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[Bombast]

JackalBeast, on 03 November 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

Now, do yourself a favor before coming on here lamenting the two mechs that has 3 AMS, and look at how many clan mechs do not have a single AMS system. I swear to god these antics never go away.

Which clan mechs cant run AMS, again?

[Mr Death]

Also. Clan equipment such as 1/2 ton missle launchers allow you to mount ams as less of a burden to main weapons systems. The point YOU miss sir is I didn't say I needed balance by 2 ams but by one. AGAIN. No IS 3 ams. No IS 4 AMS. 2 Clan 3 ams, incoming clan 4 AMS.

[Jackal Noble]

Mr Death, on 03 November 2017 - 12:13 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net...055u_Komodo.jpg

Looks good on paper. Ugly as all heck. Plus has 2 ams not 3. No guarantee would get 3

Do yourself a favor and count those mechs as how many of them are not "Viable" and don't make it even to Quick Play nevermind Faction play.

That is every single IS mech in game, store. There are plenty of very viable mechs in that line-up. Don't come on here with a devious objective and not expect to get checked, bud.

[Mr Death]

I got checked? Ok. Stow it. All I asked is where is a 3 ams IS mech? YOU took it as an affront. My question still has not been answered vat born.

[Brain Cancer]

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LRMs? WTF are those?

A boojum weapon that cannot stand the light of comp, hiding in the dark of the underhive. Chris fears the boojum and mauls it with nerfhammers.

[Jackal Noble]

Bombast, on 03 November 2017 - 12:14 PM, said:

Which clan mechs cant run AMS, again?

Come on Bombast, man. Don't cherry pick. I already said it, and you also know better; swapping out an omni's pods results in pretty much a loss of all quirks on that chassis due to set of 8 rules that have been in place for sometime now. That's a pretty costly exchange for an AMS. I don't even use AMS for the most part. It's called - Awareness of your surroundings

[Y E O N N E]

Khobai, on 03 November 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

if you have to run a sub-optimal loadout to use it, thats basically the same thing as not having it, because no one is going to run a sub-optimal loadout just for 1 AMS.

IS dont have that problem. even their best variants still have 1 AMS.

...and their best variants don't use them because to do so requires running a sub-optimal load-out.

C'mon now, you can do better than that.

[Bombast]

JackalBeast, on 03 November 2017 - 12:20 PM, said:

Come on Bombast, man. Don't cherry pick. I already said it, and you also know better; swapping out an omni's pods results in pretty much a loss of all quirks on that chassis due to set of 8 rules that have been in place for sometime now. That's a pretty costly exchange for an AMS. I don't even use AMS for the most part. It's called - Awareness of your surroundings

How about you don't lie in your post.

Every Clan mech can run AMS. Period. You said they couldn't. Period.

If you can't be bothered to accurately describe facts, than I don't see why I should be obligated to give a damn about your arguments based on those lies.

[Jackal Noble]

Mr Death, on 03 November 2017 - 12:18 PM, said:

I got checked? Ok. Stow it. All I asked is where is a 3 ams IS mech? YOU took it as an affront. My question still has not been answered vat born.

No, you made a thread to whine about a couple of Clan mechs that have 1-2 more (mostly usesless equipment) Anti-missile systems and now you're trying to act like that's not what you did and I called you out on it.

I took the time and went throught the entire store to show you what the IS inventory has. Something you could have just as easily done, but instead decided to come on here and lament. At least face up to that.

[Brain Cancer]

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Looks good on paper. Ugly as all heck. Plus has 2 ams not 3. No guarantee would get 3

Do yourself a favor and count those mechs as how many of them are not "Viable" and don't make it even to Quick Play nevermind Faction play.

Many of them got the bonus AMS as a "booby prize" for being underperforming otherwise, or else they're the rare stock AMS users ported over to MWO like the Atlas-K. Generally, AMS hardpoints = number of AMS on stock +1, which is why nearly everything has 1 AMS hardpoint, a few have two, and only Clanners currently have 3+ because there's stock models with that much AMS on them...while the AMSx4 is purely a PGI lolbuild that will probably have a certain beefy guy trolling with it day 1.

[Jackal Noble]

Bombast, on 03 November 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:

How about you don't lie in your post.

Every Clan mech can run AMS. Period. You said they couldn't. Period.

If you can't be bothered to accurately describe facts, than I don't see why I should be obligated to give a damn about your arguments based on those lies.

I never said they couldn't, because of omnipods. I never lied at all. Look at stock omni's and look at how many of them don't have AMS equip. I don't run AMS on my mechs because I keep many of them with their Stock pods. Not a lie, so don't paint it as such. I said a lot of Clan Mechs do not come with AMS systems - that is absolutely true.

[Mr Death]

JackalBeast, on 03 November 2017 - 12:23 PM, said:

No, you made a thread to whine about a couple of Clan mechs that have 1-2 more (mostly usesless equipment) Anti-missile systems and now you're trying to act like that's not what you did and I called you out on it.

I took the time and went throught the entire store to show you what the IS inventory has. Something you could have just as easily done, but instead decided to come on here and lament. At least face up to that.

While I applaud your abliity to make a list. I don't give accolade to you being able to poke sticks when I asked a simple question. Also, I could be playing IS vs IS? Was up to me I would have voted this game for 3039 but we all know how that worked out when ppl said "whers muh madcat".

[Jackal Noble]

Madcat is cliche AF in my opinion. I don't even touch em.

[Mr Death]

JackalBeast, on 03 November 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

Madcat is cliche AF in my opinion. I don't even touch em.

not really an artful dodge and questions still dodged.

[Cementi]

VonBruinwald, on 03 November 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

So basically you want the best of everything and none of the draw backs...

Rofl coming from a clanner this is rich.

Oh and to those claiming clan lrms are worse.....lol did you forget that the launchers are half the tonnage?

[Jackal Noble]

Mr Death, on 03 November 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:

not really an artful dodge and questions still dodged.

Battletech 3025 is coming out soon. MWO5 is coming out soon. There is your where you will find your precious IS vs IS.

[Nema Nabojiv]

[Jay Leon Hart]

Brain Cancer, on 03 November 2017 - 12:05 PM, said:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Komodo

A good partner for the Black Hawk-KU with a potential 12E + 2 AMS (or just 14E)

[Mcgral18]

Khobai, on 03 November 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

if you have to run a sub-optimal loadout to use it, thats basically the same thing as not having it, because no one is going to run a sub-optimal loadout just for 1 AMS.

IS dont have that problem. even their best variants still have 1 AMS.

In turn, they have to run a sub optimal build to bring AMS in the first place, much like the Clams


Your argument is a joke

[Mr Death]

JackalBeast, on 03 November 2017 - 12:48 PM, said:

Battletech 3025 is coming out soon. MWO5 is coming out soon. There is your where you will find your precious IS vs IS.

Makes you sound like this. Didn't answer question.

Jay Leon Hart, on 03 November 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

A good partner for the Black Hawk-KU with a potential 12E + 2 AMS (or just 14E)

At least this guy is making an attempt at a possible answer. THank you sir.