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[l33tworks]

Really want a S variant but i dont think I can pull of 150 matches in 7 days left. Its just too much. They really need to extend the deadline. They overdone the amount this time.

[Jay Leon Hart]

With 2 full weekends to do it? 11 days was plenty.

With only 7 days left? It's pretty rough.

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 30 October 2017 - 03:19 AM.

[Athom83]

I mean, I'm at 85 of 175 already so...

[l33tworks]

Yea but not everybody can play mwo all the time on a daily. Sometimes people take weeks or months of or a rebusy during that time but not other.
For example IF you set aside an entire weekend which is HUGE commitement to do just for mwo, even then, THATS almost impossible. Maybe if you play for 48 hours straight but it shouldnt be torture.

Something like this needs to be at least a month long.

Edited by l33tworks, 30 October 2017 - 03:22 AM.

[RJF Volkodav]

Already have 145 of 150 bags ). Its ok, but might be too much for lower skill guys who do not get their 100MS each game.

[El Bandito]

l33tworks, on 30 October 2017 - 02:58 AM, said:

Really want a S variant but i dont think I can pull of 150 matches in 7 days left. Its just too much. They really need to extend the deadline. They overdone the amount this time.

PGI will either extend the deadline, or reduce the requirement. Don't ye worry.

*Edit* PGI did extend the deadline to Nov 10th 4:00:00 PM (PST).

Edited by El Bandito, 31 October 2017 - 04:38 AM.

[chucklesMuch]

The ghost town CW part is... though tbh I would have completed if I have just used my main account. (Have gotten bored of the event game play, so probably won't complete either for alt or main; alt would need to go scouting, main had all those mechs already).


I don't mind if they have events requiring lots of things to be completed... my choice if i play or not. but if they aren't fun then they become more annoying than encouraging participation.


(Wait town not fun, 2000 damage with cac20 etc wasn't fun, 80? scout flag things wasn't fun - way back, specific game mode wins in CW not fun....)



Wish that they could have made a two bucket system work; is vs is and clan vs clan... and also had sales on faction specific colours/decals/warhorns/totem mechs. Maybe have bonus or rewards for dropping in faction specific totem mechs and mechs strongly associated to a specific faction.



Ps pgi do plenty of fun events too

[Bud Crue]

Insane?
No.

Doable for me?
No. I just don’t have the time or frankly the will to play more than 5, maybe 10 matches an evening.
But hey, so what? Its free stuff, no point in getting bent over not getting the grand prize. I’m just glad PGI still bothers with these sorts of events and giveaways.

[Jun Watarase]

The number of matches is high because they want you to buy stuff to get the 25 bonus chances to qualify....

[Curccu]

RJF Volkodav, on 30 October 2017 - 03:25 AM, said:

Already have 145 of 150 bags ). Its ok, but might be too much for lower skill guys who do not get their 100MS each game.

Semi impossible to not get that 100, usually requires nice airstrike among friendly mechs

[Ruccus]

There are still eleven and a half days left as the event has been extended to November 11th (it notes the new end time in-game and on the update post, but not on the website event page where you redeem your loot bags).

[Shifty McSwift]

Would be nice to have the option of pumping out much higher score games to unlock more at once, hint hint, wink wink.

[Paigan]

l33tworks, on 30 October 2017 - 03:22 AM, said:

Yea but not everybody can play mwo all the time on a daily. Sometimes people take weeks or months of or a rebusy during that time but not other.
For example IF you set aside an entire weekend which is HUGE commitement to do just for mwo, even then, THATS almost impossible. Maybe if you play for 48 hours straight but it shouldnt be torture.

Something like this needs to be at least a month long.

It's an incentive to play, to be active, to show online presence, to be there for others to have someone to play with.
You have zero obligation to be online, of course.
But you also have zero claim to the incentives if you don't provide the online presence that they are intended to reward.

If you don't have the time, don't stress yourself out. Just skip it.
If you want to have them, then show the online presence they require.
The choice is completely up to you. No pressure.

[Bandilly]

Curccu, on 30 October 2017 - 03:48 AM, said:

Semi impossible to not get that 100, usually requires nice airstrike among friendly mechs

Had two I missed yesterday. Both my fault I destroyed the enemy base and won the match. GG Incursion mode almost no freaking points for base destruction.

[LordNothing]

its those 50 fp games. i guess he hasnt figured you can just do scouting. almost every scout match tonight was an insti-drop and they count. just drop with srms. so long as everyone fires 3 or 4 salvos at everyone before they die free prizes for all. i only got about a dozen left to do.

Edited by LordNothing, 30 October 2017 - 05:21 AM.

[Asym]

As an Average Potato, who is 0-9 in scouting........yes, it is quite a challange when you are fighting pre made's and nothing but the heaviest brawling mediums in existence... Scouting has nothing to do with Scouting anymore (since I am new to it and you 'all knew that already.) Regualr FP is dead and I can't wait 20 minutes a game just to "get in a match" to be stomped. I'll get 50 in scouting but it will take several days, about 125 or so matches to get it.......I don't own a heavy (scouting) 50 ton brawling mech; nor did I even imagine I'd need one in scouting nor am I a brawling pilot ! (or, want to be: ever).

Someone earlier said "it's an incentive to play, be active and to show on-line presence"... I've become cyncial over the past few months and playing for "free stuff" is one thing. Being a target for everybody else, a "seal" to club, match after match is something else... PGI made this 150 games to increase their sales opportunities and only their sales. Early adopter and all of the other sales stuff you are constantly exposed to playing for "free stuff."

This has nothing to do with making game quality better or building cohesion in the player base........PGI is just hoping for an additional 10% in sales.

[Nightbird]

25 matches in 2 hours yesterday. Seems reasonable for all the MC and the really nice mech. A lot of people already finishrd with their stormcrow(S) in QP.

Don't think of it as having to do all 150, rather it's up of 150 of extra rewards. Play however much you want to.

[Trissila]

Shifty McSwift, on 30 October 2017 - 04:04 AM, said:

Would be nice to have the option of pumping out much higher score games to unlock more at once, hint hint, wink wink.

That assumes that this event is done in good faith to reward players for playing the game. It is not.

Jun Watarase, on 30 October 2017 - 03:44 AM, said:

The number of matches is high because they want you to buy stuff to get the 25 bonus chances to qualify....

This is the truth of it. Tight timing requirements for non-poopsockers with no way for good performance to close the gap reveals that the objective is to push sales. Very basic psychology; players don't want to leave free 'mechs on the table so they buy packs out of desperation to hit the target goal.

[El Bandito]

Asym, on 30 October 2017 - 05:36 AM, said:

As an Average Potato, who is 0-9 in scouting........yes, it is quite a challange when you are fighting pre made's and nothing but the heaviest brawling mediums in existence... Scouting has nothing to do with Scouting anymore (since I am new to it and you 'all knew that already.)

Just boat Streaks with HBK-IIC-B, or Huntsman. Easy 100 score every match.

Asym, on 30 October 2017 - 05:36 AM, said:

Regualr FP is dead and I can't wait 20 minutes a game just to "get in a match" to be stomped.

Join the IS side for instant Invasion drops. Clan side has too many players queued in during prime time. If you don't make it easier for yourself, you cannot complain about lack of progress.

Edited by El Bandito, 30 October 2017 - 06:53 AM.

[Xiphias]

At 7.5 minutes a match (scouting and QP) you are looking at 19 hours of game time (rounded up). That's roughly 2 hours a day for the course of the event. Is that insane? No. Is it a significant time commitment? Yes. It's up to the player to decide if the mech is worth investing the time to get the mech. It can be shortened by buying packs (a true whale would only need 25 matches). If you had to run 50 invasion matches instead of being able to do scouting it would be getting into ridiculous territory.

Asym, on 30 October 2017 - 05:36 AM, said:

As an Average Potato, who is 0-9 in scouting........yes, it is quite a challange when you are fighting pre made's and nothing but the heaviest brawling mediums in existence... Scouting has nothing to do with Scouting anymore (since I am new to it and you 'all knew that already.) Regualr FP is dead and I can't wait 20 minutes a game just to "get in a match" to be stomped. I'll get 50 in scouting but it will take several days, about 125 or so matches to get it.......I don't own a heavy (scouting) 50 ton brawling mech; nor did I even imagine I'd need one in scouting nor am I a brawling pilot ! (or, want to be: ever).

The game is about fighting mechs. Dedicated scouting has never been a thing, nor will it ever be because a mech that is slightly worse at scouting but can fight is always going to be better than a pure scouting mech.

While the majority of scouting mechs are 50-55 ton brawling mediums you aren't limited to this. When I solo scout I run a Cicada/Viper with ERML. It has the speed to outrun the slower brawl mediums and can out range them. With a bit of piloting skill you can kite most mechs and pull games back even if your team loses the brawl. You can do similar things with fast lights, though they tend to be a bit squishier.

As for brawling, range is good against slow targets because you have lots of time to shoot them as they approach. Anytime you have a mode comprised primarily (or entirely) of fast mechs you are going to get a brawl situation because it isn't possible to put out enough damage with ranged weapons while the other side is closing to make up for the DPS difference at close range.

Things like LRMs and ERLLs will never be good in scouting because of the speed and low number of the mechs. There really isn't aren't brawling pilots, support pilots, ranged pilots, etc. It just pilots who can adapt to their circumstances and those who can't or won't. If you aren't willing to adapt your play style of course you are going to lose a lot. It's like ignoring the circle in domination. If you spend some time learning how to brawl you'll be a better pilot overall. I primarily like fast light/mediums (so scouting is like candy for me), but I also pilot assaults and heavies because it helps me to better understand their vulnerabilities and weaknesses.

There are a variety of mech options and roles available for scouting that are reasonably viable with varying amounts of skill required. If you want pure easy mode for completing the event (and don't care about winning) you can just boat streaks on something like a Huntsman. It's not really good, but it pretty much guarantees enough damage to get 100 match score if you stay with the group. If you are running things with "scouting" builds that minimize weaponry then of course you are going to have a bad time. You're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. If you aren't willing to adapt how you play you really have only yourself to blame.

There is no matchmaker in FP so it's gloves off. You aren't going to be coddled if you refuse to adapt and bring the best options available to you.