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[CK16]

So seriously....excluding the KDK-3 and 4 here as those are fire support mechs by trade....the 1,2,5 & Spirit Bear deserve to get their agility back....Kodiak's are supposed to be one of the most mobile and agile assault mechs in this franchise, hot and brawly, something feared up close! I find them in a sad state since the nerfs because of the KDK-3 debacle and base agility set to slug like all other 100 tonners....The Spirit Bear got a really nasty slap on its wrists for being to good at brawling (the only good thing it could do really...) But now even that mech is tame even at its peak it may have been behind the Scorch and MCII-2....it's loadout is mild and it's MASC hardly helps it...The other varriants are just as sad if not worse...for energy boats just not enough there to use and be cool..

So please give some of the Kodiak's their brawl niche back please PGI?

Edited by CK16, 13 December 2017 - 06:03 AM.

[JC Daxion]

Didn't they just increase the agility on all 100 tonners?

[Khobai]

they need to increase the acceleration on the kodiak 3 so it can actually walk out of artillery in time

im fine with kodiak torso twist/turning agility being nerfed, because it is a 100 tonner, but no mech should accelerate so slowly that it cant get out of artillery in time

I think 12kph/s acceleration is the bare minimum needed for it to get out of artillery in time (which is about double the acceleration it has now)

Edited by Khobai, 13 December 2017 - 06:28 AM.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

The Spirit Bear being one of the slowest out of all the variants is entirely unacceptable, tbh.

[Zeoraimer]

At least fix the Spirit Bear. Even MASC doesn't save it, and its worlds apart from the EXE, which is only 5 tons lighter - that doesn't make any sense...

[Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie]

could not agree more.

especially the spirit-bear is not usable right now; I've even seen peeple trying it as a lurmboat at times (those desparate souls..).
pls give it back it's agility. was the -one- selling point it had.
right atm, it has to be the most useless 100t we have ingame.

I'm fine with leaving the kdk3 where it is, that thing is still -very- good.

but pls fix the SB. I bought it for real money, as others did - and we all would like to NOT GET PUNISHED for using it. thx

[Mike McSullivan]

Punishment is the right word...-.-
I mastered the SB today. To be honest...buying the Kodiakpack (long time ago) is one of the things i regret the most.

(is it just me or is the internal structure broken? every opened part just goes boom with minimum of incoming damage, as if i loaded it up with ammo)

Edited by Mike McSullivan, 13 December 2017 - 11:17 AM.

[Christophe Ivanov]

Agreed on the Kodiaks...dare I say anything for the Dire Wolfs?

[Trenchbird]

Teenage Mutant Ninja Urbie, on 13 December 2017 - 08:20 AM, said:

could not agree more.

especially the spirit-bear is not usable right now; I've even seen peeple trying it as a lurmboat at times (those desparate souls..).
pls give it back it's agility. was the -one- selling point it had.
right atm, it has to be the most useless 100t we have ingame.

I take it you've never seen an Atlas AS7-K, then.

"But muh experience-"
"But muh quirks-"

It may be an Atlas, but it trades armor quirks, 1M, and 1B over the AS7-D in order to mount the elusive *two AMS*.

The KDK-SB has a higher engine cap and can ape the classic AC20+SRM loadout of the AS7-S with a bigger engine. I'm not saying that it doesn't need an agility buff to do what is advertised (Because I strongly agree), but to say it's the 'Worst 100 tonner' isn't as true as you want it to be.

[davoodoo]

Well tbh engine decoupling was a buff to all kodiaks, as now they retain their agility of 400 rating engine even when dropping down...

same agility as orion 2c, night gyr, nova cat, hunchback 2c, hunchback, catapult, roughneck, banshee, jagermech, thunderbolt, marauder, archer, cataphract, grasshopper, warhammer, black knight, orion, thanathos, victor, zeus and battlemaster.

Edited by davoodoo, 13 December 2017 - 11:59 AM.

[N0ni]

You would think they would at least buff the base model a bit as to try to sell collector packs, but not even getting lucky with Time Wizard will save it now.

[Khobai]

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Well tbh engine decoupling was a buff to all kodiaks, as now they retain their agility of 400 rating engine even when dropping down...

the kodiak 3 certainly doesnt

[davoodoo]

Khobai, on 13 December 2017 - 11:59 AM, said:

the kodiak 3 certainly doesnt

Nope it still got 400 rating agility.

Its the lack of quirks that is responsible for decrease in agility not decoupling, which simply used base engine as agility model and i can at least see why they did that as it made mechs like boar head slightly more attractive.

Edited by davoodoo, 13 December 2017 - 12:12 PM.

[Humpday]

- Well, they really need to Un-nerf the KDK3 to bring it at least up to par with the other KDKs.
- Remove the Negative Mobility penalties on the Timerwolf
- Un nerf the freaking Night Gry for christ sake. At least give it mobility specs of a 90-95 Tonner, not a 100ton mech. Geez PGI...what in the world is the logic behind your decisions?

Looks at this...I'm becoming discontent with PGI now like the rest of you. I've not even been around for a full year yet.
I always wondered why the player base is always salty and frustrated...this crap.

[davoodoo]

Humpday, on 13 December 2017 - 12:15 PM, said:

- Un nerf the freaking Night Gry for christ sake. At least give it mobility specs of a 90-95 Tonner, not a 100ton mech. Geez PGI...what in the world is the logic behind your decisions?

Well it got mobility of 50 ton medium gunboat

or 4 times their weight in engine rating which is pretty standard for is mechs for which it gets ability to carry weaponry worthy of assault mech.

Edited by davoodoo, 13 December 2017 - 12:29 PM.

[Humpday]

davoodoo, on 13 December 2017 - 12:22 PM, said:

Well it got mobility of 50 ton medium gunboat

or 4 times their weight in engine rating which is pretty standard for is mechs for which it gets ability to carry weaponry worthy of assault mech.

Don't follow, 50ton gun boat?

[davoodoo]

Humpday, on 13 December 2017 - 02:13 PM, said:

Don't follow, 50ton gun boat?

hunchback got same agility as kodiak night gyr, nearly all is heavies and more agile is assaults.

Funnily enough urbanmech got lowest agility on par with annihilator.

Edited by davoodoo, 13 December 2017 - 02:17 PM.

[CFC Conky]

I remember the Kodiak in the MW2: Ghost Bear's Legacy intro video could torso twist very quickly. With all the changes to the weapons lately, maybe the 100-tonners should get some agility back.

Good hunting,
CFC Conky

Edited by CFC Conky, 13 December 2017 - 03:01 PM.

[Khobai]

the annihilator is proof that a 100 tonner can work without needing good torso twist

they just need good hitboxes... which most of them DONT have.

[davoodoo]

Khobai, on 13 December 2017 - 03:11 PM, said:

the annihilator is proof that a 100 tonner can work without needing good torso twist

they just need good hitboxes... which most of them DONT have.

You forgot that they also need to carry shitton of scary firepower which most cant do and even if they all had amount of hardpoint anni does then wheres the joy of each and every of them being ballistic boat.

Edited by davoodoo, 13 December 2017 - 03:17 PM.