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[Spheroid]

Less than a month ago we had the battle of Luthien event. The rewards were in my opinion quite generous for the effort expended. The event DID NOT require you to be loyalist.

Fast forward to now. We have a scouting challenge again with an even lower qualifying matchscore. Why are so many still failing to qualify?

If you were around last time, the knowledge, the experience of that combat should still be with you. Why am still seeing bad builds and smoke diving?

From the very first moment you drop your first fight in QP the end game score screen should make it unambigiously clear there is a very strong linkage between damage and matchscore. Scouting involves lights and mediums killing each so logically shouldn't your builds reflect the rapid closing time and close range brawling?

This is not a grand epiphany, but basic gut level instinctual knowledge that should be absorbed very readily.

What explains the continued badness? Have all the early October potatoes left and replaced themselves with a fresh late October crop? If true that is a very bad omen, as a game with high turnover will result in many players having sparse or non-existent equipment rosters. Gamemodes like FP will not be possible.

Why would late October be that much better time to come back to the game compared to early October? Owing to the orbit of Earth the rate of daylight change falls rapidly going into November. Most of the shortening of the day has already occurred.

What other explanations can be offered to explain failure to make 100?

• low spec computers
  
• playing while under the influence of alcohol or other drugs
  
• Being a non-English speaker, while events are written and described in English without translation.

Also don't tell me PGI didn't give enough out to invest in mech upgrades. Lots of free premium and c-bills treats were awarded. Enough to afford a basic engine upgrade when augmenting regular earnings.



To approach something in a casual manner means being efficient with one's time. Failure to make 100 means you have wasted anywhere from 5-10 minutes depending on search time. More lethal builds lead directly to fewer wasted matches and effort expended in pursuit of a goal.

Edited by Spheroid, 01 November 2017 - 10:41 AM.

[Khobai]

200 damage is hard

[Paigan]

There are people failing 100 match score?

Wait. Okay. Stupid question.

[Bombast]

So you made a thread for the sole purpose of calling people potatoes.

12/10 concept there, buddy.

Edited by Bombast, 01 November 2017 - 10:49 AM.

[Mole]

There's been a couple times I have failed to make 100 match score due to just sheer bad luck such as one recent game I had where I got headshot from across the map during the sniper phase of frozen city by a guy with Gauss Rifles. Other than the occasional mishap, all that's really required is having a damn pulse. I don't understand how people can fail to get 100 match score so often.

[Spheroid]

@Bombast: I agree the topic was posted in a profoundly rude manner, but the underlying questions about skill and who is playing and in what numbers are quite valid.

That is a worthy topic. The observed player actions during the BoL vs. Trick or Treat in scouting and why they have not changed in the course of one month.

Edited by Spheroid, 01 November 2017 - 10:56 AM.

[Shifty McSwift]

Is it "continual badness" or just the nature of teamfights that sometimes people will be taken down quickly by greater numbers and/or good aim.

Add to that the lighter you get the more likely you are to just get oneshot randomly on occasion, and the efficacy of backshots, and it is really not that weird to see low numbers pretty regularly in certain percentages per game. Someone getting repeated terrible scores might be testing (and failing) at a new build or mech too, someone only ever getting scores below 100 is probably pretty bad at the game and more in need of help than insult, if you want them to stay and get better rather than just leave and go elsewhere that is.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Of the 8 Marik vs Liao Scouting matches I played yesterday, I only lost 2, but still qualified with 100+ MS each time.

Of those 2 losses, 1 was because an enemy Phoenix Hawk managed to gather enough intel to call the drop ship (after the rest of his team were killed) and make it to the smoke, with 4 of us chasing. The "winning" team all had under 100 MS, my "losing" team all had over 100 MS.

I love Scouting aka Brawling

[Spheroid]

@Jay: During that Marik vs. Liao event I was pugging for Liao. One of the opposing Mariks brought a stock Bushwacker-X2. How could anyone think that LRM5s would have been a good weapon for that gamemode? What is worse is a simple swap out to SRM6, MRM or RL would have taken perhaps one minute in the mechlab. Would have a cheap alteration as well. I am left baffled.

[Kalimaster]

Guten Tag

Yes that is in German. Do you have a problem it people being able to speak other languages. When you take a head shot before you even press the mouse button, and go piff, let's see how much of a match score you make. Do you have a problem with a few players because their match score is not up to your high standards?

Not all players a good players. They are here for fun. Theirs. Let them play.

[Asym]

OP, Are you serious?

IS drops 100% meta Bushwackers most of the time and we're suppose to brawl with them??? I've 13 matches left in Scouting and I've played > 75 matches......

I consider myself an casual player and it's not possible to brawl a 55 ton meta and win unless you are in a 50 ton meta.....which, I don't own nor would ever own because some of us DO NOT BRAWL.....just ain't my thing......

Yes, for the record, free stuff is nice. 100 in QP was not even an issue.

100 in Scouting has me so frustrated after this event, I'm off to play another game for quite a while....any game..........Heck, the team I was on are in Space.....I rather be anywhere but here.

Oh, to make matters even worse, there's a new wrinkle I just experienced:

a Commando that kills with 1 shot; even if you have 0 damage. Bang, dead; bang, dead; bang, dead - game over. What in the world was that???? Anyone know? We were absolutely speechless and don't understand what the heck that was...... Ideas?

[Paigan]

Kalimaster, on 01 November 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

Guten Tag

Yes that is in German. Do you have a problem it people being able to speak other languages. When you take a head shot before you even press the mouse button, and go piff, let's see how much of a match score you make. Do you have a problem with a few players because their match score is not up to your high standards?

Not all players a good players. They are here for fun. Theirs. Let them play.

Uhm ... what?
Or, language-wise more appropriate: häääää?

[MechaBattler]

From what I've seen in the new player section of the forums. New players see the payouts of FP and think they'll make more money than in QP. An event just adds to that. So I wouldn't be surprised if we're seeing a good number of new players trying for the event.

[Appogee]

Asym, on 01 November 2017 - 11:32 AM, said:

Oh, to make matters even worse, there's a new wrinkle I just experienced:

a Commando that kills with 1 shot; even if you have 0 damage. Bang, dead; bang, dead; bang, dead - game over. What in the world was that???? Anyone know? We were absolutely speechless and don't understand what the heck that was...... Ideas?

Post a video and we may be able to help you. Otherwise, you may as well claim to have seen Jesus riding astride a floating Kodiak.

With regard to Scouting: saying "I don't want to brawl in Scouting " is the same as saying "I don't want to hit the ball in baseball".

As you suggest, better to save yourself (and the people you drop with) the frustration and just play some other game where you're willing to do whatever success requires.

Edited by Appogee, 01 November 2017 - 11:43 AM.

[Mole]

Kalimaster, on 01 November 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

Guten Tag

Yes that is in German. Do you have a problem it people being able to speak other languages. When you take a head shot before you even press the mouse button, and go piff, let's see how much of a match score you make. Do you have a problem with a few players because their match score is not up to your high standards?

Not all players a good players. They are here for fun. Theirs. Let them play.

What uh... what does you being German and speaking German have to do with like, anything?

Woops. Missed the part where OP singled out non-english speakers.

Edited by Mole, 01 November 2017 - 11:44 AM.

[Bombast]

Asym, on 01 November 2017 - 11:32 AM, said:

a Commando that kills with 1 shot; even if you have 0 damage. Bang, dead; bang, dead; bang, dead - game over. What in the world was that???? Anyone know? We were absolutely speechless and don't understand what the heck that was...... Ideas?

I don't think that's actually possible, unless he somehow magics 55 rockets into your rear CT perfectly.

Edited by Bombast, 01 November 2017 - 12:00 PM.

[Mole]

Asym, on 01 November 2017 - 11:32 AM, said:

a Commando that kills with 1 shot; even if you have 0 damage. Bang, dead; bang, dead; bang, dead - game over. What in the world was that???? Anyone know? We were absolutely speechless and don't understand what the heck that was...... Ideas?

You uh... you sure it was a Commando? I mean... I came up with this: COM-2D

It has enough alpha potential to one-shot anything from behind but it could only do so once per match and it would be extremely unreliable since you would have to make sure somehow that you got all of your rockets into the same component, which is next to impossible.

[Spheroid]

I never said anything anti-German. All the Germans I have met in person are very clear, concise and direct. In many ways their command of English is superior to many Americans.

Its a fact that nearly all games regardless of genre drift from their original AAA markets to the East and South as they age. Areas of the globe that are substantially removed from the common Indo-European family tree and latin Alphabet. Arabic and Hebrew mean nothing to me and Turkic is more decipherable than Greek to me ironically.

To imply that when one switches not only language but alphabets, communication problems do not arise is not realistic.

Edited by Spheroid, 01 November 2017 - 12:13 PM.

[Paigan]

Mole, on 01 November 2017 - 11:42 AM, said:

What uh... what does you being German and speaking German have to do with like, anything?

Woops. Missed the part where OP singled out non-english speakers.

My "häää" still stands.
Are we some of us really so touchy?

What the OP did was offer a possible explanation why people might fail to understand the objective.
Read it as "if you are not able to read english well enough, that might be an excuse to fail".

How short-sighted and emotional must one be to interpret that as being anti-english-speaking?

Meine Güte .

[Mole]

Paigan, on 01 November 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

My "häää" still stands.
Are we some of us really so touchy?

What the OP did was offer a possible explanation why people might fail to understand the objective.
Read it as "if you are not able to read english well enough, that might be an excuse to fail".

How short-sighted and emotional must one be to interpret that as being anti-english-speaking?

Meine Güte .

Well whatever the case may be I don't believe failing to understand the objective of an event is an excuse to... you know... be completely unable to shoot ****. Low spec computers and playing under the influence could certainly be contributing factors though.