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[Toothless]

There is zero AI, zero indication of what this VIP is going to do (because why would your all important commander/leader guy communicate with the team) and it shows a complete lack of effort.

[Alcom Isst]

Bonus: There is zero indication for if you're attacking or defending until the match starts.

[JediPanther]

Escort mode is just great as one sided as domination and pays great for winning by objective only. the only that that makes the mode any good is when you get three smart players who know how to win the mode. Wall of zeros you really can just walk with the bot and get paid. c-bill consumables cost more than pay out.

Edited by JediPanther, 31 October 2017 - 10:27 AM.

[Toothless]

Okay men we have to keep this guy alive!

<<<<Great so hes going to wait until we clear the area then move up?

No! He will meander aimlessly without telling you where he plans to go!

[Athom83]

The thing is, the reason it is so bad is because barely anyone plays the objective. When only the attackers play the objective, the ViP goes down quickly and barely anyone gets rewarded. When only the defence plays the objective, the ViP makes it to the end without a scratch and usually barely anyone dies. When both sides play the objective as it is meant to be played however, Escort is actually a very fun mode that is very different from everything else. Its not the mode that is the problem, it is the playerbase (the worst offenders being the "tier 1" potatoes who think they know best when they actually have no clue (not all T1, just the potatoes in T1)).

[Battlemaster56]

Generally I don't care bout the mode it's fun when both sides play the objective with purpose, others it's just another skrimish that some lrm boaters choose because free locks from untargetable/destroyable towers of god. And when you attempt to it's punishing for the capper.

Also the AI I hate it so much, especially one time the AI was 5 steps away from the dropship, after me and my team held back the horde to protect said vip, guess what it took a hard right denying the defenders the victory. I never felt so cheated in my life and after that my chances of choosing escort over skirmish diminished greatly.

[SFC174]

Athom83, on 31 October 2017 - 10:47 AM, said:

The thing is, the reason it is so bad is because barely anyone plays the objective. When only the attackers play the objective, the ViP goes down quickly and barely anyone gets rewarded. When only the defence plays the objective, the ViP makes it to the end without a scratch and usually barely anyone dies. When both sides play the objective as it is meant to be played however, Escort is actually a very fun mode that is very different from everything else. Its not the mode that is the problem, it is the playerbase (the worst offenders being the "tier 1" potatoes who think they know best when they actually have no clue (not all T1, just the potatoes in T1)).

No, it's the mode. It is horribly unbalanced and the AI, as pointed out, is garbage. It's particularly bad when the teams dropping are heavy and slow (only 1-2 lights) since the defending team has a huge infowar advantage because it is difficult for a slow team to cap the sensor towers.

As someone else pointed out too, it's an LRM boat's dream if you're on the defending side (and an LRM boat nightmare on the attacking side if your team doesn't cap towers).

In order for Escort to even begin to be a successful mode the AI must improve dramatically, the defending team needs to know where the fool is going (or even be able to choose some of its pathing), the influence of sensor towers needs to be diminished greatly and the bane-of-lights laser turrets need to go.

[knight-of-ni]

I'll pilot the VIP mech.
Just give me lots of cbills, regardless of the outcome. Oh, and let me taunt either team in chat.
No weapons required.

[HGAK47]

My thoughts on this game mode cannot be repeated here. However does anyone else wonder if the only reason we see that game mode is people get too greedy with the gamemode multiplier? Or do some people actually like that ... thing?

[Tordin]

Dumpster fire? Nooooo.... really?

When PGI can make the A.I behave like its not a drunk pilot driving that Atlas and start defending itself somewhat, then it would be a better game mode.

From planes to mechs. That pilot should have stayed on the plane....

[Kiiyor]

ZacharyJ, on 31 October 2017 - 10:34 AM, said:

Okay men we have to keep this guy alive!

<<<<Great so hes going to wait until we clear the area then move up?

No! He will meander aimlessly without telling you where he plans to go!

And he never shoots! Or torso twists! And he only vaguely watches where he's going!

To be honest, our VIP pilot has a really low attention span, and has only been taught how to make the feet bits work, so we just have anime running on his monitors and a bucket of Cheetos to keep him occupied while we pilot the mech remotely ourselves using a joystick with our feet.

[JC Daxion]

Yes, the route should be shown on the battle map, that should be added..

crimson needs to do something about that double ECM stack at the bottom of the ramp.. Remove the under ECM and push it over the other side of the saddle..


Other than that.. Press W..


lastly they should change the VIP to a crawler so people stop bitching about it not shooting or twisting..

Edited by JC Daxion, 31 October 2017 - 03:44 PM.

[InvictusLee]

I've long advocated for the VIP to actually be a player driven mech...

Like, before the match starts, make a random player the vip or give him the atlas?

[Mystere]

ZacharyJ, on 31 October 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

There is zero AI, zero indication of what this VIP is going to do (because why would your all important commander/leader guy communicate with the team) and it shows a complete lack of effort.

The VIP is a clueless member of the one of the royal families out for a joy ride.

Athom83, on 31 October 2017 - 10:47 AM, said:

The thing is, the reason it is so bad is because barely anyone plays the objective. When only the attackers play the objective, the ViP goes down quickly and barely anyone gets rewarded. When only the defence plays the objective, the ViP makes it to the end without a scratch and usually barely anyone dies. When both sides play the objective as it is meant to be played however, Escort is actually a very fun mode that is very different from everything else. Its not the mode that is the problem, it is the playerbase (the worst offenders being the "tier 1" potatoes who think they know best when they actually have no clue (not all T1, just the potatoes in T1)).

FTFY.

[Mystere]

Tordin, on 31 October 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

When PGI can make the A.I behave like its not a drunk pilot driving ..

The AI in Escort is a really really good indication of what the AI in MW5 will be.

[Jay Leon Hart]

Fun mode, when people decide to play it and not just play it as Skirmish instead.

Alas, most are here to shoot robots, so that's what most matches end up as.

At least it's not as garbage as Assault - can we remove that already, now we have Incursion?

[Bigbacon]

Escort mode does make polar highlands better. Its on of the best maps for escort mode because of the size

[Athom83]

Mystere, on 31 October 2017 - 03:55 PM, said:

FTFY.

Lol. I was going to post it like that, but then I changed it a few seconds before I clicked "post".

[Kaeb Odellas]

Escort, at its core, plays exactly the same way as any other QP mode.

Kills first. Objectives second.

[Mystere]

Athom83, on 31 October 2017 - 05:24 PM, said:

Lol. I was going to post it like that, but then I changed it a few seconds before I clicked "post".

Chicken.