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[Jay Leon Hart]

Well, using this IS thread and this Clan thread...

IS
20 tonner - Thorn
25 tonner - Raptor
40 tonner - Sha Yu
85 tonner - Gunslinger
95 tonner - Sagittaire

Clan
20 tonner - Howler
25 tonner - Solitaire
30 tonner - Pack Hunter / Hellion
40 tonner - Pouncer / Lobo
45 tonner - Pinion
55 tonner - Rabid Coyote / Vapor Eagle
60 tonner - Hellfire / Glass Spider
70 tonner - Guillotine IIC
80 tonner - Canis
85 tonner - Savage Coyote
95 tonner - Turkina (BAH! Hellstar or Cygnus, damn you timeline!!! )
100 tonner - Tomahawk

K?

[Jay Leon Hart]

Rekkon, on 24 October 2017 - 11:35 AM, said:

Clan 60-tonner: Not a lot of good options here. Glass Spider? PGI would have to invent a lot of variants.

Arnold The Governator, on 24 October 2017 - 11:56 AM, said:

The only other alternatives for the 60 ton slot would be the Thresher and the Predator. The Predator would need a drastic change in cockpit location, but would be interesting to see the least. Thresher is somewhat in the same boat. They are at least both clan battlemechs but I'm not really sure if they would add anything exciting to the game.

What, no love for the Hellfire?

BattleMech, MASC capable, standard variant has 7E 3M.

[Jay Leon Hart]

CK16, on 24 October 2017 - 05:27 AM, said:

IMO from my perspective from a Clansmen we have alot of bases covered now by the recent releases with only 4 spots really needing to be addressed for Clans. That being a second 55t, 60t, 80t, & 95t options added to the game, and hopefully being a different play style to the current ones.

If I narrowed it down to just those...

55 tonner - Rabid Coyote / Vapor Eagle (Both BattleMechs, both look great, one Energy & Missiles with ECM, the other all weapon types with JJs)
60 tonner - Hellfire / Glass Spider (Both BattleMechs, one Energy & Missiles with MASC, the other Ballistics & Energy)
80 tonner - Canis (BattleMech, Ballistics & Energy, high torso mounts)
95 tonner - Turkina (Meh... would rather get the Hellstar for Energy with ECM or or Cygnus for Ballistics & Energy. Alas, timeline...)

[Villain Panda]

I am surprised no one has brought up the Stooping Hawk (http://www.sarna.net...i/Stooping_Hawk) yet. I see this mech has the potential to add something new, It is the only clan medium 55 ton omnimech to mount a standard engine. It could be a clan zombie-omnimech or "Zomnimech" if you will.

Edited by Villain Panda, 24 October 2017 - 02:56 PM.

[FLG 01]

At this point, the only major novelty would be IS Omnis, and I think we should get them. PGI must chose wisely, though, since there are some really bad IS Omnis.

But there are also some smaller novelties I would like to see. We lack a 70t IS cavalry Mech for example, i.e. one with a 350 stock engine rating; every single 70t IS Mech comes with a 280 (or less). Excalibur, Hercules or Daikyu would close that gap.

Of course, many may not care for this niche and thus want other niches, or simply want their favourite Mechs in game regardless of the niche or novelty value. ...which is fine, of course, I am no different in that regard.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Jay Leon Hart, on 24 October 2017 - 01:06 PM, said:

What, no love for the Hellfire?

BattleMech, MASC capable, standard variant has 7E 3M.

Holy mother of Jesus those hit boxes though. That's going to need some serious armor quirks because I don't think torso twisting or MASC is going to save this thing. I sense Linebacker 2.0 syndrome.

Edited by Arnold The Governator, 24 October 2017 - 02:00 PM.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Arnold The Governator, on 24 October 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

Holy mother of Jesus those hit boxes though. That's going to need some serious armor quirks because I don't think torso twisting or MASC is going to save this thing. I sense Linebacker 2.0 syndrome.

The Hellfire would actually have great hitboxes......if we had MW4 special sections. It was in a certain MW4 mod and combined with buffs that made STD engines relevant, it was one of the most notoriously tough heavies in that mod.

[Valdarion Silarius]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 24 October 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

The Hellfire would actually have great hitboxes......if we had MW4 special sections. It was in a certain MW4 mod and combined with buffs that made STD engines relevant, it was one of the most notoriously tough heavies in that mod.

The problem is MW:O isn't MW:4 and never will be. So I'm not so sure how well this mech would translate into MW:O territory. The same problem goes for IS omnimechs being introduced and how some people want interchangeable engines for them. If PGI does break the rules that far, then I hope my suggestion that those interchangeable engines do get permanently hard locked with all of it's equipment entirely.

[Quicksilver Aberration]

Arnold The Governator, on 24 October 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

The problem is MW:O isn't MW:4 and never will be. So I'm not so sure how well this mech would translate into MW:O territory.

I mean all it would take is for them to add special sections and it would be tougher than it ever was in MW4 (cuz MWO damage transfer makes everything more tanky comparatively). Not that it will ever happen but hey, just pointing out not all is horrible about its hitboxes despite it basically being a walking brick.

Edited by Quicksilver Kalasa, 24 October 2017 - 02:36 PM.

[Athom83]

Jay Leon Hart, on 24 October 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

Honorable IS
55 tonner - Scorpion
100 tonner - Xanthos

Dirty Clanner
50 tonner - Stalking Spider
65 tonner - Fire Scoprion

FIFY

[Athom83]

Quicksilver Kalasa, on 24 October 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

Not that it will ever happen but hey, just pointing out not all is horrible about its hitboxes despite it basically being a walking brick.

In all honesty, its looks quite elongated more than just being bulky, with that bulk at the shoulder areas actually being the missile racks... so more like a walking fighter jet.

[Johnny Z]

I am far from free to play, but also not a big mech pack buyer. But I would really like to get either the Sting, Wasp, or Valkyrie mech packs when or if they are available.

[HGAK47]

I quite like seeing the Clans take on IS mechs so a Locust IIC , Clan Shadowhawk or other IS derived mechs would be my pick.

Honestly I am more willing to buy mechs that offer something a little unique or different but I dont know lore too well to say what they might be.

[Y E O N N E]

HGAK47, on 24 October 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:

I quite like seeing the Clans take on IS mechs so a Locust IIC , Clan Shadowhawk or other IS derived mechs would be my pick.

I don't, because if the IS version is considered "pretty good" and then a Clan version comes out, the IS version gets kicked to the curb. Plus, it means all the IS icons get Clan copies, sapping the individuality out of the game. Boring.

[TheArisen]

FLG 01, on 24 October 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

At this point, the only major novelty would be IS Omnis, and I think we should get them. PGI must chose wisely, though, since there are some really bad IS Omnis.

But there are also some smaller novelties I would like to see. We lack a 70t IS cavalry Mech for example, i.e. one with a 350 stock engine rating; every single 70t IS Mech comes with a 280 (or less). Excalibur, Hercules or Daikyu would close that gap.

Of course, many may not care for this niche and thus want other niches, or simply want their favourite Mechs in game regardless of the niche or novelty value. ...which is fine, of course, I am no different in that regard.

The Thunder would fill the 70t cavalry mech quite nicely.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thunder

Multiple ecm variants, varied loadouts, good hardpoints. Only downside is it'd need to have some variants modified and some added.

[Storming Angel]

i would like to see more maps though the ones we have atm get boring quikcly. you could make some freaky and interesting themes, but i guess like mail.ru this company isn't interested in that

[TheArisen]

Captian Barney, on 25 October 2017 - 07:06 AM, said:

i would like to see more maps though the ones we have atm get boring quikcly. you could make some freaky and interesting themes, but i guess like mail.ru this company isn't interested in that

There is a map currently in development fyi.

[Jay Leon Hart]

FLG 01, on 24 October 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

But there are also some smaller novelties I would like to see. We lack a 70t IS cavalry Mech for example, i.e. one with a 350 stock engine rating; every single 70t IS Mech comes with a 280 (or less). Excalibur, Hercules or Daikyu would close that gap.

TheArisen, on 25 October 2017 - 06:19 AM, said:

The Thunder would fill the 70t cavalry mech quite nicely.
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thunder

Huh, I never noticed just how popular the 280 rated engine was in the 70 ton category.

Of those 4, I'd take the Daikyu for the look and guaranteed dual Ballistic options.

There's also the extinct/obsolete Hector, melee focused Hachiwara & No-Dachi, or Barghest & White Flame if we ever get quads. Out of timeline we have the all energy, ECM capable Prefect or kind-of-MixTech-but-not-really Mangonel.

[Tordin]

IS Omnis.

More polish on animations. Immersion PGI, Immersion. I know its about making the models not collapsing in on themself but a slower steadier, more impactful stride of the bigger mechs would be welcome. yeah pointing to the Mad Cat mk II and Nightstar. Hard to balance function and form without either stepping on metaheads and loremasters toes. Nightstars arms are a good example. In that example its raised arms were spot on respecting the old and new concept arts AND making the meta/ comp players happy(ier)

More IS lights that can boat ballistic to counter the clans 6- 12 mg madness.
Also:
Flea, Raptor, Mad Dog Mk II omni with Chin turrets on all CT omnipods for each stock config/ variant, Viking, Thug, Conjurer ( Wolverine C/II) & Hellhound, Fire Moth, Fafnir, Argus

[kapusta11]

I would like to see Champion, Dragon Fire and Toyama for IS.