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[InnerSphereNews]

Greetings MechWarriors!

We have reviewed the recent MC and C-Bill release dates associated with the pre-order packages and have performed a restructuring of the MC and C-Bill release dates.

In all cases, the MC and C-bill Dates have been moved to an earlier date. Some recent pre-orders release dates, MC dates, and C-Bill dates had been left as TBD in the original FAQs due to the fact they were lining up too far in the future, as you can see from the chart below.

We will be updating the pre-order FAQ'a Today to reflect these changes.

			Old Dates	New Dates		Old Dates	New Dates
Mech Pack	Release Date	Year	MC Date	MC Date	Year	C-Bill Date	C-Bill Date	Year
Hellspawn	Dec 12th	2017	Sept 4th	May 1st	2018	Oct 2nd	June 5th	2018
Thanatos	Nov 14th	2017	August 1st	April 3rd	2018	Sept 4th	May 1st	2018
Civll War: Escalation
Nightstar	Oct 17th	2017	July 4th	March 6th	2018	August 1st	April 3rd	2018
Nova Cat	Oct 17th	2017	June 6th	March 6th	2018	July 4th	April 3rd	2018
Arctic Wolf	Oct 17th	2017	May 2nd	Feb 6th	2018	June 6th	March 6th	2018
Osiris	Oct 17th	2017	April 4th	Feb 6th	2018	May 2nd	March 6th	2018
Clan IIC Heroes	Sept 19th	2017	Mar 6th	Jan 9th	2018	N/A	N/A
Clan Heroes 2 and 3	Aug 22nd	2017	Feb 6th	Jan 9th	2018	N/A	N/A
Civil War
Mad Cat MKII	July 18th	2017	Jan 9th	Dec 5th	2018	Feb 6th	Jan 9th	2018
Annihilator	July 18th	2017	Nov 7th	Nov 7th	2017	Dec 5th	Dec 5th	2017
Cougar	July 18th	2017	Oct 3rd	Oct 3rd	2017	Nov 7th	Nov 7th	2017
Uziel	July 18th	2017	Sept 5th	Sept 5th	2017	Oct 3rd	Oct 3rd	2017
Resistance Heroes	Jun 20th	2017	Dec 5th	Oct 3rd	2017	N/A	N/A

We also had members of the community point out some pricing errors in some recent 'Mech Releases. The new prices are listed below.

Name: MLX-G

C-Bill Price: 5,468,590

MC Price: 2,190

Sellback Price: 1,982,848

Name: ACH-E

C-Bill Price: 6,646,086

MC Price: 2,660

Sellback Price: 2,387,716

Name: IFR-P

C-Bill Price: 10,633,549

MC Price: 4,255

Sellback Price: 3,585,712

Name: SHC-H

C-Bill Price: 9,542,417

MC Price: 3,820

Sellback Price: 3,079,212

Name: MDD-H

C-Bill Price: 12,025,235

MC Price: 4,815

Sellback Price: 3,566,140

Name: EBJ-D

C-Bill Price: 12,732,809

MC Price: 5,095

Sellback Price: 3,960,756

Name: HBR-P

C-Bill Price: 12,604,973

MC Price: 5,045

Sellback Price: 3,960,756

Name: GAR-E

C-Bill Price: 15,844,170

MC Price: 6,340

Sellback Price: 5,226,448

Name: EXE-E

C-Bill Price: 18,703,317

MC Price: 7,485

Sellback Price: 6,161,228

[Appogee]

Nice move, thanks.

[suffocater]

I still don't get why mechs that get their first release at the same time, come out for MC and CB at different times. Why do I have to wait for my needed Cougar omnipods that I only own once longer, than for an additional Uziel. Or why do I have to wait even longer for doubling up on Annihilator versions or a second Deathstrike?

[DAYLEET]

Nine months waiting period for mc release and ten months for cbills was 100% insane. Four months for mc release and five months for cbills is still 40% insane. I guess you do whats best for business and if the majority put up with it all the more power to you. BUT wouldnt they put up with it too if the waiting period was one month like back in the days? How do i make a point of not liking your system if not by not preordering your stuff and if i dont preorder your stuff how do you know i would if the dates were better? Is this what you are trying to do here? The waiting time was so big that cutting it in half isnt helping much if thats your plan. Still not good enough for me.

I found out that the hype to buy mechs died easily after i waited and the brand_new_factor was out of the picture(i still dont own assassins or javelin and they are out for cbills ffs!).

and IM PISSED theres early adopter rewards instead of just rewards like back in the days. If it was one month period you wouldnt need to tell everyone if they dont buy the first month they can go #@ themselves. I bought the R2 pack after it was out mainly because of the rewards, put them in an early window and i would have skipped it. Guess how many pack ive bought since then... What exactly are you rewarding with that early reward? "oh hey you bought something at a time where you cant possibly know what you're buying, heres a ding to release some more endorphins"

I always felt strongly about this and the Hellspawn is making things worse for me right now. But i know that after the waiting period i wont even care. At least i learned something out of this, dont buy on impulse. If this is how its best for your business and you have numbers to prove it then good for you but its not working for me.

Edited by DAYLEET, 26 September 2017 - 06:58 PM.

[StonedDead]

The wait times for a mech to be released unless you buy the package when it's released are dumb. Especially if you're buying them with c-bills. This is THE biggest reason I barely play anymore. It's just not worth waiting months to get a mech I want. Trust me, I've spent all the real money on this I intend to, which is a heck of a lot more than I have spent on any other game ever, probably most of the games I have spent money on combined.

[A Man In A Can]

Thanks PGI. I appreciate your honesty and speed in correcting database errors. You just earned yourselves a few extra dollars.

[Brawler1986]

Bad move, this will hold me back even more to invest money into this game. Not worth waiting such a long time to get the early rewards. There are to many uncertainties, how will the mech look like, how wellplaced are the hardpoints. I've been disappointed so many times when a mech was being released that where good on paper.

[WiNNiep00h]

hm i extra bought the Artic Wolf because i didnt want to wait till may^^ february would have been ok.... can i still cancel my order?

[Brain Cancer]

Quote

Name: MLX-G

C-Bill Price: 5,468,590

MC Price: 2,190

Sellback Price: 1,982,848

So half off is 2,734,295 and it sells back for 1,982,848.

Does this mean it goes back into the sale bin since it no longer sells back for more than it's bought for?

[Akillius]

Thanks PGI for the heads up I appreciate the transparency.
I rarely look at the MC/CBill release dates cause Early Adopter has been the best option for me for a long time.
Ignore the 1% haters trash-talking about why they never spend cause they will never spend, besides theres that sulking-foot-stomping-fringe group in all games.
Anyways I'm honestly surprised PGI moved the dates forward so much, hope there's some relevant events planned for when those are released too... *hint*

[sciencevessel]

InnerSphereNews, on 26 September 2017 - 10:59 AM, said:

Greetings MechWarriors!



We have reviewed the recent MC and C-Bill release dates associated with the pre-order packages and have performed a restructuring of the MC and C-Bill release dates.
In all cases, the MC and C-bill Dates have been moved to an earlier date. Some recent pre-orders release dates, MC dates, and C-Bill dates had been left as TBD in the original FAQs due to the fact they were lining up too far in the future, as you can see from the chart below.



We will be updating the pre-order FAQ'a Today to reflect these changes.


Old Dates
New Dates
Old Dates
New Dates
Mech Pack
Release Date
Year
MC Date
MC Date
Year
C-Bill Date
C-Bill Date
Year
Hellspawn
Dec 12th
2017
Sept 4th
May 2nd
2018
Oct 2nd
July 4th
2018
Thanatos
Nov 14th
2017
August 1st
April 4th
2018
Sept 4th
May 2nd
2018
Civll War: Escalation
Nightstar
Oct 17th
2017
July 4th
March 6th
2018
August 1st
April 4th
2018
Nova Cat
Oct 17th
2017
June 6th
March 6th
2018
July 4th
April 4th
2018
Arctic Wolf
Oct 17th
2017
May 2nd
Feb 6th
2018
June 6th
March 6th
2018
Osiris
Oct 17th
2017
April 4th
Feb 6th
2018
May 2nd
March 6th
2018
Clan IIC Heroes
Sept 19th
2017
Mar 6th
Jan 9th
2018
N/A
N/A
Clan Heroes 2 and 3
Aug 22nd
2017
Feb 6th
Jan 9th
2018
N/A
N/A
Civil War
Mad Cat MKII
July 18th
2017
Jan 9th
Dec 5th
2018
Feb 6th
Jan 9th
2018
Annihalator
July 18th
2017
Nov 7th
Nov 7th
2017
Dec 5th
Dec 5th
2017
Cougar
July 18th
2017
Oct 3rd
Oct 3rd
2017
Nov 7th
Nov 7th
2017
Uziel
July 18th
2017
Sept 5th
Sept 5th
2017
Oct 3rd
Oct 3rd
2017
Resistance Heroes
Jun 20th
2017
Dec 5th
Oct 3rd
2017
N/A
N/A





We also had members of the community point out some pricing errors in some recent 'Mech Releases. The new prices are listed below.

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Name: MLX-G

C-Bill Price: 5,468,590

MC Price: 2,190

Sellback Price: 1,982,848





Name: ACH-E

C-Bill Price: 6,646,086

MC Price: 2,660

Sellback Price: 2,387,716





Name: IFR-P

C-Bill Price: 10,633,549

MC Price: 4,255

Sellback Price: 3,585,712





Name: SHC-H

C-Bill Price: 9,542,417

MC Price: 3,820

Sellback Price: 3,079,212





Name: MDD-H

C-Bill Price: 12,025,235

MC Price: 4,815

Sellback Price: 3,566,140





Name: EBJ-D

C-Bill Price: 12,732,809

MC Price: 5,095

Sellback Price: 3,960,756





Name: HBR-P

C-Bill Price: 12,604,973

MC Price: 5,045

Sellback Price: 3,960,756





Name: GAR-E

C-Bill Price: 15,844,170

MC Price: 6,340

Sellback Price: 5,226,448





Name: EXE-E

C-Bill Price: 18,703,317

MC Price: 7,485

Sellback Price: 6,161,228[/indent]

There will be perma ban due to using price error for make money?
I already earned over 100000000c-bills...
Your staff didn't said about being banned but I'm quite worrying about that.
Sorry for my bad english....

Edited by sciencevessel, 26 September 2017 - 08:20 PM.

[ShooteyMcShooterson]

Alright, who snitched?

[JonDoeIowa]

PGI,

I appreciate you adjusting the release schedule to be more exact and follow a formula for every release.

But can we also see an update to the releases in the ability to use Omnipods correctly.

With my purchase of the cougars, and their reinforcement pack I have access to only swap out pods on mechs for those from the base models, but I own the reinforcements. So even though I purchased these ahead of time, I am not allowed to put reinforcement pods on any of my mechs from the store. I can only purchase base models. Why is this setup this way? Why I can't I even strip the pods off a mech and put them on another during these months that I PAID to have access to these mechs. Please look at allowing anyone who paid for these packs to modify any of the mechs we purchased with any of the pods from the packs we purchased. All this has taught me is that don't order any Clan Omni's in the cash only phase cause I won't get the full use out of them till the Cbill release.

[Kaprylo]

sciencevessel, on 26 September 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

There will be perma ban due to using price error for make money?
I already earned over 100000000c-bills...
Your staff didn't said about being banned but I'm quite worrying about that.
Sorry for my bad english....

You should have your credits removed. That's would be fair. But it's really not good to use a bug like this to your advantage. Better be honest and report stuff like this. Clearly you know something like this is not intended,

[sciencevessel]

Kaprylo, on 27 September 2017 - 04:49 AM, said:

You should have your credits removed. That's would be fair. But it's really not good to use a bug like this to your advantage. Better be honest and report stuff like this. Clearly you know something like this is not intended,

Actually i had bad feeling after this... but i already bought some mechs.. so i gonna say to pgi to remove my cbills.

[Tier5 Kerensky]

sciencevessel, on 27 September 2017 - 05:36 AM, said:

Actually i had bad feeling after this... but i already bought some mechs.. so i gonna say to pgi to remove my cbills.

Don't sweat unless they annouce some penalties. It's not the same thing as cheating on comp play.

[Grayson Sortek]

Hey PGI, it's a step in the right direction... However, you still have a journey ahead of you.

One of the biggest complaints that I see, and agree with: You cut your early adopter rewards too early. You're asking your consumers to pre-order something that they have little information on, we don't even have a 3D rendering to go off of. Guys... This comes off as incredibly predatory, like you're a casino, and it doesn't help that you've been relying on nostalgia lately.

Do yourselves a favor and expand the early adopter rewards so that we can see what we are buying, if we like it then we are much more likely to spend $ on it. If we don't, then you have statistics to help you figure out what you are doing right/wrong. Hell, expand your early adopter rewards on the Marauder to be live now and see what happens.

[The Boneshaman]

i personally think after one month of coming out they should go to MC than the next month CB. hell even the second month would be OK.

[D V Devnull]

To those of you thinking you just "took one in the shorts from PGI", for once you've instead been blessed with an earlier release of things, not a later release. They did goof the detail of one spot in the release table, but if you think about that carefully, you realize what they meant and that you're not being [beep]ed over. Also, if you're wondering why they're staggering some releases, blame that lunatic of a person who handles game balance and still doesn't do it right. Like, geez, 40+ ways to counter an LRM? That's disgusting, and they're letting those Sniper-types who came from "Call Of Duty"-series/"Counter-Strike"-series/"Destiny"/"BattleField"-series/"Halo"-series/"TitanFall"/"Hawken"/etc. get away with not having to use cover. Heck, that's more ways than there are Hammers in a Hardware Store for a particular given job!

~D. V. "Anywho, pardon me while I stop ranting... I don't need to make a wall-of-text of this, right now." Devnull

[ShooteyMcShooterson]

Since the apparent exploit has been fixed, can someone explain what the exploit was?

I bought and sold a couple of the new Clan variants, just to participate in the leaderboard for them. I definitely got less when I sold them shortly after the contest was over, compared to what I bought them for. IIRC, I did get like half of my money back, instead of the usual lower ratio for a sold mech, but I certainly didn't profit from it. (The Shadow Cat and the Gargoyle)

How were people profiting from buying/selling mechs? Was there one particular mech that was glitched or something?