26 replies to this topic

[Willard Phule]

Just going to throw this out there....

It takes 7 days to break loyalty with your current faction, we were given what...a day's notice about this event?

Shouldn't PGI allow us to pay some kind of cbill penalty to break loyalty quicker, or at least give us some sort of option to join an appropriate side for an advertised event?

[Novakaine]

Dang dirty lowdown and awfully foul smellin mercs.
Nope.

[Willard Phule]

Guess there's really no incentive to being a loyalist of any kind.

[Bud Crue]

Willard Phule, on 12 October 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

Guess there's really no incentive to being a loyalist of any kind.

Please explain your position here.
Are you saying you, as a loyalist, feel somehow cheated (or whatever) at not being able to break loyalty to go play as a loyalist of a different faction?

[Bishop Steiner]

Willard Phule, on 12 October 2017 - 07:03 AM, said:

Just going to throw this out there....

It takes 7 days to break loyalty with your current faction, we were given what...a day's notice about this event?

Shouldn't PGI allow us to pay some kind of cbill penalty to break loyalty quicker, or at least give us some sort of option to join an appropriate side for an advertised event?

wouldn't that just mean you are a merc too?

Concept of loyalist I'm pretty sure is...you stick to a faction...not jump ship whenever convenient.

[Novakaine]

This is just too funny.
I wonder just how many loyalist IS units are there anyway?
Or for that matter Kurita units?
And I'm not talking 1 or 2 man units.
Why not just call it Merc Vs. Whichever side gives the most Swag Event?
I don't think it's enough loyalist left to care anymore.

[Bud Crue]

Novakaine, on 12 October 2017 - 07:42 AM, said:

This is just too funny.
I wonder just how many loyalist IS units are there anyway?
Or for that matter Kurita units?
And I'm not talking 1 or 2 man units.
Why not just call it Merc Vs. Whichever side gives the most Swag Event?
I don't think it's enough loyalist left to care anymore.

And don’t forget the units who have maxed out the merc rewards and are now “loyalists” but loyalists that have no real negative consequence for breaking loyalty and moving around to the various loyalist factions just to have something to do (e.g. “welp, we have enough loyalty rewards in this faction, lets move on to the next new faction with 50% payout bonus”). Do we count those folks as actual loyalists for purposes of population balance or even merely planing these oh so special events? In effect, for such older players, even the loyalist label is for all intent and purposes that of “long term contract mercs”; give em better rewards in another faction and they’ll move along...and ya really can’t blame them.

[Nightbird]

I was wondering why the complaining wasn't about clans op

[Tier5 Kerensky]

Yes, I think the event favours Clans, be it loyalist or merc, as long as they play Clan side.

[FireStoat]

OP has a point. This is an issue in which a portion of the event has been gated from access for no good reason. In a perfect world, all accounts would be flagged with a one time use counter. Then, for a 48 hour period before the event start any account could break allegiance or contract or whatever with no penalty but it eats the counter for its one time use.

Problem solved, and it's so obvious I don't quite understand how it was missed.

[El Bandito]

RIP IS. Again.

[Marquis De Lafayette]

It's not nearly as bad as what it looked like in the patch notes on Special Events

-Mercs and loyalists from other factions get the same rewards.
-loyalists from the 2 factions get extra rewards

Yes...Mercs could come off contract and go loyalist during the event. But the probation period and no Merc bonus will cost them 5 million c-bills or more (vs. just remaining Merc) of earnings during the event if they go that route. So, while they could get the loyalist items....it may not be worth the significant loss of c-bill earnings to do it. So...At least it's actual "trade-off".

As a loyalist, I knew I wouldn't get the bonus items when they launched this. I am totally fine with particular factions loyalists getting a extra couple of bones tossed their way. Just as long as they make these events for all the factions...so we can each get a shot at them.

[Novakaine]

Nightbird, on 12 October 2017 - 07:59 AM, said:

I was wondering why the complaining wasn't about clans op

I used my daily clan op rant for another thread.

[Bombast]

Willard Phule, on 12 October 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

Guess there's really no incentive to being a loyalist of any kind.

Of course there is. It's that big, completed, useless picture to the left of your post where an individual avatar would be on any decent, God fearing forum.

[FallingAce]

No need for loyalist to break contract just for this event. Sooner or later every faction will get it's own "loyalist" event. Just wait your turn. Knowing PGI, I wouldn't be surprised if mercs don't get a "loyalist" event sooner or later.

It's been 547 days since PGI screwed the Loyalist favored the mercs with the release of F.P. 3.0

PGI should have never given the Mercs their own reward tree. They should have been farming the faction trees.
You know, win loyalty points with one faction while losing loyalty points with another. It's called a trade off.
Instead PGI decided to giver mercs all the benefits and all the loyalist got was the the shaft. vote massive drawbacks.


Faction contracts should be reset evey time the map is reset.
We've had 3 map resets and no contract resets.
B.T.W. a a faction reset would have the added advantage of cleaning out all the inactives that skew the PGI population numbers that skew the Merc contract bonuses.


and i still don't remember the part that said picking Kurita Loyalist will last untill the servers shut down.
Loyalist held hostage day 547

Edited by FallingAce, 12 October 2017 - 10:31 AM.

[Athom83]

FallingAce, on 12 October 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

PGI should have never given the Mercs their own reward tree. They should have been farming the faction trees.
You know, win loyalty points with one faction while losing loyalty points with another. It's called a trade off.
Instead PGI decided to giver mercs all the benefits and all the loyalist got was the the shaft. vote massive drawbacks.

Quick thing; Do you not notice the negative loyalty points for enemy factions in the match score screen? Yes, it is pretty small numbers loss but it does exist.

[John Archer]

Willard Phule, on 12 October 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

Guess there's really no incentive to being a loyalist of any kind.

There really isn't. The loyalty rewards are about as lowball as they can get. The fancy loyalty hanging item one got from pre-ordering mech bundles is only 5% and one has to make sure it is equipped on a mech in your drop deck.

Then there is the breaking of your contract, which the OP talked about.

They need to fix the system.

[TLBFestus]

I'm not going to participate, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and lay money that the Clans are going to win.......

[DAYLEET]

I will switch to SJ in 3 days for the Grey colour. If i can i will break and and wait for the next event or the one after and sync myself to be able to chose rewards every other week. The system is still designed for this i think. I wouldnt go clan before for rewards but i can always use more colours.

[John Archer]

TLBFestus, on 12 October 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

I'm not going to participate, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and lay money that the Clans are going to win.......

Heh. You think??