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[Armored Yokai]

Some of these are ideas
Colonel Wayne Waco's Battlemaster 'Rogers' comes with 7 missile and 7 Energy.

Paula Trevaline's Orion 'No name?' (Call it Lady Death or Mistress Pain)it's standard but give it x2 AC10s and split them in each side torso and 4-6 Laser (DOUBLE HGAUSS ORION)

Lord Jedra Kean's Atlas 'Jedra' (Call it Sword Breaker) 2 ballistic in arms 5 Energy in the torso
and 1 missile in the center

Adam Steiner's Awesome 9MA (Call it Liberator or Victory) it comes with ECM and Command Console and 2 tons of comms equipment so replace those 2 tons with more weapons.

Zvi Freyr's Commando (Call it Renegade) It's Clan tech but Make it I.S and keep the 6 JJs

Hohiro Utsonomiya's Hunchback (Call it Stalwart or some Loyal name) It comes with UAC10 and 2 MPL and 1 ERSL and C3 (Give it UAC quirks and ECM)

Nicolai Malthus's Summoner M (Call it Warrior or Crusader) it's stock but replace the Ballistic with more Energy/Missiles but with extra quirks and maybe remove leg jumpjets



Variants but most of them have lack of tech problems:

Banshee 6S (1 Hgauss and 1 LBX20)
Awesome 10KM (2HPPC 1Snub and 1 ECM Compact Engine or Gyro removed)
Marauder 5L (ECM but no TSM)
Quickdraw 5M/5Mr (ECM and upgrades to the 4G)
Atlas K2 (Comes with JJs but it's in 3085)
Thunderbolt 7SE (ECM)
Kintaro K (Streaks and JJs)

Uncanon:

Maddog with Arm missiles
Locust with JJs
Urbanmech with 14 Laser or Ballistic with 100 XL engine
65 ton I.S Variant with 7-10 Laser/Missile and 390XL and Jumpjets(Exterminator but PGI can't code)
Hunchback with JJs
Centurion with JJs ECM and 325 XL
Crab with 360 XL JJs ECM and around 10 Laser
Hellbringer with JJs and Masc
Gargoyle with JJs and MASC or 320 XL and more Missile hardpoints
Stalker with 360 Engine and JJs
Zeus with JJs
Stormcrow with JJs
Orion with JJs and 400 XL
Annihilator with 4 MRM 40s in each location
Rifleman with JJs
Warhammer with JJs MASC and 340 engine
Dragon with JJs
Maddog with JJs
Battlemaster with JJs and ECM
Adder with 325 Engine and JJs
Hellspawn with 360 XL + 10 Leg armor and 8 Laser
Fenris with JJs

Edited by Armored Yokai, 19 December 2017 - 07:55 AM.

[Juodas Varnas]

Centered Cockpit for Malthus's Thor or bust!

[El Bandito]

Armored Yokai, on 19 December 2017 - 04:03 AM, said:

Stalker with 360 Engine and JJs

Stalker with ballistic arms!

Edited by El Bandito, 19 December 2017 - 04:48 AM.

[Jonathan8883]

We still need a Hunchback IIC hero.

[Tarogato]

Full list of variants not yet in MWO (only missing a couple newer chasses) https://www.reddit.c..._loyalty_mechs/

Armored Yokai, on 19 December 2017 - 04:03 AM, said:

Maddog with Arm missiles

The whole point of the Mad Dog is that it's designed to carry missiles in the torsos...

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Urbanmech with 14 Laser or Ballistic with 100 XL engine

Dafuq.

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Hunchback with JJs

HBK-5S

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Centurion with JJs ECM and 325 XL

CN9-D9 has JJs, 390 max engine, no ECM on any Cents though.

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Crab with 360 XL JJs ECM and around 10 Laser

That's powercreep. CRB-30 has ECM, though.

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Hellbringer with JJs and Masc

Pretty sure you can't add MASC to an omnimech that doesn't already have it. HBR-E has jumpjets, though.

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Gargoyle with JJs and MASC or 320 XL and more Missile hardpoints

Garbro isn't supposed to be a missile boat. Also, you can't change engine sizes on omnimechs, and ... same thing about the MASC.

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Stalker with 360 Engine and JJs

That's ridiculous powercreep.

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Zeus with JJs

ZEU-X3 in the year 3089 has them. =3

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Orion with JJs and 400 XL

Why are you specifying an engine type?

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Annihilator with 4 MRM 40s in each location

Can only fit like 5 tons of ammo, with only 10 heatsinks, and only 48kph. Impractical.

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Rifleman with JJs

RFL-8D has jumpjets.

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Warhammer with JJs MASC and 340 engine

WHM-9D has jumpjets. Why do you want MASC, too? You're like a child in a candy shop who wants ALL the things. Also, you won't get a 340 engine. Stock engines have to be a multiple of the mech's tonnage, and PGI engines only differ from a strict formula based on that for extenuating circumstances.

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Dragon with JJs
Maddog with JJs
Battlemaster with JJs and ECM

Why do you want to powercreep all the things? BLR-CM does have jumpjets btw, but same engine cap as the Stalkers. BLR-10S has ECM, but also same low engine cap (305/310).

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Adder with 325 Engine and JJs

Omnimech locked engine can't change.

[Bombast]

Heroe, you say...

https://mwomercs.com...brb-bigger-ben/

Edited by Bombast, 19 December 2017 - 06:18 AM.

[CK16]

This was the hero Mad Dog I always wanted....

Also they should have added the Mad Dog D then as then the hero would be the only option with CT weapons...

Bishop Steiner, on 01 March 2017 - 09:55 AM, said:

[Armored Yokai]

Tarogato, on 19 December 2017 - 05:52 AM, said:

Omnimech locked engine can't change.

We can change the Armor values which isnt supposed to happen, i don't think it would hurt to have a Omnimech variant with a Smaller/Bigger engine.

[Tarogato]

Armored Yokai, on 19 December 2017 - 06:16 AM, said:

We can change the Armor values which isnt supposed to happen, i don't think it would hurt to have a Omnimech variant with a Smaller/Bigger engine.

Locked armour values would completely break omnimech balance, making several of them utterly unplayable. It's an unreasonable limitation for MWO, that's why it was thrown out.

Locked engine size does not completely break a chassis. You can build around it. It's a reasonable limitation, that's why it was kept.

[GrimReaper74]

Jonathan8883, on 19 December 2017 - 05:23 AM, said:

We still need a Hunchback IIC hero.

https://mwomercs.com/clan-iic-heroes

The Deathwish Hunchback IIC hero.
That one will be available for 3750 MC on March 6th 2018 but is already in the webpage store for 15$
Based on the fact, that 3000 MC are nearly 15$ as well, you are better off with the webpage store.

[Armored Yokai]

Tarogato, on 19 December 2017 - 06:20 AM, said:

Locked engine size does not completely break a chassis.

Neither does a slighty lowered or increased engine on the other mechs like Badder and Gargoyle

[Tarogato]

Armored Yokai, on 19 December 2017 - 06:31 AM, said:

Neither does a slighty lowered or increased engine on the other mechs like Badder and Gargoyle

And if you can fine tune your engine to a better rating, and swap to best possible hardpoints, then what's the reason to play a battlemech anymore? Not only will you potentially powercreep omnimechs that are already very good, but you're giving omnimechs a quality that is right now reserved to differentiate battlemechs from omnimechs and keep omnimechs in check.

[Armored Yokai]

Tarogato, on 19 December 2017 - 06:44 AM, said:

omnimechs a quality that is right now reserved to differentiate battlemechs from omnimechs and keep omnimechs in check.

I'll still use Battlemechs and I'm highly positive people will still use battlemechs more than omnis
but enough about the balance, we both know we aren't going to change our minds on this kind of subject.

Edited by Armored Yokai, 19 December 2017 - 06:55 AM.

[ScrapIron Prime]

Armored Yokai, on 19 December 2017 - 04:03 AM, said:

Paula Trevaline's Orion 'No name?' (Call it Lady Death or Mistress Pain)it's standard but give it x2 AC10s in each side torso and 4-6 Laser (DOUBLE HGAUSS ORION)

AC/10's are 7 crit slots each. You can't fit 2 in a side torso. Play with the annihilator if you need proof. In fact, you need the annihilator's raw tonnage if you want to run 4 AC/10's.

But for the lulz, let's design this hero mech with 4 LBX-10's, 2 in each side torso. That means a standard engine, so we'll give it a 225, enough for the lore mech to clear 50 kph. Add endosteel, the 10th heat sink, and 4 ER small lasers, 7 tons of ammo for the LBX. And there you go. Except you only have 2 tons remaining for armor, so you have half the armor of a Locust on a mech with the speed of an Annihilator.

Yay math.

Edited by ScrapIron Prime, 19 December 2017 - 07:07 AM.

[Armored Yokai]

ScrapIron Prime, on 19 December 2017 - 07:06 AM, said:

AC/10's are 7 crit slots each. You can't fit 2 in a side torso.

I said each...

[Bombast]

Armored Yokai, on 19 December 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

I said each...

The way you worded it was quite clear - 2 in each torso.

[- World Eater -]

We still need a proper Hunchback IIC hero i.e. this one:

[Jonathan8883]

Funny thing, I actually have those in a bin somewhere. Once I find them, I'm planning to put them on E-bay.

GrimReaper74, on 19 December 2017 - 06:24 AM, said:

https://mwomercs.com/clan-iic-heroes

The Deathwish Hunchback IIC hero.
That one will be available for 3750 MC on March 6th 2018 but is already in the webpage store for 15$
Based on the fact, that 3000 MC are nearly 15$ as well, you are better off with the webpage store.

Ah, the website store prevents me from spending money again! I would have bought that when shopping, if I'd been able to find it.

[Tarogato]

Armored Yokai, on 19 December 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

I'll still use Battlemechs and I'm highly positive people will still use battlemechs more than omnis
but enough about the balance, we both know we aren't going to change our minds on this kind of subject.

This is true. It's one of those very fundamental things that I think people who disagree on it will never achieve victory or compromise. =P

Armored Yokai, on 19 December 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

I said each...

Well, you definitely worded it funny. "An AC10 in each side torso" would be better.

Similarly, you said "Annihilator with 4 MRM 40s in each location" which implies a total of 16x MRM40. Which is so ridiculous that I figured out what you meant.

[Glaive-]

The uncannon list is killing me


14 laser urbanmech??
JJ's on a Stormcrow?
"""FENRIS"""????

W H Y


It's called an Ice Ferret