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[IL MECHWARRIOR]

tharkad stats

IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45

Clan Win/Less Ratio: 8145/9339 = 0.87


clan confirmed OP lol


Since this clever, deep minded and intelligent playerbase that populates these forums still thinks clans are OP, there must be some sort of voodoo that makes clanners lose twice as much as IS

Edited by anonymous223, 23 December 2017 - 06:12 AM.

[Damnedtroll]

SO you were probably on Clan side and destroyed their chances?

[IL MECHWARRIOR]

nah, i was only there to carry some 4k and 5k games, but apparently was not enough

[Appogee]

All this tells me is that most of the big merc units went IS for the event. Merc units and our teamwork OP.

EDIT:

Having looked at the stats, the reason becomes even clearer. There were 4.5x as many Scouting Matches as there were "Siege" matches (the term by which I think the Community Manager actually meant "all Invasion modes except Scouting").

IS has the competitive advantage in Scouting, thanks to Assassin, Bushwacker and Griffin... particularly in an event where there was an objective of achieving a certain damage/match score, not just winning.

Edited by Appogee, 23 December 2017 - 06:48 AM.

[Oldbob10025]

From what I understood some big clanners whet to the IS side and thats why the numbers were flipped to favor the IS side.

[Michael Abt]

[Alexandra Hekmatyar]

Oldbob10025, on 23 December 2017 - 06:34 AM, said:

From what I understood some big clanners whet to the IS side and thats why the numbers were flipped to favor the IS side.

That's basically it yeah.

[Johnathan Tanner]

Oldbob10025, on 23 December 2017 - 06:34 AM, said:

From what I understood some big clanners whet to the IS side and thats why the numbers were flipped to favor the IS side.

And were gonna do it again. IS OP/ Clan OP HAHAHAHA. MERC OP!

[TWIAFU]

anonymous223, on 23 December 2017 - 06:13 AM, said:

nah, i was only there to carry some 4k and 5k games, but apparently was not enough

Not using 11 others for shields to pad your damage, nope, not enough.

Maybe next time.

[MischiefSC]

IS dominated scouting because Clan pilots are incredibly bad and without a significant tech advantage, which in scouting they really don't have.

However even with all the units in IS the Clans still win the great majority of invasion matches. That's how bad it was.

[El Bandito]

(MS) played as IS every day except for the last two days and helped the IS to steamroll Clans. Once (MS) switched to Clans in the last two days, Clans won those days. So yeah, Mercs OP.

We had three drop ships full of unit members during prime time.

Edited by El Bandito, 23 December 2017 - 05:17 PM.

[Quandoo]

IS is just OP because of the low heat high dmg but low range weapons. When you can charge in, your doing like 50% more dmg in the same time. Clan gets nerfed every patch - and now they overnerfed it.

Edited by Quandoo, 23 December 2017 - 09:42 AM.

[Thorqemada]

Btw. the IS math is wrong so grab yourself a calculator and recalculate the numbers - hint: it is not 1.45...

Edited by Thorqemada, 23 December 2017 - 10:08 AM.

[MischiefSC]

Quandoo, on 23 December 2017 - 09:40 AM, said:

IS is just OP because of the low heat high dmg but low range weapons. When you can charge in, your doing like 50% more dmg in the same time. Clan gets nerfed every patch - and now they overnerfed it.

No.

Clan mechs still have better burst DPS, better sustained DPS and better damage per tic.

Given that you're usually doing 20 more damage per trigger pull the +8 health over 3 locations that IS mechs have isn't that useful.

Clans have dominated every season of FW for a reason.

[FallingAce]

https://mwomercs.com...e-tharkad-stats

Quote

Total Wins for IS:
Siege: 1674
Scouting: 7665

Total Wins for Clans:
Siege: 1499
Scouting: 6646

3173 Seige matches
I.S. won 52.76%
Clans won 47.24%

14,311 Scouting matches
I.S won 53.56%
Clan won 46.44%

Clearly a clan victory

Edited by FallingAce, 23 December 2017 - 10:40 AM.

[Tarl Cabot]

anonymous223, on 23 December 2017 - 05:57 AM, said:

tharkad stats

IS Win/Loss Ratio: 9339/8145 = 1.45

Clan Win/Less Ratio: 8145/9339 = 0.87

That 1.45% is actually 1.14659%.. looks like someone dropped a 1...Matt, was this you? You and your ones.. ... IS has an extra win due to having 1 more ghost drop than the Clans. Unknown how many ghost drops there may have been overall.

And you did see that Steiner now holds Tharkad, hai? Cannot wait for that explanation, but it is likely due to Matt furbar the initial Tharkad setup, not being aware of it until AFTER the event ended, thus changing it from a Clan win to a stalemate/tie.

Edit.. Just to add, if Tharkad ToW had been setup the same way as Luthien's, the Clans would have still won instead of it being a stalemate/tie. With those battles then being worth 1%, the Clans would have had it with 94% (6 battles won) since 90% would have been the winning mark. FYI Luthien had pulled it back from the abyss by 23 battles, the ToW ending at 77%.

Edited by Tarl Cabot, 23 December 2017 - 10:52 AM.

[MischiefSC]

If IS won more total invasion matches I'm all for it being an IS win. The whole "whoever wins the last 2 hours wins the event" crap always bugged me.

What's sad is only 2 merc units flipped and that was enough to massively swing the bar.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

MischiefSC, on 23 December 2017 - 07:52 AM, said:

IS dominated scouting because Clan pilots are incredibly bad and without a significant tech advantage, which in scouting they really don't have.

However even with all the units in IS the Clans still win the great majority of invasion matches. That's how bad it was.

IS won the majority in invasion *and* scouting though.

[MischiefSC]

Dakota1000, on 23 December 2017 - 01:11 PM, said:

IS won the majority in invasion *and* scouting though.

Saw that. So call it an IS win, I was just bemoaning that population was so low that two merc units is enough to completely swing the event.

[Naglinator]

Just waiting for Ash to input his usual "clams mechs = Ez Mode"