currently have the Founders Atlas and the Atlas L (the loyalty one)

Nope. Boar's Head is not good. Heck, Atlas in general is now pretty meh, due to the engine desync nerf.

Edited by El Bandito, 11 September 2017 - 06:26 AM.

[Roadbuster]

Want to be more mobile? Victor and Zeus are both good choices. You have to play them more like heavy mechs, even though they can take a beating.
Highlander has low agility. Cyclops and Mauler are in the middle and solid mechs too.


Btw. why is it always Mauler MX90? 6 ballistic hardpoints are too much. It's only good for a few niche builds.

Edited by Roadbuster, 11 September 2017 - 06:45 AM.

[SeventhSL]

Battle Master!!!!! Because they are fantastic.

[CFC Conky]

I picked up the Cyclops during the recent vs sale and I'm happy with my purchase.

The Sleipnir with two lb20x shotguns is a hoot.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 11 September 2017 - 07:52 AM.

[- World Eater -]

The Highlander is a solid choice. The Heavy Metal is probably one of my favorite mechs (I know, I know, it's not "good" or "meta").

[Dogstar]

HellJumper, on 11 September 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

ya but i am stuck with cbills currently and cant go for higher engine

Assaults are a bad choice when you are limited on funds

[Athom83]

HellJumper, on 11 September 2017 - 06:17 AM, said:

ok and what about the Boars head???
any point in getting that? i currently have the Founders Atlas and the Atlas L (the loyalty one)

Pretty much any build you could do in that you can do with the Cyclops 10-Z.

[sycocys]

Maulers (most would be in your ballpark)

Battlemaster - 3M or Hellslinger

Black Knights - (iirc they didn't get jacked too hard on the speed end)

[Gas Guzzler]

You should not get an IS assault and instead get a Marauder-IIC, a Supernova-1, or a Deathstrike (or Mad Cat Mk. II-1)

[Escef]

Thorqemada, on 11 September 2017 - 01:52 AM, said:

The Battlemaster has nice high Hardpoints which make somewhat up for a bad barndoor shape and can go almost 70 kph afair - so if you peek over hills that is a quite good choice.

With max engine and 5 Speed Tweaks it can do about 82. A 400XL and endo steel with near max armor still leaves you with around 30 tons of payload for weapons and heat sinks. 3x(ER)LL and 4xML and a ludicrous crapton of double sinks tends to work well enough. It was better before the BattleMasters became part of the meta, because people didn't know what kind of engine to expect, so they defaulted to aiming center mass. After they became part of the meta a lot of people started focusing a side torso if they could, because there was about a 50/50 chance the build ran an XL.

As for the OP's criteria of 2M/2B + top speed of 55+ kph, I think the way to go is with the Victor (9B, 9S, or DragonSlayer) or Zeus (9S2). The Cyclops (11-A, 11-A-DC, or 11-P) is also a solid option. I've never used the Victor, so I can't comment on it too heavily. I have used both the Zeus and Cyclops, and I've enjoyed the Zeus more (probably just a personal preference thing, really, but given that the Zeus has its ballistics and missiles in the arms for maximum field of fire that might be the way to go).

[Escef]

HellJumper, on 11 September 2017 - 06:17 AM, said:

ok and what about the Boars head???
any point in getting that? i currently have the Founders Atlas and the Atlas L (the loyalty one)

The Loyalty Atlas is the AS7-S(L). The thing is a beast. As for the Boar's Head, the only trick it seems ok at is 400XL & 6xLL. First time I saw it I thought it was going to be a fail mech, but it performed more than well enough to change my mind. (Much like the stock weapons in the Nova Prime, you play it like a boxer. Alternate left and right arms, do a lot of bobbing and weaving while cooling off.)

[Daurock]

Roadbuster, on 11 September 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

Btw. why is it always Mauler MX90? 6 ballistic hardpoints are too much. It's only good for a few niche builds.

I never understood the unconditional love for the MX90 either.  Apart from the occasional AC-2 builds, i've found other variants to be more varied, and more useful.  Currently, my favorite is the out of favor -2P variant, where I load up the torso with a pair of UAC-10s, stuff the arms with medium lasers and go to town.