31 replies to this topic

[Johnny Z]

In game I was told that an Urbanmech machinegun boat can core out a mech from the front in 1.5 seconds. 60 dps or what ever. I seen it to. He got nearly 700 DPS for the match and barely fired.

Is this true?

Edited by Johnny Z, 08 October 2017 - 02:10 PM.

[Bombast]

No. But I'm sure that answer will just fuel a hackusation.

[Johnny Z]

..........

Edited by Johnny Z, 08 October 2017 - 02:43 PM.

[Zergling]

Gonna need proof for anyone to believe this.

[Bombast]

Johnny Z, on 08 October 2017 - 02:24 PM, said:

Used SRM. No spread at any range, all rear ct. Runninf around 12 enemy mechs no problem.

SRM2s pretty much have no spread and most well piloted Commandos are too small and fast to hit. It's not uncommon.

Zergling, on 08 October 2017 - 02:28 PM, said:

Gonna need proof for anyone to believe this.

[SeventhSL]

Smurfy lists an IS HMG as 1.4 DPS.

You don't get criticals until after you chew through the armour.

So no it is not possible. Not even close. Just try it in the training grounds.

Being a light driver does not however prevent you from good match scores. I've done over 1000 in an ACH before. A couple of well placed strikes and a back stab or two is all it takes.

Edited by SeventhSL, 08 October 2017 - 02:41 PM.

[Jay Leon Hart]

No, it's not possible.

4x HMG is 5.6 DPS

5.6 x 1.5 = 8.4 damage, which is less than any 'mech CT, even an unarmoured Locust. You couldn't even get an unarmoured cockpit kill with that, not even with full crits.

[Bishop Steiner]

Johnny Z, on 08 October 2017 - 02:09 PM, said:

In game I was told that an Urbanmech machinegun boat can core out a mech from the front in 1.5 seconds. 60 dps or what ever. I seen it to. He got nearly 700 DPS for the match and barely fired.

Is this true?

Same thing we've told you for the last 5 years Johnny....

Record some evidence. Afterburner is free.

[FupDup]

I get the feeling that steering wheels were involved here.

[Bishop Steiner]

FupDup, on 08 October 2017 - 03:24 PM, said:

I get the feeling that steering wheels were involved here.

hoss, I think Braille had to be involved for this level of nonsense... or "extracurricular medication".

[Tier5 Kerensky]

700 DPS? I guess he means 700 damage, as in total. But still, how to comment to a claim that Urbie has 700 DPS?

[Unnatural Growth]

Guys, it's not his fault (Johnny's). He fell victim to the terror fueled insanity that comes with being targeted by an Urbie. As a sometimes-Urbie pilot, I can understand this, I've seen it before. Enemies (especially clammers) hoist up their skirts and run like screaming pre-teen girls anytime they get focused on by an Urbie.

Don't judge him, or blame him. It's a perfectly natural reaction to seeing your doom come for you.

Fear the Urbie.

FEAR IT!

*or alternately, he was hallucinating the whole thing?*

[Koniving]

I heard that the 9 tag Super Nova could instantly kill mechs....

.....Doesn't make it true.

Now the 3 LPL and 6 ER ML Super Nova, maybe.
12+ 12 + 12 + (7*6) = 78... Not the most powerful laser combination going around, but definitely pretty deadly.

Edited by Koniving, 08 October 2017 - 04:56 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Koniving, on 08 October 2017 - 04:53 PM, said:

I heard that the 9 tag Super Nova could instantly kill mechs....

.....Doesn't make it true.

It's impressive that the 4MG Urbie is even more dangerous to the front of a mech than the 6MG Spider was to the rear.... Dayum. That's impressive stuff.

[The6thMessenger]

You mean nearly 700 damage?

Supposing 4x HMG + 2x MPL, it does 9.13 DPS with lasers, so 9.13 x 1.5, unless the mech has 13.695 CT armor then yes it can core mechs in 1.5s so long as they have at 13 CT armor.

To achieve 700 damage would take continuously shooting for 76.67 seconds, and considering 15 mins allotted time for each quick-play match, even just a total time of 5 mins, we can factor in cooling, getting in range, flanking -- basic combat behavior and still fit that 76.67 seconds of shooting time. That is also not factoring in the critical hits done by the MGs or the Lasers, or even strikes.

No it's not a hack, it's probably just a really good Urbanmech pilot and/or dumb players.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 08 October 2017 - 05:00 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

The6thMessenger, on 08 October 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

You mean nearly 700 damage?

Supposing 4x HMG + 2x MPL, it does 9.13 DPS with lasers, so 9.13 x 1.5, unless the mech has 13.695 CT armor then yes it can core mechs in 1.5s so long as they have at 13 CT armor.

To achieve 700 damage would take continuously shooting for 76.67 seconds, and considering 15 mins allotted time for each quick-play match, even just a total time of 5 mins, we can factor in cooling, getting in range, flanking -- basic combat behavior and still fit that 76.67 seconds of shooting time. That is also not factoring in the critical hits done by the MGs or the Lasers, or even strikes.

No it's not a hack, it's probably just a really good Urbanmech pilot and/or dumb players.

Good Urbie Pilots (heck good pilots in any mech) can break 1000. Some are harder than others, but it's not that hard. I've broken 800 in an Urbie (and I've seen people score waaaaaaay higher in them than I can), and as you said... it was due mostly to incompetence on BOTH teams, allowing me to just lay out stupid damage...

[The6thMessenger]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 October 2017 - 05:14 PM, said:

Good Urbie Pilots (heck good pilots in any mech) can break 1000. Some are harder than others, but it's not that hard. I've broken 800 in an Urbie (and I've seen people score waaaaaaay higher in them than I can), and as you said... it was due mostly to incompetence on BOTH teams, allowing me to just lay out stupid damage...

To be fair, i did 900 damage on a UAC5 build, consistent 700 damage on Laser-Vomit builds, builds which allows a LOT of range compared to a somewhat knife-fighting build, so i would treat it on a different regard cause it seems to be harder to pull off. But that's just me.

[Bishop Steiner]

The6thMessenger, on 08 October 2017 - 05:33 PM, said:

To be fair, i did 900 damage on a UAC5 build, consistent 700 damage on Laser-Vomit builds, builds which allows a LOT of range compared to a somewhat knife-fighting build, so i would treat it on a different regard cause it seems to be harder to pull off. But that's just me.

Even before HMG and LMG, I gotta say one of the best matches I ever saw by an UM was on HPG, and this dude, using MPL and MGs was just full on Ninja, and ended the match with about 4-5 kills and 1100+ dmg. So I reckon a lot is base don playstyle, circumstance, map, etc.

[Davegt27]

people need to stop hating on the little urban Mech

[The6thMessenger]

Bishop Steiner, on 08 October 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:

Even before HMG and LMG, I gotta say one of the best matches I ever saw by an UM was on HPG, and this dude, using MPL and MGs was just full on Ninja, and ended the match with about 4-5 kills and 1100+ dmg. So I reckon a lot is base don playstyle, circumstance, map, etc.

DAYUM. Getting top damage with an urbanmech is so god damn lovely and awesome, especially with builds that aren't meta such as ballistic builds.

Spoiler

The6thMessenger, on 03 August 2017 - 04:42 PM, said:

URBIEEEEEEEE!

The6thMessenger, on 15 August 2017 - 06:03 PM, said:

Spoiler

UM-R63 RAC-Dakka - RAC5 [450] + 2x ERML

923 DMG, shame we lost. I even ran out of ammo.

The6thMessenger, on 27 June 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

FINALLY!

UAC5 and 3x ML

That's right, i did 921 damage, top damage, in a ballistic build K9!

Yeah, i know the feeling. That's why my approach is usually mid-range builds, it's something that's not as ****** as specializing on sniping or on long range, or on close-ranged brawls. I'm pragmatic like that, and the ER Med Laser for the IS is just so impactful.

Edited by The6thMessenger, 08 October 2017 - 05:44 PM.