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[Racerxintegra2k]

Friendly Mechlab contest .... present your best Streak Crow imitation for the Innersphere.

Below i will link to a streak crow build for reference. Try and Get as close as you can to speed/firepower/range/armor/ammo.


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...003adbe42922711

PS: I forgot to adjust armor from stock allocations to front load it. No big deal.

Edited by Racerxintegra2k, 11 September 2017 - 06:55 AM.

[Brain Cancer]

IS versions are going to be considerably weaker if you're trying for the same number of tubes, and that's the critical issue for a Streakboat.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...401ff9ed8148913

[Bud Crue]

Brain Cancer, on 11 September 2017 - 07:06 AM, said:

IS versions are going to be considerably weaker if you're trying for the same number of tubes, and that's the critical issue for a Streakboat.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...401ff9ed8148913

Whelp, that was a quick contest.
Kintaro is pretty much the best choice for this on the IS side. Sure you can do a Catapult or an Archer for more tubes, but then you are getting away from the whole crow at 55 tons aspect.

Edited by Bud Crue, 11 September 2017 - 07:10 AM.

[FantasticMrDark]

Kind of hard to make a SkillCrow when IS SSRM6 weigh 1.5 more tons for no real reason

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b1a364683bb8f8c

[Brain Cancer]

You can do the same thing with a Bushwhacker as well, of course. That does resemble a Stormcrow more, though it's overkill on missile hardpoints and lacks the quirks like cooldown (especially for Streaks) and lower heat.

[Dark Wooki33 IIC]

Brain Cancer, on 11 September 2017 - 07:06 AM, said:

IS versions are going to be considerably weaker if you're trying for the same number of tubes

Only alpha is weaker ...

DPS of an IS SSRM 6 launcher is 3 while the CLAN launcher has only a dps of 2.
The spread should be tighter too, but i have doubts that this really matters.

Actual even the IS SSRM 4 has an dps of 2.67 ...

Edited by Dark Wooki33 IIC, 11 September 2017 - 08:15 AM.

[Bigbacon]

who needs streak crow when you can have ATMCrow

Pro version: do it with artemis

Edited by Bigbacon, 11 September 2017 - 08:14 AM.

[Racerxintegra2k]

Dark Wooki33 IIC, on 11 September 2017 - 08:12 AM, said:

Only alpha is weaker ...

DPS of an IS SSRM 6 launcher is 3 while the CLAN launcher has only a dps of 2.
The spread should be tighter too, but i have doubts that this really matters.

Actual even the IS SSRM 4 has an dps of 2.67 ...

What do you say to the range advantage 360 vs 270 ? Also stormcrow can move 100+ kph best innersphere can get to is 80 ? Cant chase down lights with that.

[Brain Cancer]

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Only alpha is weaker ...

Which if you're hunting lights, you don't tend to get the same shot twice in a row. Getting Streaked tends to spook most light pilots.

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DPS of an IS SSRM 6 launcher is 3 while the CLAN launcher has only a dps of 2.
The spread should be tighter too, but i have doubts that this really matters.

Streaks are bone-seeking, so spread doesn't actually matter.

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Actual even the IS SSRM 4 has an dps of 2.67 ...

Yeah, and my first thought was straight up going to SSRM4s, which gets you:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...72e9235d1d1b954

[Dark Wooki33 IIC]

Racerxintegra2k, on 11 September 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

What do you say to the range advantage 360 vs 270 ? Also stormcrow can move 100+ kph best innersphere can get to is 80 ? Cant chase down lights with that.

You can build kintaros and bushwackers that go 100kph, while mounting 5 ssrm 4.

The range and tonnage thing is simply personal preference, do you want higher dps or more range+alpha.

[Racerxintegra2k]

This is the closest i can get all around to a Streak Crow ... except you die if you lose a torso,does less alpha damage,has less armor, is slower, pathetic range and less ammo.


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...90dac7db30c1f86

Edited by Racerxintegra2k, 11 September 2017 - 08:26 AM.

[Dark Wooki33 IIC]

Brain Cancer, on 11 September 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...72e9235d1d1b954

You dont need full head armor or armor on the dead arm.
A is xl mech probably doesnt need more then 5 tons of ammo too.
Tag(Atleast in FP, until we get interfactions battles.) and dhs could also changed for a bigger engine and some coolshots.
(But thats up to personal taste.)

[Racerxintegra2k]

Dark Wooki33 IIC, on 11 September 2017 - 08:32 AM, said:

You dont need full head armor or armor on the dead arm.
A is xl mech probably doesnt need more then 5 tons of ammo too.
Tag(Atleast in FP, until we get interfactions battles.) and dhs could also changed for a bigger engine and some coolshots.
(But thats up to personal taste.)

Does it come anywhere close to a streak crow after your changes ?

[Dark Wooki33 IIC]

Racerxintegra2k, on 11 September 2017 - 08:33 AM, said:

Does it come anywhere close to a streak crow after your changes ?

Same speed, slightly higher sustained dps, 1 ton less ammo.


But a decently played srm bomber will still always be better then a skillbuild on the same mech.

And btw y would anyone try to mimic a mech build anyways, all mechs have different optimal loadout.

Edited by Dark Wooki33 IIC, 11 September 2017 - 08:45 AM.

[Dogstar]

I'm thinking that as so many light mechs have ECM you'd really want a BAP? What do you guys think?

[Dark Wooki33 IIC]

Dogstar, on 11 September 2017 - 08:40 AM, said:

I'm thinking that as so many light mechs have ECM you'd really want a BAP? What do you guys think?

Yeah nice try, if you would have looked up the builds ... all of them have a bap ... still nice try.

[Curccu]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...c94fd0010bca3e6
(stock full armor, allocate them as you like)

Not same alpha as the StreakCrow but better DPS, faster and more durable because quirks.

(I would also fix your original crow this much http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e8908d425a13327 , it's cool to have weapons that you can aim also without losing too much of them streaks.)

[HoldFast-TheDreadTier5PirateLord]

Slower, Tankier, Bushwackerier. Not that I think this is a good build (Srm's are just better if you can aim).

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0cb2530987fb848

Change ammo, armor distribution, engine size, heat sinks ect. to taste.

[Dogstar]

Dark Wooki33 IIC, on 11 September 2017 - 08:44 AM, said:

Yeah nice try, if you would have looked up the builds ... all of them have a bap ... still nice try.

Well I didn't have time to look them all up and the couple I did I didn't notice the BAP

[Athom83]

You can do the full 6 SSRM6s with the Bushwacker, but it is slower, less heat efficent, and dies from ST loss. It does however have a higher firepower and max DPS due to IS (S)SRMs having a .15 higher damage per missile. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...adf690054c3a96a

Doing it with SSRM4s seems to be the best choice to come close to the Skillcrow.

However, if you increase your weight to 65 tons, then you can definitely do it in a Catapult. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b27bdc616b628a0

Edited by Athom83, 11 September 2017 - 09:28 AM.