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[Laser Kiwi]

Steel Raven, on 23 November 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

Cant get one conflict reward to unlock, anyone else getting that glitch?

Vague...if you mean the 12x 150 point one then it only unlocks the 4 million c- bills for the winning side

[Muriel Steiner]

You want to know why a non-american company might care about american specific holidays? how about:

Because they make a heck of a lot of money off of people in the United States? Because they recognize that having a day set aside to be thankful for what little good still exists in the world even though it wasn't their idea might be a good thing? Because they recognize the difference between "Catering too" someone (actively supporting them) and "acknowledging" a person (Merely recognizing and admitting that the person exists.)

Edited by Muriel Steiner, 23 November 2017 - 07:53 PM.

[Arkhangel]

Muriel, Canadians have Thanksgiving in October.
and FYI, they don'tcater specifically to the US because while, YES they do get money from you, they however also get a ****-ton of money from European and Canadian players as well. also, nothing says you have to play this weekend. Turkey Day for you guys was today.

[slide]

Muriel Steiner, on 23 November 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

You want to know why a non-american company might care about american specific holidays?

Just like American Companies care about the rest of the world.

How about Harmony Gold holding the rest of the world to ransom over an IP that can only apply in the US?

How about Apple doubling the cost of Itunes products here in Australia because data takes a quarter second longer to get across the Pacific?

How about Amazon charging freight on books which more than doubles or nearly triples the cost to get it here (Aus), yet I can get the same books out of Book Depository in the UK for about the same list price as Amazon including freight.

Despite some thoughts to the contrary, the USA is not the center of the universe nor the egalatarian pillar of fairness some think it is.

Edited by slide, 23 November 2017 - 08:42 PM.

[MortallyTransparentCupcake]

slide, on 23 November 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

Just like American Companies care about the rest of the world.

How about Harmony Gold holding the rest of the world to ransom over an IP that can only apply in the US?

How about Apple doubling the cost of Itunes products here in Australia because data takes a quarter second longer to get across the Pacific?

How about Amazon charging freight on books which more than doubles or nearly triples the cost to get it here (Aus), yet I can get the same books out of Book Depository in the UK for about the same list price as Amazon including freight.

Despite some thoughts to the contrary, the USA is not the center of the universe nor the egalatarian pillar of fairness some think it is.

but... that would challenge America's idea of how the world works ahaha

[Steel Raven]

Laser Kiwi, on 23 November 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

Vague...if you mean the 12x 150 point one then it only unlocks the 4 million c- bills for the winning side

Didn't notice till now, sorry (I need dome sleep) That little unlock icon pop up, I expect something to be... well, unlocked. Oh well, I can wait.

[NocturnalBeast]

slide, on 23 November 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

Just like American Companies care about the rest of the world.

How about Harmony Gold holding the rest of the world to ransom over an IP that can only apply in the US?

How about Apple doubling the cost of Itunes products here in Australia because data takes a quarter second longer to get across the Pacific?

How about Amazon charging freight on books which more than doubles or nearly triples the cost to get it here (Aus), yet I can get the same books out of Book Depository in the UK for about the same list price as Amazon including freight.

Despite some thoughts to the contrary, the USA is not the center of the universe nor the egalatarian pillar of fairness some think it is.

Companies don't care about anything except making a profit. And the USA is not the center of the universe, but everyone pays attention to the USA.

[Genesis23]

KlLLJOY, on 23 November 2017 - 10:38 AM, said:

Why why why why why why why why why why is this event only going on through Thanksgiving weekend?

Don't you think some of us have other things planned with our lives this holiday week? Friends, family, travel? Any of those things sound familiar? I know in Canada, that it may be just another week for you, but this is something of a big deal for us Americans.

The bottom line is, I have no time to play this event at all because of the holiday and my previous commitments to it. Are you seriously trying to break up people's relationships? I know that single men make up most of your player base, but shoving this down our throats is just ridiculous.

Thanks for being so inconsiderate, and have a great weekend.

first of (believe it or not) the US are not the center of the universe, no matter how hard you try.

second, they do this event at this time exactly because of you americans - your turkey day means longer weekend, more freetime, more playtime, more sales for/of their biggest playerbase. this does not include all americans of course, but PGI has to go for the majority and also the rest of the world, not the minority of US players who have their weekend planned out.

bad luck for you, better luck next time.

[arcana75]

Laser Kiwi, on 23 November 2017 - 07:05 PM, said:

Vague...if you mean the 12x 150 point one then it only unlocks the 4 million c- bills for the winning side

There are 3 reward groups, excluding the Steiner/Jade Falcon cockpit rewards:

3/6/9 150MS FP matches - 1/2/3m C-Bills. Which side you're on, doesn't matter.
12 150MS FP matches - 4m C-Bills, one for each IS/Clan side. If you want this, you *must* post 12 150MS games for either IS or Clan (or both), then claim one reward when the event ends and the winning side is decided. If you did 12 150MS games for IS, then nothing for Clan, then Clan wins, you get nothing. Vice versa if you did Clan and then IS wins.
12 250MS FP matches - an Atlas if IS wins and you posted 12 250MS games for IS, a Night Gyr if Clan wins and you posted 12 250MS games for Clan.

I could only post 2 250MS games for IS, but did manage 12 150MS games (pure Scout), so I'm giving up for IS. When my contract ends in 23 hrs, I'll attempt to post 12 250MS games for Clan and aim for the Night Gyr, with only 36 hrs to do so...

Edited by arcana75, 24 November 2017 - 12:30 AM.

[MrKvola]

arcana75, on 24 November 2017 - 12:28 AM, said:

There are 3 reward groups, excluding the Steiner/Jade Falcon cockpit rewards:

3/6/9 150MS FP matches - 1/2/3m C-Bills. Which side you're on, doesn't matter.
12 150MS FP matches - 4m C-Bills, one for each IS/Clan side. If you want this, you *must* post 12 150MS games for either IS or Clan (or both), then claim one reward when the event ends and the winning side is decided. If you did 12 150MS games for IS, then nothing for Clan, then Clan wins, you get nothing. Vice versa if you did Clan and then IS wins.
12 250MS FP matches - an Atlas if IS wins and you posted 12 250MS games for IS, a Night Gyr if Clan wins and you posted 12 250MS games for Clan.

I could only post 2 250MS games for IS, but did manage 12 150MS games (pure Scout), so I'm giving up for IS. When my contract ends in 23 hrs, I'll attempt to post 12 250MS games for Clan and aim for the Night Gyr, with only 36 hrs to do so...

FYI, you need 15 matches with 250+ match score to get the 'mech.

[utopian201]

arcana75, on 24 November 2017 - 12:28 AM, said:

12 250MS FP matches - an Atlas if IS wins and you posted 12 250MS games for IS, a Night Gyr if Clan wins and you posted 12 250MS games for Clan.

I could only post 2 250MS games for IS, but did manage 12 150MS games (pure Scout), so I'm giving up for IS. When my contract ends in 23 hrs, I'll attempt to post 12 250MS games for Clan and aim for the Night Gyr, with only 36 hrs to do so...

You get the mech regardless which side wins as long as you got 15 matches with at least 250 score

[Zarock]

I still think the match score system should be re-worked. People sitting back and firing on long range while the rest of the team has to take the damage shouldnt be rewarded with a way higher match score (even if they did less damage)

I already made a post about this with example:
https://mwomercs.com...19#entry5845619

[arcana75]

utopian201, on 24 November 2017 - 02:33 AM, said:

You get the mech regardless which side wins as long as you got 15 matches with at least 250 score

Eh? The mech reward has a VICTORY condition tied to it, just like the 4m cbills reward. So for you to get the Atlas+4m cbills or Night Gyr+4m cbills, either IS or Clan has to win.

If IS won and you didn't put in 15 250MS matches for IS, you don't get the Atlas+4m cbills. Vice versa for Clans. As well, you have to be aligned with either IS or Clan to redeem/claim the reward.

[Naitrael]

arcana75, on 24 November 2017 - 06:53 AM, said:

Eh? The mech reward has a VICTORY condition tied to it, just like the 4m cbills reward. So for you to get the Atlas+4m cbills or Night Gyr+4m cbills, either IS or Clan has to win.

If IS won and you didn't put in 15 250MS matches for IS, you don't get the Atlas+4m cbills. Vice versa for Clans. As well, you have to be aligned with either IS or Clan to redeem/claim the reward.

No it's not, it clearly states "Locked Conflict Reward" on the 4M C-Bills Prize and a simple "Locked" on both Mech Prizes.

The Challenge Title is also pretty clear on the condition of victory.

Edited by Naitrael, 24 November 2017 - 07:10 AM.

[MovinTarget]

arcana75, on 24 November 2017 - 06:53 AM, said:

Eh? The mech reward has a VICTORY condition tied to it, just like the 4m cbills reward. So for you to get the Atlas+4m cbills or Night Gyr+4m cbills, either IS or Clan has to win.

If IS won and you didn't put in 15 250MS matches for IS, you don't get the Atlas+4m cbills. Vice versa for Clans. As well, you have to be aligned with either IS or Clan to redeem/claim the reward.

Mech is not, already have the Atlas on this acct and the Night Gyr on my clan alt... you can clam it as soon as you earn it.

[MovinTarget]

Muriel Steiner, on 23 November 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

You want to know why a non-american company might care about american specific holidays? how about:

Because they make a heck of a lot of money off of people in the United States? Because they recognize that having a day set aside to be thankful for what little good still exists in the world even though it wasn't their idea might be a good thing? Because they recognize the difference between "Catering too" someone (actively supporting them) and "acknowledging" a person (Merely recognizing and admitting that the person exists.)

But at the same time, while some people are complaining about getting bogged down with Holiday engagements, many many many other Americans are feasting upon the battlefield as they have days off...

There will simply never be a "perfect" time for an event that works for everyone. We all have to bite the pillow every once in a while.

[Mikayshen]

I guess it helps that I'm not interested in the Night Gyr for my main or alt account. Nice event but enh, only needing to do 9 150 matches since we don't know the victory conditions yet or which side is likely to get them, I'm not going to spend time getting the 10th, 11th and 12th match when I can go farm cbills in QP faster.

[Rick Windwalker]

give clan +5ts in scounting and invasion please

[JuIius]

Zarock, on 24 November 2017 - 05:00 AM, said:

I still think the match score system should be re-worked. People sitting back and firing on long range while the rest of the team has to take the damage shouldnt be rewarded with a way higher match score (even if they did less damage)

I already made a post about this with example:
https://mwomercs.com...19#entry5845619

THIS!

told that ingame and were teamkilled... thx to the -mk- Guy

[Warning incoming Humble Dexterer]

1) I think the rewards should be closer to :
- 4M if you lose
- 4M and one Mech Bay if you tie.
- 4M and one Mech Bay and one Mech if you win.

Because with the current system we have the same issue we already had before with the old system : The only incentive for Clans to push IS out of the victory and achieve a tie, is to deprive IS of the 4M credits reward, but Clan players earn nothing for doing it. And also the only incentive for IS to achieve a victory over a tie is to get a secondary 4M credits rewards anyway.

While with my suggestion, the incentive for Clans to push IS back into a tie would be to unlock a Mech Bay for Clan players, and the incentive for IS to achieve a victory over a tie would be to get a Mech on top the Mech Bay.

Because for Clan players not interested in conquering planets, once they've unlocked their free Bay + Mech there's just isn't much incentive to push IS right from victory all the way back to defeat just to manage to unlock a 4M credits reward.

2) As another issue, it seems the outcome heavily depends on which side the mercenary units are when the event is announced : How about making the player group feature "not" available during those rare enough Faction Play events, which would have the huge benefit of temporarily reducing the amount of seriously toxic grouped unit seal clubbing from Faction Play, right when you're trying to promote Faction Play to players who prefer to stay away from Faction Play precisely because of it's excess amount of grouped unit based seal clubbing ?

3) And finally : How about giving a bonus deck weight to Loyalist Decks over Mercenary Decks ?

Example (depending on balance requirements) :
- Mercenary Decks : 240T and 45T
- Clan loyalist Decks : 250T and 50T
- IS loyalist Decks : 260T and 55T

This would help balance the excess impact volatile Mercenary Units are having on Clan vs IS Faction Play.

Edited by Humble Dexter, 24 November 2017 - 11:18 PM.