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[Davegt27]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/208145385

time hack 8:26:50

coming according to Russ "springish"

what we know

1)competition seasons will last 3 months

2)every known Mech variant is divided in to 7 divisions, players can pick any division and there are no weight restrictions



3)each division is based on a number of properties from load-outs and profiles to flat out battlefield viabilities??

4)this pic shows contract length and tier level


5)Format for game play is either 1V1 or 2V2

6)Elo to be used using the higher players ELO ??


7)Mech warrior stats are tracked separately in solo and group matches??

you can see there will be two leader boards



8)Matchmaking will be used but??


9)Patrons ?? and sponsors





10)Bolt-ons you can bolt on stuff to your Mech




*note question marks are next to areas that are not clear

Edited by Davegt27, 22 December 2017 - 02:30 AM.

[sycocys]

Yen-Lo is a tier 2 mech, that means they must be either running their tier system backwards or they have lost their minds.

[Humpday]

Um I think you forget, they collect analytics... therefore you are wrong.

[kesmai]

sycocys, on 22 December 2017 - 02:43 AM, said:

Yen-Lo is a tier 2 mech, that means they must be either running their tier system backwards or they have lost their minds.

Exactly this!
Their fault not to put into tier 1.

Edited by kesmai, 22 December 2017 - 02:59 AM.

[5th Fedcom Rat]

sycocys, on 22 December 2017 - 02:43 AM, said:

Yen-Lo is a tier 2 mech, that means they must be either running their tier system backwards or they have lost their minds.

Anything that can mount an AC-20 effectively will be in the top 3 tiers.

[Davegt27]

sycocys, on 22 December 2017 - 02:43 AM, said:

Yen-Lo is a tier 2 mech, that means they must be either running their tier system backwards or they have lost their minds.

looks like the Awesome is selected in the first pic

D1 for division 1
still a ? if the tier is for the pilot or the mech

[LordNothing]

Davegt27, on 22 December 2017 - 03:22 AM, said:

looks like the Awesome is selected in the first pic

D1 for division 1
still a ? if the tier is for the pilot or the mech

if they are using elo then player tier in solaris would be completely decoupled from their psr tier. it would be interesting to compare psr to solaris elo to see how many players actually belong in t1.

Edited by LordNothing, 22 December 2017 - 03:27 AM.

[FupDup]

sycocys, on 22 December 2017 - 02:43 AM, said:

Yen-Lo is a tier 2 mech, that means they must be either running their tier system backwards or they have lost their minds.

The tier level in the photo represents player PSR I thought?

I'm assuming that the little "D#" designation on each mech would be the Power Level of the mech in question, although that would also be pretty stupid (they put the AWS-8Q in Division 1 but the KDK-1 in Div 2, The Ilya Muromets is only slightly above the Wolfhound, etc.).

Edited by FupDup, 22 December 2017 - 04:20 AM.

[sycocys]

FupDup, on 22 December 2017 - 04:20 AM, said:

The tier level in the photo represents player PSR I thought?

I'm assuming that the little "D#" designation on each mech would be the Power Level of the mech in question, although that would also be pretty stupid (they put the AWS-8Q in Division 1 but the KDK-1 in Div 2, The Ilya Muromets is only slightly above the Wolfhound, etc.).

The way it looks to me and that I understood what they are setting up is that the "tier" selection is for the mech divisions - so that would be the list of Tier 2 mechs that you contracted to fight in that division for.

I can see what you are saying about the D# listing but to me that doesn't really make sense to me - why would they list all the tiers of mechs along side each other in order if you can only select one for a specific (or even contracted) tier level?
Also it seems like that listing route would still be off as you mentioned.

[Asym]

LordNothing, on 22 December 2017 - 03:27 AM, said:

if they are using elo then player tier in solaris would be completely decoupled from their psr tier. it would be interesting to compare psr to solaris elo to see how many players actually belong in t1.

That is the whole point of Solaris.

Good luck guys ! For this crusty oldish-newer pilot: NO, never, nyet, nine, or no in any other language....... not gonna happen no matter what they do because it will all be "farming" at a historic level....

[Beaching Betty]

YLW > Everything

[KodiakGW]

They kind of glossed over the whole Division thing. Also, they used the word Division, not Tier. So who knows if Tier really references your Elo level. Hopefully that means eventually the 20/1 win players will only be playing fellow 20/1 players. So those that are breaking even will not have to face them. We still really can only guess what the S7 D5 Box next to the mech means. But, I think the D5 box means Division 5 for Yen Lo.

As for Elo used in 1v1 or 2v2...seems appropriate for that use. I mean, you get to choose if you want to CARRY HARDER a single lower Elo person for 2v2. If you win or lose, it is completely on you.

Still hoping for a Urbie only Division. I’m sure that will entice some of the “No way in hell” people. Who wouldn’t love to play Urbie v Urbie that can get you money, XP, and whatever those ACC points will let you get.


HOLY SHAZBOT! Did I just actually defend them???

[Asym]

Hey KodiacGW........me: no way I am letting you farm me.........even in my new R68(L) which I do really like !! Nope, not gonna happen !

[Jonathan8883]

It's worth a try. If nothing else, it should make for faster matches when I don't have much time to play.
For those who play more mobile mechs (Shadow Cat is my favorite mech), it's also going to be a good place to work on dodging and precise aiming.

[JediPanther]

urbie tier 1 on day 1.

[Darrious Quinn]

KodiakGW, on 22 December 2017 - 08:44 AM, said:

They kind of glossed over the whole Division thing. Also, they used the word Division, not Tier. So who knows if Tier really references your Elo level. Hopefully that means eventually the 20/1 win players will only be playing fellow 20/1 players. So those that are breaking even will not have to face them. We still really can only guess what the S7 D5 Box next to the mech means. But, I think the D5 box means Division 5 for Yen Lo.

As for Elo used in 1v1 or 2v2...seems appropriate for that use. I mean, you get to choose if you want to CARRY HARDER a single lower Elo person for 2v2. If you win or lose, it is completely on you.

Still hoping for a Urbie only Division. I’m sure that will entice some of the “No way in hell” people. Who wouldn’t love to play Urbie v Urbie that can get you money, XP, and whatever those ACC points will let you get.


HOLY SHAZBOT! Did I just actually defend them???

People are defiantly mixing up ideas with mismatched terms.
Mechs are assigned to DIVISIONS. Tier is irrelevant as are Mech Tiers as each mech is placed into a Division based on specific attributes.
The mechs are assigned to each Division based on parameters not released to us yet.
The ONLY two things we know for sure about Divisions is that all players can participate in any Division and Divisions do not have weight limitations.

Restating what Kodiak said, ELO is being used in the following way:
1v1: Highest ELO will match with each other WITHIN a Division
2v2: Lowest ELO on the TEAM will be used for Divisional match making.


I for one would love to see an Urbie Division. Maybe there can be some overlapping love with the Event Widget in game now where S7 could have a special Urbie Division event or something.

I'm glad they went back to ELO for the 1v1 and 2v2. Too many folks out here think they are Kerensky's Gift to mech combat just because they are T1 in QP. I look forward to seeing how many unknowns end up doing well in the arena.

[Davegt27]

one thing to note "flat out battlefield viabilities"

that sounds like Mechs will have BV battle value or combat effectiveness rating

edit: Quinn I think its the higher ELO player's ELO is used for 2V2

I also think ELO will not be used for 1V1 it will be straight up head to head

I put question marks because that is not clear??

Edited by Davegt27, 22 December 2017 - 11:31 AM.

[Khobai]

I loathe the idea of having 7 different divisions for mechs

it means PGI has no intention of properly balancing mechs ever

the whole thing is an eschewal to not having to balance their game properly

[TWIAFU]

JediPanther, on 22 December 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

urbie tier 1 on day 1.

I loathe the Solaris we are being presented and have no intention to participate.

However, all Urbies and Duncan....

Yea, that would be fun.

[SirSoggyDog]

In all honesty, to balance Solaris so that all mechs have a good chance vs all other mechs in a dueling setting would destroy balance for the rest of the game. How's a long range fire-support mech like the Summoner supposed to stand toe to toe with an 8 SRM6 Archer in a duel without also being far too powerful in it's intended roll on a QP match in Polar Highlands?

Edited by SirSoggyDog, 22 December 2017 - 11:47 AM.