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#441 GrizzlyViking


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 01:19 PM

View Postarcana75, on 15 October 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

I dunno, when I was dropping as Clan about 10 hrs ago, most of the Clanners were pugs, while the IS were largely premades. In fact the 7-8 invasion drops the Clan team lost 5, 2 were steamrolls (Clan Siege Attack on Boreal Vault and Grim Plexus)

To see how things are actually going look at the Capture Threshold bar that shows which side is winning. The Clan color is blue and the IS color is orange. Clans almost always win Invasion. There has been a significant imbalance that favors the Clans for about two years. I can't tell you the specific cause of the imbalance, but the evidence that it exists is that Clans almost always win planets (see planetary map) vs IS. IS loyalists, I am one, started dropping out of FW when the balance issues were not resolved in a reasonable period of time. No winning = no fun. The result was people quit playing or switched to Clan or Merc. We had three to five loyalist units dropping one and sometimes more 12-man pre-mades a night when things were balanced. Nowadays the IS only wins when enough organized Mercs flip-flop to the IS side for a few days. There are a very few, maybe no, organized Marik loyalists units that still play FW Invasion regularly. Key word "regularly." Marik loyalists units may play occasionally for tournament rewards. Not the right choice of win condition by PGI given the known history and current status of FW.

Edited by GrizzlyViking, 18 October 2017 - 02:01 PM.

#442 Zodie


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 02:35 PM

View PostD V Devnull, on 17 October 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

Bloody hell...

It's OK Man

#443 Apocalypticoreo


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 06:46 PM

Why not just make it 50/50? Why would their be any tie in the invasion of a planet?

At least let the Inner Sphere win, give them back their planets so Clans can have another attempt at them.

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 07:19 PM

Or you could a tie as 'just hanging on'.
the planet may not get taken but defending forces are severely depleted forcing the regroup of mechs into new regiments ready to defend again.
Not enough resources to bolster the damaged units.

Now if we had an actual attrition option that we could see this sort of effect come into play, that would be pretty exciting.

#445 Mechwarrior6341032


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Posted 17 October 2017 - 09:42 PM

View PostBorg 4, on 17 October 2017 - 09:46 AM, said:

cant we just have 2 five player clan stars vs 3 inner sphere lances?

No. let me exaggerate to explain why this wont work. Counterstrike , 2 teams , 1 of 3 people with ak47's (clan) 1 of 24 with knives (IS), open, empty carpark map with a few stree light poles being the only cover, you cant throw the knives and you cant pick up the ak's if you somehow kill one of the ak team. Which team is everyone going to want to play on ?

You would get an even worse player skill and numbers disparity if you adjusted the team numbers and made clan mechs better and IS mechs worse, everyone and their dog would go clan. Since Skill tree tech has been pretty close to balanced, player skill and co-ordination required and rewards for each side is not balanced. Clan gets more cbills because they do more damage, IS doesnt get more cbills for having bonus armor, Getting into brawl range and armor/player cycling is a lot harder to co-ordinate than poking from range.

The only solution is a massive event with great rewards which is advertised in advance for a whole month through multiple media's (which will bolster numbers) with the simultaneous introduction of a split FP queue of casual solo queuemode (with a matchmaking system) or hardcore mode (2 to 12 person groups ( except 11 of course) with a small amount of MC given to each player after each game, not to the unit leader (a much better MC system than holding planets) and balancing the MC rewarded after each game to higher or lower values depending on which queue is getting the numbers. Same rewards / effect on the tug of war bar from both queue's.

Edited by Cadoazreal, 17 October 2017 - 09:45 PM.

#446 Grim Wardin


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Posted 18 October 2017 - 05:46 PM

I could have sworn I completed the challenge (12/12) but, for some reason, lists 11/12 - no reward. Anyone else?

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