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[Jun Watarase]

Ive been thinking of trying a RGH-2A build for a while ad just saw that the reaver was on sale and is blatantly better than the RGH-2A. I was thinking of 3x AC2/3x MPL at first but the reaver gets bonuses for 2x UACs 5s which are obviously better.

Anyone have experience with the reaver?

[Gas Guzzler]

It's not very good, the ballistics are too far apart, and 2 UAC5s is pretty light on firepower so you really want more precision with that. There is an Orion that would be better for 2 UAC5 builds. -V I think.

[Nightbird]

There's one that can do a decent brawl with AC20 & SRMs, but the rest suffer from random weapons placement and not enough tonnage for IS ballistics. IS 70 tonners are better.

[davoodoo]

Gas Guzzler, on 22 November 2017 - 09:46 AM, said:

It's not very good, the ballistics are too far apart, and 2 UAC5s is pretty light on firepower so you really want more precision with that. There is an Orion that would be better for 2 UAC5 builds. -V I think.

What do you mean 2 uac5??

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...dfb0a1d96bc4492

Now you have sturdy 65 tons brawler.

Edited by davoodoo, 22 November 2017 - 10:02 AM.

[VirtualSmitty]

Gas Guzzler, on 22 November 2017 - 09:46 AM, said:

It's not very good, the ballistics are too far apart, and 2 UAC5s is pretty light on firepower so you really want more precision with that. There is an Orion that would be better for 2 UAC5 builds. -V I think.

Disagree, it's a very good chassis and vastly superior to the Orion. The hitboxes are superior and the uac/armor quirks are damn good. Reaver is tough is tough as nails, armor is assault like and it can run an XL safely whereas the Orion can not.

[Exard3k]

best double UAC10 IS mech I know of. convergence and height of the hardpoints are tricky, but these quirks dont come from nothing. excellent IS tanky dakka mech

Edited by Exard3k, 22 November 2017 - 10:13 AM.

[process]

I've yet to settle on a build that feels right, but I think you have to make use of those 4 high energy hardpoints to make it worth it. Jagers, Riflemnn, and even the K2 are probably better suited for any dual-ballistic loadout than the Reaver.

[Verilligo]

Just run two UAC10s, 6 tons of ammo, XL280, Endo, and 3 DHS. Don't put any lasers in the shoulders or you'll get the hunches and that impacts XL safety. I've also had great luck with the standard 2 UAC5, 4 ML design, but the plain twin UAC10 setup is simple and extremely effective.

[Sierra3]

I run mine with two LB 10-X ACs and four small pulse lasers. Never had much luck with UACs on any mech and prefer the LBXs anyway. My opinion.

[Gas Guzzler]

davoodoo, on 22 November 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

What do you mean 2 uac5??

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...dfb0a1d96bc4492

Now you have sturdy 65 tons brawler.

Tried it, was underwhelming.

VirtualSmitty, on 22 November 2017 - 10:05 AM, said:

Disagree, it's a very good chassis and vastly superior to the Orion. The hitboxes are superior and the uac/armor quirks are damn good. Reaver is tough is tough as nails, armor is assault like and it can run an XL safely whereas the Orion can not.

Orion runs an LFE with 2 UAC5s and 2PPCs just fine. Convergence is much better and has great UAC quirks. Though I'll take the MAD-3R over both despite having less quirks.

[VirtualSmitty]

Gas Guzzler, on 22 November 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

Tried it, was underwhelming.



Orion runs an LFE with 2 UAC5s and 2PPCs just fine. Convergence is much better and has great UAC quirks. Though I'll take the MAD-3R over both despite having less quirks.

The Orion is still squishy and doesn't have the same great hitboxes. And Reaver can run dual UAC10s which is a nice little build. I'd never pick an Orion over any of the Roughnecks but I agree, MADs are better than both.

[BrunoSSace]

2 ac10 and 4 er medium. Its ok, but the low mounts are frustrating. It has great hitboxs and amazing tank quirks. So i run mine with an xl and full survival tree, does well.

You are nearly better off running an energy build with it since of the high mounts. 4 ER larges or 3 large pulse and a medium laser. Even heavy ppc with laser back up.

Edited by BrunoSSace, 22 November 2017 - 11:33 AM.

[davoodoo]

You need to make use of its uac jam quirks or youre building it wrong.

[Major Tomm]

Reaver 280 LE, 2x UAC10 and mixed lasers. 2 LB-10X is also good, especially vs faster mechs. Get it, you will be happy. The only other Roughneck worth leveling is the energy boat. I made 30th in the Reaver challenge and it's worth your time.

[N0ni]

I've tried just about everything on the Reaver and just can't get it to work well. The builds that worked best for me were 4 LPL or 1 Gauss / 1 HPPC / 3 ERML. I really only got it just to say i have a Roughneck. Better off with something else imo.

[zagszy]

The Reaver overall is a "decent" mech.

By decent, I mean the performance varies. There are some public games where I run in and **** everyone up, and my UAC5s never jams. There are other games where I'm destroyed 2 minutes into the game.

Overall, it's not as good compared to other Roughnecks, I won't lie. The UAC5 jam chance hardly matters because sometimes you'll jam after the first burst. Honestly, I can only recommend building around twin UAC10s if you want to hit damage numbers around 300-400 range consistently, but even then it suffers terrible heat and weight issues, and you basically have to mount XL engines on every build you use. Honestly, you could possibly run 4 LPLs, as the shoulder laser mounts are better then average.

TL;DR Reaver performance varies due to lack of consistent firepower, suffers heat and weight problems, and is basically unable to use a STD or Light engine if you're running decent builds. In cases you run with UAC2s or AC2s, there are far better mechs to be running those builds (Dakka Dragon 5N, Jagermech).

UAC10 Build - http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8e4d9a706c7323e

The only build I can really recommend. UAC5s are IMHO too weak to take into a brawl, but better on dedicated fire support mechs like Black Widow or Dakka Whales. The Reaver is NOT a fire support with its low arm mounts.

[Humpday]

2 large laser
2 ML
lbx10
srms

Poke with the lasers early, late game, go brawl and bring the srms and lbx into play
Solid mech, sturdy, even in an XL.

I side stack the LLs with the lbx 10 so i can corner peak an snap off the lbx10 plus the LLs. The low mount can troublesome but i came from playing Cataphracts, so I was already used to knowing when/how to engage....plus I'm wierd.

Edited by Humpday, 22 November 2017 - 03:14 PM.

[Major Tomm]

You get the UAC5 -jam chance on UAC-10s too. Hover your mouse over the UAC-10's in Mechlab.

[Humpday]

I don't think the Reaver is a good candidate to use uacs on in general, despite the Jam quirk.
If you wanna run something low mounted like that and UACs, the Cataphract-3D will probably get you further down the road since its god quirked with armor and a 30% Jam change.

For the Reaver, I use the ballistic mounts as secondary to the energy.

Certainly not uac5s since those require you to expose for a long time (to to mention expose your entire torso) and do little damage with only 2, generally not worth it. Plus they are heavy. And UAC5s in a brawl...oh boy you're asking for a bad day.

Maybe a UAC10 but then, due to weight youre now in the territory where you should be using another mech. MAD, Warhammer...basically not the Reaver.

Thats just my take on it, personally, obviously run whatever floats your boat.

Edited by Humpday, 22 November 2017 - 03:13 PM.

[Snazzy Dragon]

It's consistently okay. Nothing special, and it's not bad, either.