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The Next 85 Ton Assault Should Be The Crockett


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#1 Armored Yokai

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:26 PM

We have.....

80: Zeus,Awesome,Victor.
85:Battlemaster,Stalker.
90:Mauler,Highlander,Cyclops.
95:Banshee,NightStar.
100:Atlas,KingCrab,Annihilator.

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Despite the funny look and original purpose to be a training battlemech, the Crockett is a formidable unit that has gun to window length arm hard points and comes with jump jets. (JJ's are pointless so it will just be taken off) Knowing how I.S will get armor/structure buffs and maybe some range/heat buffs too, this mech's 1b variant will possibly boat x6 ERLL and just be a better Lasermaster due to the fact the arms are noodles that are very close to the cockpit in terms of "highmount" and this mech is really XL friendly because the side torsos are skinny compared to the big giant hit box that's called a center torso. I have faith that Alex Iglesias will turn this funny looking mech into a highly detailed monster that will just have clanners scream for nerfs. (ERLL stalker nerf)

The main Crockett isn't that deadly but the 1b is.

#2 N0ni

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:37 PM

For an 85 tonner, why not a Templar?

Fills the slot, IS Omni, and dives into new tech (X-Pulse Lasers). Three things for the price of one. Sure it requires a time jump, but that comes at zero effort.

#3 FupDup

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:39 PM

View PostN0ni, on 19 November 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

For an 85 tonner, why not a Templar?

Fills the slot, IS Omni, and dives into new tech (X-Pulse Lasers). Three things for the price of one. Sure it requires a time jump, but that comes at zero effort.

There are a lot of Templar variants without X-Pulses (literally all of them excluding the Alternate D) so PGI would likely skip over them. Sort of like how PGI skipped over the Zeus variant that had a Binary Laser Cannon stock.

Edited by FupDup, 19 November 2017 - 09:40 PM.


#4 N0ni

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:42 PM

Still needs a time jump, 3062 mech. But still totally doable today.

#5 Armored Yokai

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:43 PM

View PostN0ni, on 19 November 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

For an 85 tonner, why not a Templar?

Fills the slot, IS Omni, and dives into new tech (X-Pulse Lasers). Three things for the price of one. Sure it requires a time jump, but that comes at zero effort.

I'd rather have Omnis in a big mechpack of 4 or 8 rather than singular.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 10:50 PM

310 max engine rating = fail

Battlemaster master race FTW.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 10:52 PM

I'd rather have the Gunslinger
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Gunslinger

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 11:48 PM

We lack ballistic boating 85 ton mech. So Templar, or Gunslinger for me.

#9 Armored Yokai

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 12:05 AM

View PostMuujig612, on 19 November 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

We lack ballistic boating 85 ton mech.

BlackWatch

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 12:29 AM

View PostArmored Yokai, on 20 November 2017 - 12:05 AM, said:

BlackWatch


*checks it out*

Yuck.

#11 xVLFBERHxT

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 01:50 AM

i like the crocket. For clan i like this!

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Hellstar

Edited by xVLFBERHxT, 20 November 2017 - 01:50 AM.


#12 Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 02:00 AM

View PostArmored Yokai, on 19 November 2017 - 09:26 PM, said:

...this mech's 1b variant will possibly boat x6 ERLL and just be a better Lasermaster due to the fact the arms are noodles that are very close to the cockpit in terms of "highmount" and this mech is really XL friendly because the side torsos are skinny compared to the big giant hit box that's called a center torso. I have faith that Alex Iglesias will turn this funny looking mech into a highly detailed monster that will just have clanners scream for nerfs. (ERLL stalker nerf)


It would be much worse than the Battlemaser or even the Stalker, Battlemaster can strip the arms entirely for free weight and then has all the weapons in the torso hardpoints that are not only at cockpit height, but also right beside it. You don't want to have super long arms on poke mechs, it ends up making side poking harder, makes working around teammates harder, and means your arms are likely ineffective at spreading damage. The torso on the mech seems to be similar in shape to a Jagermech's but a bit broader at the top, depending on how the hitboxes are setup it could either have huge, small, or average size STs, but in general would just have torso hitboxes as bad as a Battlemaster but without the shield arms. Also the top speed is low.

0/10 would not buy mechpack.

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 02:03 AM

View PostN0ni, on 19 November 2017 - 09:37 PM, said:

For an 85 tonner, why not a Templar?

View PostTheArisen, on 19 November 2017 - 10:52 PM, said:

I'd rather have the Gunslinger

View PostMuujig612, on 19 November 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

So Templar, or Gunslinger for me.

Yep, Gunslinger or Templar look like great options.

For a 3rd, I like the look of the Tai-Sho, though it suffers from having a C3 in both variants. Still, UAC10 + 2 ERPPCs or UAC10 + 2 HPPCs are good enough stock builds.

#14 Black Ivan

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 02:03 AM

Please not the Crockett wit it's extra bulky torso so that nobody can miss his. There are other Mechs like the Gunslinger etc which would work much better

#15 Jay Leon Hart

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 02:06 AM

View PostxVLFBERHxT, on 20 November 2017 - 01:50 AM, said:

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Hellstar

Yeah, the Hellstar is all kinds of gorgeous. Shame it's also too far out of timeline, just like the Cygnus. The only Clan 95 tonners we're likely to get are the Turkina or a PGI original.

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 05:26 AM

85 tonner with 310 max engine and Uziel style hitboxes? No thanks. How bout a Sunder or a Templar?

Edited by Athom83, 20 November 2017 - 05:26 AM.


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 05:41 AM

I think we've reached the point when there is not so many cool non-omni mechs left for IS. Because that thing is not cool and overall unremarkable.

Its about time they do something about IS Xl survivability and start selling IS omnis already. It will open some opportunities for good highly sellable mechpacks.

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 06:10 AM

Posted ImageIsnt this appealing to all the urbie fetish guys?

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 10:17 AM

View PostxVLFBERHxT, on 20 November 2017 - 06:10 AM, said:

Isnt this appealing to all the urbie fetish guys?

No. It is appealing to the Uziel fetish guys however.

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 10:27 AM

View PostAthom83, on 20 November 2017 - 10:17 AM, said:

No. It is appealing to the Uziel fetish guys however.

As one of the Uziel lovers, I can say it's really not Posted Image





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