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[Khobai]

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Pinpoint 80 damage alpha without shutdown? How about no.

agreed only clan mechs should be able to do that

[Roodkapje]

I would also like to have more ammo space for my King Crab 6x A/C2 monster or some space for a laser or two but I guess that's not happening anytime soon

[Christophe Ivanov]

In the spirit of this thread, my Dire Wolf should fire 8X Large Pulse Lasers in 2 Alphas before shut down. Yeah, that's a real laser vomit I can dream can't I?

[WrathOfDeadguy]

I dunno about 4xAC20, but the upcoming VTR-9A1 can mount 3xAC20 (just barely)- first IS 'Mech that can bring more than two 20s.

[davoodoo]

Savage Wolf, on 06 November 2017 - 03:30 AM, said:

Pinpoint 80 damage alpha without shutdown?

How about that??

[Brain Cancer]

If PGI could actually do the construction rules as they exist in TT, we could actually do a 4xAC20 Anni.

Too bad split-critting large weapons is lostech.

[Mystere]

theta123, on 06 November 2017 - 08:21 AM, said:

Only clans can have such things. IS mechs must be worse otherwise the clanners will whine their mechs arent more powerfull

Davions whining about the Clans does absolutely nothing to the quality of the former's game play.

[LordNothing]

just do 10s and 20s like i sometimes do with the dire (using cacs, uacs are too hot). you should in theory be able to fire without overheating (the dire doesnt). the downside is your mech will be very slow.

or maybe not, you have to run std heat sinks to make it work.

ANH-1A

you can also strip off armor and loose some ammo (get the ammo nodes) to go up to a 250 and use dubs.

ANH-1A

enjoy your 2 minutes of glory.

Edited by LordNothing, 06 November 2017 - 05:51 PM.

[InvictusLee]

wasnt the anni one of the few mechs on the IS side that can carry AC/20's in the arms?

[Y E O N N E]

Dogstar, on 06 November 2017 - 09:32 AM, said:

More importantly - why not? We should be able to choose to remove actuators on all IS mechs just like we can on clan mechs.

In the specific case of quad-20? Using IS tech?

Because you don't have enough tons left over for reasonable ammo even after using that STD and SHS you are required to take to get the space, and even the space itself is pretty limited.

AC/20 x 4 is 40 slots out of 55. Engine takes between 6 and 12. Weight is 48 tons.

Getting 2 more slots for the actuators doesn't help you, nor does losing 4 slots on the guns.

Plus? It would just be a truly awful build. Even if it were all PPFLD without ghost heat. Urbie speeds with brawl range, no ammo? There's no danger of the game being broken, but it's not worth any effort whatsoever to enable.

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There are a few IS mechs that could mount AC20 in the arms if only they could choose to remove the actuator

Sure, but that's a little bit of a separate issue than enabling 4x AC/20.

[GuardDogg]

So, should the Atlas, DW, and other assaults. But your just wrecking, changing battletech, for your enjoyment/

[Vellron2005]

Armored Yokai, on 06 November 2017 - 02:40 AM, said:

Title says it all...I mean why not? and the heat from firing those AC20's all at once should be 60-80% heat bar instead of shut down

And I want LRM100 that all goes to target CT.. and for Santa to be real.. and not hate poor kids..

But we can't all have what we want..

[Armored Yokai]

the Rifleman can use x2 uac20 and get only 80% heat bar after 2 alphas

[Savage Wolf]

Stinger554, on 06 November 2017 - 08:05 AM, said:

MCII with the same alpha at longer ranges laughs in the background.

I did not mention what mech or what range.

So concerning any mechs being able to deal 80 damage alpha at any range? How about no!

This should not be an excuse to buff the Annihilator or any other mech, that would just lead to power creep and less TTK. Instead it appears some nerfs are appropriate. The Annihilator shouldn't have it and neither should any other mech.

[Verghast]

I boat 4x AC2s and 2x RAC 5 on my 1A.

Not only can I spray lead into long range distances, but it looks hella intimidating.

dakkadakkadakkadakkadakka

[Athom83]

Roodkapje, on 06 November 2017 - 11:13 AM, said:

I would also like to have more ammo space for my King Crab 6x A/C2 monster or some space for a laser or two but I guess that's not happening anytime soon

"Downgrade" those to 4 UAC/2s . Happy hunting.

[Snazzy Dragon]

Hey, that's pretty funny! Here, let me try:

IS mechs should be able to compete with their Clan counterparts.

[Athom83]

Yeonne Greene, on 06 November 2017 - 07:59 PM, said:

In the specific case of quad-20? Using IS tech? Because you don't have enough tons left over for reasonable ammo even after using that STD and SHS you are required to take to get the space, and even the space itself is pretty limited. AC/20 x 4 is 40 slots out of 55. Engine takes between 6 and 12. Weight is 48 tons. Getting 2 more slots for the actuators doesn't help you, nor does losing 4 slots on the guns.

LFE, 1 crit of each ST AC/20 goes to CT, and 1 crit of each arm AC/20s goes to STs. Problem solved. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a93da20b148fed7 Replace the AC/10s and SHS in the torsos with AC/20s (SHS in the leg remains SHS). It is possible, just not practical.

[Y E O N N E]

Athom83, on 07 November 2017 - 07:36 AM, said:

LFE, 1 crit of each ST AC/20 goes to CT, and 1 crit of each arm AC/20s goes to STs. Problem solved. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a93da20b148fed7 Replace the AC/10s and SHS in the torsos with AC/20s (SHS in the leg remains SHS). It is possible, just not practical.

I never said it was impossible. The entire jist of the post was that it is so impractical that it isn't worth any effort to enable.

[Athom83]

Yeonne Greene, on 07 November 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

I never said it was impossible. The entire jist of the post was that it is so impractical that it isn't worth any effort to enable.

IDK, those few seconds of glory while your 3 tons of ammo lasts would probably be pretty fun .