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[Kuaron]

Since we are making new threads for some of the single changes each...

Lifting the ghost heat limit from 2 to 3 does be a buff, but still:
Do you consider 3 RAC2 (24 t, ~17.5 DPS => 0.73 DPS/t) a viable alternative to 2 RAC5 (20 t, ~22 DPS => 1.09 DPS/t)?
Do the soft stats like velocity and that little more range make up for the difference?
Or are there more soft stats I am forgetting about?

[Bombast]

No. The RAC/2s don't do enough damage, their equipping costs are too high compared to the RAC/5s, and all the soft stats really do is improve long range accuracy, where neither of the RACs perform particularly well.

The buff does help, though. Just not enough.

[The Lighthouse]

They are still terrible weapons and you should not even bother bringing them most of the time.

[Bombast]

Hey, does PGI know the CN9-AH's ballistic fist gets jacked up when you put three RACs in it?

[Khobai]

x3 RAC2s should outdps x2 RAC5s because they weigh significantly more and the because extra range doesnt really mean anything since RACs arnt good poking weapons.

RAC2s should do more like 8 dps instead of only 5.8

Then I might use them

Edited by Khobai, 18 September 2017 - 10:55 PM.

[N0ni]

If i were able to fire 3 RAC/2s while firing 1 RAC/5 without ghost heat, then i'll consider. Until then, it's better just to use two 5s.

[Juodas Varnas]

They're garbage and they're way too tiny!
They should be the size of RAC5s and RAC5s should be BIGGER!

[The6thMessenger]

Khobai, on 18 September 2017 - 10:51 PM, said:

x3 RAC2s should outdps x2 RAC5s because they weigh significantly more and the because extra range doesnt really mean anything since RACs arnt good poking weapons.

RAC2s should do more like 8 dps instead of only 5.8

Eh, 7.275 DPS would work well, and would equate to 3 RAC2 to 2 RAC5.

The thing is that 3x RAC2 HAS the extra range whether you like it or not, so it comes at a factor why the 3x RAC2 should only do equal to that of 2x RAC5. 4 tons might be a lot, but percentage wise that's just +25% of 20 - 24 tons, versus 12 to 16 tons that constitutes +33.3334%.

[Bohxim]

As much as I hate rac (using and receiving), think some might use the rac2 because they can run 3 in lower actuated arms while you can't event run 2 rac5 in non actuated arms

[kapusta11]

Great, now I can make 3 RAC2 4 ERML Marauder with LFE, which is inferior to 2 RAC5 4 ERML Marauder with STD engine, which is inferior to everything else.

Edited by kapusta11, 19 September 2017 - 12:55 AM.

[The6thMessenger]

Well, at least i get to run my King Crab dream build better now: 4x RAC2.

Assuming that 4 RAC2 with GH penalty would be at 10.4 HPS.

[Mercarryn]

The6thMessenger, on 19 September 2017 - 01:07 AM, said:

Well, at least i get to run my King Crab dream build better now: 4x RAC2.

Assuming that 4 RAC2 with GH penalty would be at 10.4 HPS.

Only 4?

KGC-000

Because I can....

[Athom83]

3 RAC/2 is far cooler than 2 RAC/5.

Also, I prefer 1 RAC/5 paired with 1 RAC/2 over either option, but I'm weird like that.

[MechaBattler]

I was already using 3xRAC2 and found them to be more versatile than 2xRAC5. And now they'll be even cooler. Allowing for more sustain up till jamming. I find they're more reliable to hit with at medium distance. More ideal for harassing from cover. 2xRAC5 have more damage. I just find the RAC2s to be more consistent. I hope they keep tweaking them.

[Christophe Ivanov]

In my opinion, the RAC2's are good for Medium and Heavy mechs and any lights that can carry one or two. The RAC5's are my preference for my Assaults, hence why my Anni is equipped with RAC5's. My marauder is equipped with one RAC5 and does pretty good.

[Kuaron]

MechaBattler, on 19 September 2017 - 10:20 AM, said:

I was already using 3xRAC2 and found them to be more versatile than 2xRAC5. And now they'll be even cooler. Allowing for more sustain up till jamming. I find they're more reliable to hit with at medium distance. More ideal for harassing from cover. 2xRAC5 have more damage. I just find the RAC2s to be more consistent. I hope they keep tweaking them.

Because of velocity or why?

[MechaBattler]

Velocity and I believe it has a shorter spin up time. Anything that's moving at more than a crawl is going to be hard to get consistent damage on especially if there's distance. The velocity creates more reliable harassment over medium distance. Especially if you have velocity quirks on top of skill tree quirks. Like the Rifleman with the fat velocity quirks.

[Bombast]

Just tested them out in the grounds. They are insanely cool - Pretty much impossible to overheat just firing the three.

You can really feel the damage difference though.

[MechaBattler]

Now I'm tempted to do 4. >.>