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#21 Trissila

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 01:24 PM

It's a little inconsistent, as other warnings can take precedence over it, but it's there.

When you press the button, you get "Override Engaged".

With override engaged, once you hit 95% or so heat (it varies a little), you get "Override Shutdown" to let you know that you WOULD have shut down had you not been in override mode. But that warning can get eaten up by other cockpit audio, so you don't always hear it.

#22 Daggett

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 01:42 PM

Ok, thx. I don't think i ever heard that voice, i guess it would help if it were priotized higher.
For instance i don't need to hear all 9 missiles on my ACW-1 at the same time when i go bonkers... Posted Image

Edited by Daggett, 25 October 2017 - 01:42 PM.


#23 Dr Cara Carcass

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 02:17 PM

I can confirm this. In the ASN-21 i often stay at 90-95% for quite some time launching only 1 srm 4 just to annoy the enemy. I get damage from overheating while below 100%.

#24 DAYLEET

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 08:25 PM

View PostDaggett, on 25 October 2017 - 01:06 PM, said:


Are you sure? I tested it in testing grounds and while in match. In both cases the "Overide Shutdown"-voice was only played when i hit the override-button, then never again. I just even accidentially killed myself because i had not realized that i was already beyond 100%. If there is any sound effect telling me that i just entered hell it is so subtle that i can't even hear it with my headphones...

The only warning from heat i hear is the usual "Heat Level Critical" at 80%, then nothing more until i explode from overheating if i keep firing...

It says "heat lever critical" immediately followed with "override shut down" then i hit 91% 1/10th of a second and take good damage to internal.

#25 Snazzy Dragon

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 08:31 PM

View PostDAYLEET, on 25 October 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

It says "heat lever critical" immediately followed with "override shut down" then i hit 91% 1/10th of a second and take good damage to internal.


Can you show us your assassin build? I'm sure someone could try and reproduce the issue

#26 DAYLEET

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 08:38 PM

View PostSnazzy Dragon, on 25 October 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:


Can you show us your assassin build? I'm sure someone could try and reproduce the issue


Im on a Phoenix Hawk 1K with 8SL. Who would dare replicate that Posted Image. Its not something consistent, i played it often that night and it happened since i came back on different paltform. I played the SCR and BJ and others since then.

I was getting shot at by a ACH with flamers and MGs.

Edited by DAYLEET, 25 October 2017 - 08:39 PM.


#27 Remover of Obstacles

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 03:44 AM

I have had some very weird heat issues as well, but I can't consistently replicate them.

Seems to be more common in scouting matches. I tend to slap override before I land from the dropship.

A few times I turned override off and immediately exploded.

Other times I was taking damage with the heat bar visually showing less than 60% or 80%.

I wonder if PGI messed around with high level heat or if it is tied to tracking ghostheat or just packet loss.

No idea.

I tend to take the all the heat/cooling options in the skill tree. Maybe some of those are bugged.

#28 Remover of Obstacles

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 02:24 PM

Confirmed, phantom overheat deaths are still happening.

Heat level below 40% hear the heat warning, boom dead.


https://i.imgur.com/dwLyr56.jpg



https://imgur.com/hlbz9bd


https://imgur.com/4tsgCxT


https://imgur.com/FlmaL5g



#29 ocular tb

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 02:36 PM

Do any of these instances involve an enemy flamer? The other day I was in my Jenner and was around 40% heat and when I fired my 6MLs I overheated and shutdown. I was being harassed by a Firestarter with flamers but didn't think I would overheat since my heat scale was only around 40%. Is my heat scale suppose to go up when I'm being heated by flamers?

#30 Remover of Obstacles

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 02:48 PM

No flamers. A few times not even taking return fire.



Edit, yes flamers should take your heat gauge up to full but not shut you down unless you fire.

Edited by Remover of Obstacles, 04 November 2017 - 02:49 PM.


#31 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 02:52 PM

View Postocular tb, on 04 November 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

Do any of these instances involve an enemy flamer? The other day I was in my Jenner and was around 40% heat and when I fired my 6MLs I overheated and shutdown. I was being harassed by a Firestarter with flamers but didn't think I would overheat since my heat scale was only around 40%. Is my heat scale suppose to go up when I'm being heated by flamers?


Yeah in one game I do remember specifically being hit by 2 lights with flamers and getting heat warning/override engaged warnings while registering at around 40% heat, so it seems that can happen, whatever it is that triggers it, unless it got a ninja fix?

#32 Shifty McSwift

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 02:59 PM

As for what causes it, I would hazard a guess it is ping related or an issue that occurs with multiple flamers firing through macro or key spam, as it doesn't seem to occur in most instances with flamers.

#33 Remover of Obstacles

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 03:26 PM

It wasn't flamer related for me.

Many of the games had no flamers.


Are you guys engaging Override at the beginning of the game or taking lots of the heat reduction quirks?

Edited by Remover of Obstacles, 04 November 2017 - 03:27 PM.


#34 Remover of Obstacles

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 03:46 PM

Taking internal damage at 55% heat.

https://imgur.com/oUYl2bu

#35 Nightbird

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 04:16 PM

stop posting images, video or nothing

#36 Remover of Obstacles

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 04:20 PM

Really pissing me off.

44% heat, taking internal damage, then dead.

https://imgur.com/6GDgSvG

https://imgur.com/nsPvO8D


Sorry, I don't have video. But you can see the heat at 44%, then 4 seconds later the engine is blown out with front and back CT armor still in place.

Edited by Remover of Obstacles, 04 November 2017 - 04:35 PM.


#37 Tarogato

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Posted 04 November 2017 - 04:24 PM

View PostRemover of Obstacles, on 04 November 2017 - 04:20 PM, said:

Really pissing me off.

44% heat, taking internal damage, then dead.

https://imgur.com/6GDgSvG

https://imgur.com/nsPvO8D



View PostNightbird, on 04 November 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

stop posting images, video or nothing

Posted Image

Edited by Tarogato, 04 November 2017 - 04:25 PM.


#38 Remover of Obstacles

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:03 PM

https://youtu.be/cOqYjj6ZhVU

Sorry for the delay, was traveling.

Here is a video with the heat gauge being weird starting after 3:00 - shortly after coolshot was used.

Hitting 100% before getting the Override message.

Getting stuck at 100% from 4:15 to 4:52 with no cooling registered even though no shots fire and no movement.

#39 Nightbird

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:28 PM

Nice, send an email with a link to

technical@mwomercs.com

suggest you also get one with override damage below 100%.

#40 Magnus Santini

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 08:55 PM

View PostNightbird, on 25 October 2017 - 06:04 AM, said:

The heat bar animation is bugged, it's resting position is wrong. I've found it to start at less than 0% at times, like -5%. For example, you alpha and your heats goes from 0 to 55%, so it's a 55% heat alpha right? Wrong. As the bar is sliding down, alpha again right when it hits 0%, and you rocket up to 65%. Basically the starting position is -10% which is why 90% is actually 100%.

Remember that on cold maps, you actually start below 0% heat. The gauge cannot show it though. If you let yourself cool a while, you will again go below 0%.





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