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[TheArisen]

What quirks, if any, should the escalation mechs get? What quirks do they need to be good and/or differentiate variants?
https://mwomercs.com...-war-escalation
Osiris
Arctic Wolf
Nova Cat
Nightstar

Edited by TheArisen, 27 September 2017 - 11:46 AM.

[Jackal Noble]

Artic Wolf - Gauss quirks
NightStar - Heavy Machine Gun quirks
Nova Cat - AMS quirks
Osiris - Flamer quirks

[Bombast]

I imagine the Nightstar is going to need mobility or armor quirks to compensate for its great, fat torso and its also fat arms.

The Nova Cat is going up against what, the Summoner? Its slower movement and larger pod space should differentiate it fine. Same goes for the Arctic Wolf (vs. the Viper).

No clue about the Osiris. It's 'Going Up' against the Javalin and Urbanmech, I guess - It's got ballistics instead of the Javelin's missiles (They meet in the middle with the energy variants), and the Urbanmech is its own thing. I'm sure it will need some quirks, like most IS mechs, but nothing to 'differentiate' it.

Edited by Bombast, 27 September 2017 - 01:21 PM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

OSR-3D
10% Missile cooldown
20% MG RoF

OSR-1V
-5% LRM heat gen
5% Missile cooldown

OSR-2V
20% MG RoF

NSR-9J
5% ERPPC velocity
-5% ERPPC heat gen

NSR-9FC
-10% ERPPC heat gen
-10% LBX spread

NSR-9S
-7% UAC jam chance
5% Medium Pulse Laser range

NSR-9P
15% Missile cooldown
-10% Missile heat gen

NSR-WP
-15% Streak SRM heat gen

ACW-1
-5% SRM6 heat gen

ACW-2
-5% Energy heat gen
10% Energy range

ACW-BK
10% Missile cooldown
20% MG RoF

[kapusta11]

Nightstar 9J should get -100% hand actuators quirk so that I can put Gauss and 2 ERMLs in each arm.

[Rovertoo]

Bombast, on 27 September 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

I imagine the Nightstar is going to need mobility or armor quirks to compensate for its great, fat torso and its also fat arms.

The Nova Cat is going up against what, the Summoner? Its slower movement and larger pod space should differentiate it fine. Same goes for the Arctic Wolf (vs. the Viper).

No clue about the Osiris. It's 'Going Up' against the Javalin and Urbanmech, I guess - It's got ballistics instead of the Javelin's missiles (They meet in the middle with the energy variants), and the Urbanmech is its own thing. I'm sure it will need some quirks, like most IS mechs, but nothing to 'differentiate' it.

Is the nova cat slower? Whats it clock in at? I dont have a summoner but I was really looking into the nova cat, I always assumed it was faster or the same. Maybe thats just because previous games gave it that amazing loping gait. I really hope they animate it nice like that.

[Bombast]

Rovertoo, on 27 September 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

Is the nova cat slower? Whats it clock in at? I dont have a summoner but I was really looking into the nova cat, I always assumed it was faster or the same. Maybe thats just because previous games gave it that amazing loping gait. I really hope they animate it nice like that.

The Nova Cat has a locked in 280XL engine (65km/h TT value), versus the Summoner's locked 350XL (86.4km/h). Both are 70 tonners.

EDIT: In addition, completely Armor/Equipment Stripped...

Summoner: 32 tons, 35 crits
Nova Cat: 51.5 tons, 40 crits

Edited by Bombast, 27 September 2017 - 01:49 PM.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Osiris:

Lights don't give meaningful quirks for the most part, so whatever!

[N0ni]

I don't expect much for the Osiris. Maybe some useless laser range, boring mg fire rate and maybe slight missile velocity. Can't have a better 30 tonner than the Spider!

But at least i'll get to play a MW4 pirate mech in Ops Pink. Nostalgia y u do dis.

[TheArisen]

N0ni, on 27 September 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:

I don't expect much for the Osiris. Maybe some useless laser range, boring mg fire rate and maybe slight missile velocity. Can't have a better 30 tonner than the Spider!

But at least i'll get to play a MW4 pirate mech in Ops Pink. Nostalgia y u do dis.

I'd argue the Javelin is better than the Spider but that's not important. I do agree though the Osiris will get minimal quirks.

I actually think the Nightstar will get the most.

[panzer1b]

I wouldnt expect too many meaningful quirks on any of the mechs since PGI has become anti-quirk after the skill tree dropped. If anything, i doubt any mechs will have more then ~10 structure/armor extra, and prolly 5-10% on something like energy cooldown or duration or some other meaningless stat that noone would actually notice in game.

[TheArisen]

panzer1b, on 27 September 2017 - 05:59 PM, said:

I wouldnt expect too many meaningful quirks on any of the mechs since PGI has become anti-quirk after the skill tree dropped. If anything, i doubt any mechs will have more then ~10 structure/armor extra, and prolly 5-10% on something like energy cooldown or duration or some other meaningless stat that noone would actually notice in game.

Very possible. I do wish they'd be more transparent with these things.

[Y E O N N E]

NSR-9FC would actually turn out great if it got 10% energy range. Will be #mediocre with Gauss-vomit, but as an ERLL boat it would do alright as long as it got range.

[El Bandito]

Novacat needs a "Definitely not a Night Gyr" quirk.

[Bombast]

El Bandito, on 27 September 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

Novacat needs a "Definitely not a Night Gyr" quirk.

It so totally is just a Night Gyr though. A Night Gyr without Laser heat Sinks.

Actually, I haven't looked at that mech in a while... does it still have Laser Heat Sinks?

[Athom83]

Bombast, on 27 September 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

It so totally is just a Night Gyr though. A Night Gyr without Laser heat Sinks.
Actually, I haven't looked at that mech in a while... does it still have Laser Heat Sinks?

Yup, still has the -100% external heat transfer quirks.