Marauder Ii Too Powerful?
#1
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:12 AM
Is this general issue or just my own observation? Is there something that can or should be done?
I'm mainly concerned about FW experience.
#2
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:16 AM
need to link medium and large laser for ghost heat
#3
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:26 AM
Lpl battlemaster pilot thinks 'ty easy target', if HBR or crow within 500 meters.
Edited by rustyrat, 12 December 2017 - 11:58 AM.
#4
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:32 AM
#5
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:33 AM
Khobai, on 12 December 2017 - 11:16 AM, said:
need to link medium and large laser for ghost heat
Tried to make mad2c with linked lasers
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b38e0279f82ef80
best ive come up with...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...69e16a80c7c7a33
supernova.
and thats is hbk2c a
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0dc4b7e9e31b66a
Edited by davoodoo, 12 December 2017 - 11:38 AM.
#6
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:34 AM
it doesnt prevent you from running 6 mediums and 2 large lasers, it just prevents you from firing them all at the same time.
it means to deliver a massive laser alpha you need to stay exposed longer
it would help balance laser vomit better with facetime weapons like autocannons
Edited by Khobai, 12 December 2017 - 11:37 AM.
#7
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:36 AM
rustyrat, on 12 December 2017 - 11:26 AM, said:
For example lpl battlemaster pilot thinks 'ty easy target', if HBR or crow within 500 meters.
Exactly it's about knowing how and when to shoot robots. Problem is this playerbase's skill level varies from being a one celled amoeba to being really good, except a good portion are closer to that amoeba. The marauder IIC is good and deadly in the right hands but it is also some what fragile due to it's limited torso yaw (was nerfed 3-5 patches ago along wtih Night gyr. MadIIC was able to still function somewhat, while Night Gyr was more affected and thus not nearly as enjoyable to play) and having that lovely plastic armor that we clanners have.
#8
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:40 AM
But so are a lot of other mechs in this game. Is the Dual HGR Mauler too powerful?? Is Madcat Deathstrike too powerful? Is the Battlemaster and it's insanely high mounts too powerful? Is the Warhawk quad ppc too powerful. Not really, they are all assaults, they should be powerful.
At the same time you can have a Flamer commando pants come along and ruin your all powerful Assault mech. Bleh.
Edited by JackalBeast, 12 December 2017 - 11:40 AM.
#9
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:45 AM
Khobai, on 12 December 2017 - 11:34 AM, said:
it doesnt prevent you from running 6 mediums and 2 large lasers, it just prevents you from firing them all at the same time.
it means to deliver a massive laser alpha you need to stay exposed longer
it would help balance laser vomit better with facetime weapons like autocannons
Except ppl wont do that, at best theyll put more mediums or simply drop down in tonnage.
or both...
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cf35091cbc6cd1b
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...ee7ce453ec14322
Edited by davoodoo, 12 December 2017 - 11:49 AM.
#10
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:55 AM
#11
Posted 12 December 2017 - 11:57 AM
#12
Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:11 PM
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then whats the problem? even if you take more mediums you still have to fire them half a second apart.
and if you wanna continue to play a laser vomit madcat IIC youll have to use mediums + larges and also fire them half a second apart. since it doesnt have enough energy hardpoints for more mediums.
you could also still do x2 CERPPC+6 CERML if PPCs and lasers arnt linked. But they probably should be linked too.
Edited by Khobai, 12 December 2017 - 12:16 PM.
#13
Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:17 PM
Promessa, on 12 December 2017 - 11:15 AM, said:
Wait what why is MAD IIC one of the slowest assaults in the game? it has engine cap of 400 which is largest there is and it is second lightest assault weight (85 tons).
#14
Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:18 PM
Do you not know the existence of the MadCat Mk2?
The superior robot
#15
Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:22 PM
Khobai, on 12 December 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:
then whats the problem? even if you take more mediums you still have to fire them half a second apart.
and if you wanna continue to play a laser vomit madcat IIC youll have to use mediums + larges and also fire them half a second apart. since it doesnt have enough energy hardpoints for more mediums.
you could also still do x2 CERPPC+6 CERML if PPCs and lasers arnt linked. But they probably should be linked too.
Havent you seen which mechs do that? mediums...I wont ever use energy on assault if my firepower will be at best at lvl of medium mech with few extra dhs...
laservomit is as weak as it can possibly get before becoming unviable.
just look at ebj, mere decoupling ermeds from lpl killed laservomit on them...
Edited by davoodoo, 12 December 2017 - 12:27 PM.
#16
Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:31 PM
Otherwise I think they are pretty on par with other Clan assualts (Mad Cat IMO is better)
Edited by Gristle Missile, 12 December 2017 - 04:47 PM.
#17
Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:39 PM
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thats why large lasers need a higher ghost heat limit
which is exactly what ive been saying
link medium + large lasers but increase the ghost heat limit on large lasers
Edited by Khobai, 12 December 2017 - 12:40 PM.
#18
Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:46 PM
Khobai, on 12 December 2017 - 12:39 PM, said:
thats why large lasers need a higher ghost heat limit
which is exactly what ive been saying
link medium + large lasers but increase the ghost heat limit on large lasers
It doesnt matter, ill rather take faster and smaller medium so somebody can take heavier mechs with ballistics while larges will remain unused.
Remember when they linked lrm5 with rest of the lurms?? remember which "caliber" was hurt the most? the one which was already performing badly.
Edited by davoodoo, 12 December 2017 - 12:51 PM.
#20
Posted 12 December 2017 - 12:51 PM
I've resolved to just blow both torsos off them now, I dont' even bother with the CT.
Also, if you're eating a full Clan laser vom alpha, you've done something terribly wrong. Its easy to splash that damage all over the place by simultaneously twisting your legs and torso...which causes your torso(and crotch) to both splash damage. You're kinda SOL if hes a good shot and aiming at your head though.
Most people can't aim with High alpha laser vomit, its pretty funny. In a commando its out right hilarious. If they have HLLs and ERs oh man, they just scrap you. Then they panic, and overheat...its pretty entertaining.
Edited by Humpday, 12 December 2017 - 02:46 PM.
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