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[Kerint96]

Hello guys ! What u think about this build for MAD-3R ?


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...08c396b13d9a3c9


I tried it and its work really well. From my experience this build masacre every medium/light mech and greater part of heavy mechs in 1v1 fights. Only poblem is that if u wont take care about heat it will really fast overheat. I had even chance to win fight with kodiak but prolly that was lrm build so i would not be sure this build would have chance to win with assaults but should out put some good dmg before u would die.
I'm openned for any opinions about it .

[panzer1b]

Not a bad build if you really like RACs, but id honestly run that build on the bushwanker since its got better geometry and its one of few mechs that can actually stare right at someone and not instantly get its ST/CT cored out (with RACs you kinda need to stare alot), at least aslong as you move side to side a little bit (so that someone cant just click on your center of mass and dump 100% into 1 hitbox).

Now im not saying you cant do effective RAC maraders (ive seen alot of them recently, both dual5 and trip2), but i have personally had much better results running various UACs (ive been able to make everything from 2s to 20s work) with like 2 ERLL 2 ERML (swap ERLLs for ERML if you want more speed or tonnage for UACs), or the same energy with gauss rifles (HGR actually works very well on this mech despite the major issues with mounting it). If you arent a fan of lasers, you can do the older meta build of like 2 UAC5 and 2 PPC as well which ive seen work well (its just a little awkward to use and sucks against super agile targets).

[Xim Prime]

You should be instadestroyed if the enemy hits you on the center torso...

[Nerd Incognito]

I've tried almost that exact build, and abandoned it in favour of a UAC20 build. As others have noted, you've really got to stare people down with the RACs, and I'm not sure the Marauder is the mech to do that in.

That said, if it's working for you, it doesn't matter much what anyone else thinks.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Xim Prime, on 29 September 2017 - 04:22 AM, said:

You should be instadestroyed if the enemy hits you on the center torso...

He's more likely than not to be absolutely fine. Ammo gets used up from the CT before the legs, so by the time his CT armor is ripped off he is likely to have used it all up already. Besides that ammo only has a 10% chance to actually blow up.

[Tesunie]

panzer1b, on 23 September 2017 - 05:55 PM, said:

Now im not saying you cant do effective RAC maraders (ive seen alot of them recently, both dual5 and trip2), but i have personally had much better results running various UACs (ive been able to make everything from 2s to 20s work) with like 2 ERLL 2 ERML

I would like to just comment that I've had very good luck with two LLs and two ERMLs (a set of each in each arm), paired with an (U)AC10. They all share close to the same range, so if one weapon can hit, they all can. With a light engine on it and about 2.5 tons of ammo, it's been doing well.

I know for the ballistics challenge, I altered my base build and could place nearly any AC on it with minimal changes to heat scale. Only the LBs and the RACs did I have to revert to the Std engines again and MLs. On that note, I found a RAC2 and RAC5 to be a neat combo, but dual RAC5s were great to use as well if you knew how to prime the RACs before rounding a corner.

Kerint96, on 22 September 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

Hello guys ! What u think about this build for MAD-3R ?


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...08c396b13d9a3c9


I tried it and its work really well. From my experience this build masacre every medium/light mech and greater part of heavy mechs in 1v1 fights. Only poblem is that if u wont take care about heat it will really fast overheat. I had even chance to win fight with kodiak but prolly that was lrm build so i would not be sure this build would have chance to win with assaults but should out put some good dmg before u would die.
I'm openned for any opinions about it .

Overall, my only suggestion might be to lower the amount of ammo and get more heat sinks in if possible (or you feel comfortable with it). If course, that's if you are finding you are overheating too quickly and dieing with ammo still left over. A ton or two less ammo may be fine. You may also just need to control those lasers a bit more, and rely on the RACs for most of your damage and the lasers for burst damage when you are running cooler.

I personally still like my 2 LLs, 2 ERMLs and AC10 build. But that's me and my preference to mid ranged combat.

[jss78]

You can still add light ferro and that'll give you a bit of tonnage to add arm/leg armour.

If you like RAC/5's, you might be better off with a 'mech where running two of them doesn't force you to run STD engine, like in this case.

For example in a Jager you can easily run 2xRAC/5 with an LFE and various secondary armaments.

[Tesunie]

jss78, on 29 September 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

You can still add light ferro and that'll give you a bit of tonnage to add arm/leg armour.

If you like RAC/5's, you might be better off with a 'mech where running two of them doesn't force you to run STD engine, like in this case.

For example in a Jager you can easily run 2xRAC/5 with an LFE and various secondary armaments.

This could be an alternative concept that covers your issues. Maxed out the armor, got a LFE in it, more heat sinks and upgraded the MLs to ERMLs. If more ammo is desired, a heat sink or two could be removed for it...

Edit: Oh, and faster too.

Edited by Tesunie, 29 September 2017 - 11:58 AM.

[krevLL]

I had a hard time with dual RAC5s on my 5M, but again, that came down to the required face tanking. That and the stream of AC rounds attracted a lot of unwanted attention. My playstyle is more to get close and slug it out, which RACs are not ideal for, though.

It's fun as hell when it works, though. I use a single RAC5 on my Shadow Hawk.

[Stf Sgt Marblez]

I really want to like Rac 5s, but the Ac 20 Dual Snub combo has been working wonders for me on my Mad-5m.

I still have a hard time justifying racs on anything that isn't a bushie.

Jm2c, YMMV

o7

Edited by Stf Sgt Marblez, 20 November 2017 - 08:25 PM.