23 replies to this topic

[Yumoshiri]

hi guys, i was wondering about this little fellow with its huge engine - why do we torture it with having only ferro and not endo? is this a tight lore thing?

at first i thought it was to compensate for the clans awesomeness to take ferro before endo, but the nova cat already disapproves that

mechanic wise, considering it a light harasser, like all other harassers, it needs both endo and ferro in my opinion. perhaps finally there would be a way to utilize all those slots on this mech.

[FupDup]

The Ice Fridge does come with Endo, actually.

[Bombast]

The Ice Ferret has both Endo and Ferro (And XL, meaning it has the trifecta). I think you're confused.

Edited by Bombast, 28 December 2017 - 11:40 AM.

[Khobai]

although there are omnimechs that only have ferro. or dont even have either ferro or endo.

and theyre not well compensated for it.

locked equipment is much the same. mechs like the executioner just dont get compensated for having locked equipment.

Edited by Khobai, 28 December 2017 - 11:51 AM.

[FupDup]

Khobai, on 28 December 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

although there are omnimechs that only have ferro. or dont even have either ferro or endo.

and theyre not well compensated for it.

locked equipment is much the same. mechs like the executioner just dont get compensated for having locked equipment.

It would be nice if said locked equipment was just useful on its own merits, then it wouldn't be a problem. People rarely complain about having DHS locked inside their engine slots, for example. I'm sure nobody would complain if a Clan Omni came along and had 2 hardlocked ERMLas or something.

[Khobai]

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It would be nice if said locked equipment was just useful on its own merits

PGI needs to give the executioner jumpjet quirks

I can already get an executioner on top of the wall in HPG if thats what people are so worried about. So its not like buffing its JJs would suddenly allow it to go anywhere it cant already go.


Any heavy or assault mech thats forced to take locked JJs should have JJs quirks.

The mechs without locked JJs have the option not to use JJs, so they dont need JJ quirks.


And any mech without ferro or endo should get better quirks as well to make up for the potential loss in tonnage. Thats one of the reasons the direwolf should at least have structure quirks. Because it doesnt get endo or ferro or bigger than a 300 engine.

Edited by Khobai, 28 December 2017 - 12:03 PM.

[Mystere]

Khobai, on 28 December 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

although there are omnimechs that only have ferro. or dont even have either ferro or endo.

and theyre not well compensated for it.

locked equipment is much the same. mechs like the executioner just dont get compensated for having locked equipment.

And the Timber Wolf. Don't forget the Timber Wolf!

[Khobai]

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And the Timber Wolf. Don't forget the Timber Wolf!

the timberwolf has both endo and ferro and doesnt really suffer from locked jumpjets since theyre not on every variant.

so from that perspective the timberwolf is fine.

where the timberwolf suffers is the completely unnecessary negative quirks. it should also have better than average agility for a 75 tonner because of its massive oversized engine.

the timberwolf should have the same baseline agility as a 65-70 ton mech. it should not pilot like a dumptruck on a high gravity planet.

but yeah the timberwolf needs help too. just not for the same reason as the executioner.

Edited by Khobai, 28 December 2017 - 01:21 PM.

[Mystere]

Khobai, on 28 December 2017 - 01:15 PM, said:

the timberwolf has both endo and ferro and doesnt really suffer from locked jumpjets since theyre not on every variant.

so from that perspective the timberwolf is fine.

where the timberwolf suffers is the completely unnecessary negative quirks. it should also have better than average agility for a 75 tonner because of its massive oversized engine.

the timberwolf should have the baseline agility of a 65-70 ton mech.

That is precisely what I was referring to.


Still using a phone or table to post?

Edited by Mystere, 28 December 2017 - 01:19 PM.

[Khobai]

im using my asus tablet

the same one I play MWO on at 12 fps lol

im hopefully getting a new laptop this week though, got a nice christmas bonus

[Yumoshiri]

whops, must have been something in my drink!

[Bombast]

Yumoshiri, on 28 December 2017 - 03:29 PM, said:

whops, must have been something in my drink!

Perhaps you were thinking of the Gargoyle. They're easy to get mixed up.

[Trenchbird]

In that both are goofy as hell to look at?

[Deathlike]

FupDup, on 28 December 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

It would be nice if said locked equipment was just useful on its own merits, then it wouldn't be a problem. People rarely complain about having DHS locked inside their engine slots, for example. I'm sure nobody would complain if a Clan Omni came along and had 2 hardlocked ERMLas or something.

Well, since the Mist Crit Lynx became great again, the hardlocked BAP stays.

Balance achieved!

[Deathlike]

The Ice Fridge actually used to be really good before the Skill Tree became a thing. Now it's just holding all teh beer.

Poor Fridge.

[N0ni]

Ice Fridge was still okay up until the energy nerf. Still okay-ish now, but not the clan Cicada it once was.

[El Bandito]

Khobai, on 28 December 2017 - 11:49 AM, said:

although there are omnimechs that only have ferro. or dont even have either ferro or endo.

and theyre not well compensated for it.

locked equipment is much the same. mechs like the executioner just dont get compensated for having locked equipment.

Exe is partly compensated by ridiculous amount of mobility post engine desync, and quirks. It is as agile as a 65 ton mech.

Edited by El Bandito, 28 December 2017 - 07:25 PM.

[InspectorG]

RIP SPL Ice Box.

Had fun poking fat mechs with that.

[RAM]

Mystere, on 28 December 2017 - 01:18 PM, said:

Still using a table to post?

Those Smart Tables and iTables are all the rage this holiday season


RAM
ELH

[N0ni]

RAM, on 28 December 2017 - 11:50 PM, said:

Those Smart Tables and iTables are all the rage this holiday season

Yep, i picked up a Nokie Cyborg Table and it's as of right now resting on my Table Classic.