16 replies to this topic

[Dave Lister]

RE: mech pack pricing structure.

Let's take the Pirahna for example.

Standard pack = $20
Collector pack = $30
Reinforcement = $10
Hero = $10
Ultimate = $50

I don't really get the Ultimate package advertising as it offers no discount from the component parts and therefore no incentive to buy those pieces together.

If someone was buying the ultimate pack couldn't there be a discount from the component prices, as with most other bulk buy options?

There could also be something similar for ordering combinations of the others e.g.:

Standard + reinforcement
Standard + hero
Collector + reinforcement
Collector + hero

[El Bandito]

It simply offers to remove the hassle of individually upgrading the pack.

[Paigan]

It offers the possibility to buy something that is called ULTIMATE!!!

(Just kidding. What Bandito said.)

[Dave Lister]

El Bandito, on 26 October 2017 - 02:56 AM, said:

It simply offers to remove the hassle of individually upgrading the pack.

Agreed. Not the greatest incentive.

[Rovertoo]

It probably makes it easier for them so they dont need to mess with rewards if people upgrade later, which I understand.

[Arnie1808]

I’m with Dave on this one, this is one reason why I don’t buy mech packs until there is a sale on.

[MechaBattler]

You do have a point. It's not really a deal so much as convenient packaging? At least the Collectors gives you extra goodies.

[davoodoo]

Wait piranha reinforcements and hero are 10$? kewl.

[Khobai]

theres no reason to buy the ultimate anyway

what possible use could you have for that many pirahnas

I mean it made more sense when you had to have 3 of a mech to level up your mechs

but they didnt change the pricing structure since they got rid of that....

theres no reason to buy the ultimate anyway

what possible use could you have for that many pirahnas

I mean it made more sense when you had to have 3 of a mech to level up your mechs

but they didnt change the pricing structure since they got rid of that....


they should at least change the pricing structure to something like:

standard pack - $10 - one variant
collectors pack - $20 - +30% cbill variant + two variants
ultimate pack - $40 - +30% cbill variant + four variants + hero
hero addon - $10 - (requires at least standard pack)
reinforcement addon - $10 - two variants (requires at least standard pack)


but even then why do you need so many pirahnas? lol

Edited by Khobai, 26 October 2017 - 11:12 AM.

[C E Dwyer]

No point in ultimate packs, unless you really want all of them, and your desperate for a few extra war horns that you'll get as random drops in event's when P.G.I think people have forgotten that was the ultimate reward of year X.

[rolly]

For that matter is there any point in doing these pokemech-packs? We don't need 3-5 of the same mech. Give us the ability to buy the one we want at least in a single sale for $5-$7.00.

Or for that matter, turn the mech packs into FACTION themed mech packs. 4 of the most common Diamond Shark Mechs, 3-4 Jade Falcon Mechs, 3-4 Wolf, 3-4 Ghost Bear etc. Throw in specific bundle deal with decal, primary colours and camo to get people started or give a more incentive (much less consumer conscious thought) to buy.

If they're truly going to keep with this redundant mech pack theme at least switch them to be Faction friendly ones. Or do something NEW like Comstar Mech pack - Nexus, Raijin, Shootist, Spartan.

Edited by rolly, 26 October 2017 - 11:04 AM.

[FupDup]

The current mech pack selling setup has a few key issues:

A. The collector's pack has a very bad price to content ratio. It's 50% more cash than the standard pack but only gives you one extra mech, and it's just a clone of a standard variant anyways.

B. Mediums, heavies, and assaults all share the same real money cost. This is an issue because these classes generally have different C-Bill costs in-game, so advertising a Phoenix Hawk to have the same value as a Kodiak is pretty silly when the Kodiak costs a mountain of space money to buy while Pixies are much easier to get.

C. The fact that you are required to buy multiple variants at a time is an obsolete legacy feature from the days when we had the rule of three. We don't need three variants to level up anymore, so retaining this system no longer makes any sense. It should be a per-variant pricing system that gives you a dynamic discount based on how many variants you pick (more variants = lower price per unit), in addition to unlocking other bonuses like premium time as you increase the size of your purchase.

D. The special C-Bill booster variant should be able to be chosen by the player rather than always being the "Prime" variant. In many cases the "Prime" variant just plain sucks (especially problematic for Battlemechs who can't pod swap), or otherwise it might not fit the playstyle of the customer. Heck, maybe even let people get multiple special variants if they want to. More money for the devs.

Edited by FupDup, 26 October 2017 - 11:22 AM.

[Daggett]

Khobai, on 26 October 2017 - 10:50 AM, said:

what possible use could you have for that many pirahnas

The Piranha is a battlemech, so personally i could need the PIR-1 for MG-mayhem, the PIR-2 for laser shenanigans, the PIR-A for it's four AMS and the hero for it's versatility.
I bought the standard pack for the first two variants and maybe i'll get the hero too. If the PIR-B would be more interesting i'd consider the reinforcements too.

So i can totally understand if someone wants the ultimate pack, although i think PGI would make more profit in the long run if they would offer some discount or bonus stuff for those crazy guys who help a lot to keep MWO alive by buying ultimate packs.

BTW: If the Piranha would be an omni, i would still want the other variants for their pods.


Edit:
But i agree that the current pack structure is not that customer-friendly because often the most interesting variants are in the reinforcement or hero upgrade. So i'd like to pick each mech i need individually as FubDup suggested.

FupDup, on 26 October 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

A. The collector's pack has a very bad price to content ratio. It's 50% more cash than the standard pack but only gives you one extra mech, and it's just a clone of a standard variant anyways.

You also get additional 30 day premium, but for many veterans the value of premium time has decreased.
So i agree that the collector's pack is not worth it's price for many of us.

Edited by Daggett, 26 October 2017 - 11:30 AM.

[rolly]

Daggett, on 26 October 2017 - 11:22 AM, said:

Edit:
But i agree that the current pack structure is not that customer-friendly because often the most interesting variants are in the reinforcement or hero upgrade. So i'd like to pick each mech i need individually as FubDup suggested.


You also get additional 30 day premium, but for many veterans the value of premium time has decreased.
So i agree that the collector's pack is not worth it's price for many of us.

Lets not forget though that its Active Premium Time. You use to get it Banked to use at your leisure. They seem to have made that subtle little switch recently.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Yeah this is something everyone and I am including every community content creator on Youtube keeps mentioning. No one understands why the Ultimate Pack doesn't have some sort of extra incentive that would convince someone to buy the ultimate pack. Most have said they should offer it for $10 off but even some sort of extra in game reward would seem to make sense. I mean it wouldn't sway me, but I am a sales and marketing guy by profession and I absolutely know that $10 off would convince many people to upgrade to the ultimate pack and in the long run PGI would make more money.

[DAYLEET]

I thought this was going to be why the meds cost the same as the assaults heavies. You always lose going for a med instead of an assault or heavy.

[Cy Mitchell]

Dave Lister, on 26 October 2017 - 02:51 AM, said:

RE: mech pack pricing structure.

Let's take the Pirahna for example.

Standard pack = $20
Collector pack = $30
Reinforcement = $10
Hero = $10
Ultimate = $50

I don't really get the Ultimate package advertising as it offers no discount from the component parts and therefore no incentive to buy those pieces together.

If someone was buying the ultimate pack couldn't there be a discount from the component prices, as with most other bulk buy options?

There could also be something similar for ordering combinations of the others e.g.:

Standard + reinforcement
Standard + hero
Collector + reinforcement
Collector + hero

Standard Pack is $15