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[riverslq]

Stock mechs only.

Why not? You want lore? you got lore.

What the mech came with is what you got.

It would get rid of the meta, and definitely min/max.
Maybe make it interesting to play, not who can bring 8 med heavy this, or 17 atms, or 12 ssrms.

[FupDup]

There's still a stock meta.

[riverslq]

FupDup, on 29 December 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

There's still a stock meta.

Yes there is, but people will still have to conserve ammo, use certain weapons in certain situations, and generally not have 75 point alphas to the legs each shot.

[Bombast]

Stock meta is arguably even more strict than MechLab meta. Particularly with armor values how they are.

It also renders the IS a useless pile of 'Why the **** even bother.'

[riverslq]

Bombast, on 29 December 2017 - 08:41 PM, said:

Stock meta is arguably even more strict than MechLab meta. Particularly with armor values how they are.

It also renders the IS a useless pile of 'Why the **** even bother.'

Thats up to PGI to figure out.

riverslq, on 29 December 2017 - 08:49 PM, said:

Thats up to PGI to figure out.

I personally don't enjoy min/maxing the !@# out of things, or the current meta.
Then you have trial mechs being brought in during events, might as well roll with it.

[Bombast]

riverslq, on 29 December 2017 - 08:49 PM, said:

Thats up to PGI to figure out.

No, its up to you to figure out. Its your dumb idea.

[El Bandito]

riverslq, on 29 December 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

Stock mechs only.

Why not? You want lore? you got lore.

What the mech came with is what you got.

It would get rid of the meta, and definitely min/max.

Oh you sweet summer child., You have no idea about the stock mech meta, and min/maxing.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Oh darn, I thought you were joking on that other thread that you suggested this on. Its a terrible idea.

[riverslq]

Bombast, on 29 December 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

No, its up to you to figure out. Its your dumb idea.

It's your dumb idea to comment, but hey, don't actually be helpful, be a ****.

Dakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:

Oh darn, I thought you were joking on that other thread that you suggested this on. Its a terrible idea.

nope not joking. FP is a joke the way it is.
who can bring the same mech loaded with 9 of the same weapons.
I mean really, thats ******* ridiculous.

and you wonder why people dont play FP outside of event time.

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 08:58 PM, said:

Oh you sweet summer child., You have no idea about the stock mech meta, and min/maxing.

I've been here as long or longer than you so yes I do.

[El Bandito]

riverslq, on 29 December 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

I've been here as long or longer than you so yes I do.

If you truly knew, then you wouldn't be making this thread.

[riverslq]

El Bandito, on 29 December 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

If you truly knew, then you wouldn't be making this thread.

Then you come up with a way to make FP enjoyable.
Thats all I'm asking here..

Because right now with the premade vs pugs its crap.
Not the pugs fault 12 mans cant find anyone to go up against unless they wait 2 hours.
That's on PGI.

[Bombast]

riverslq, on 29 December 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

It's your dumb idea to comment, but hey, don't actually be helpful, be a ****.

I was as helpful as I could possibly be, with such a vague, poorly considered plan - a Stock FP Mode would be terrible. IS-Clan balance wouldn't just be non-existent - It would be completely, absolutely impossible to achieve. There's no way you could make even a 20th of the IS chassis usable in such a mode. There's maybe 5 IS mechs in the game right now that would actually be viable in such a mode.

You wouldn't get rid of the meta, you'd replace it. You wouldn't get rid of Min/Maxing, you'd just change what was min and what was max. Your idea doesn't make sense, it's poorly conceived, poorly reasoned, and I have a hard time believing you don't know that.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

riverslq, on 29 December 2017 - 09:07 PM, said:

It's your dumb idea to comment, but hey, don't actually be helpful, be a ****.


nope not joking. FP is a joke the way it is.
who can bring the same mech loaded with 9 of the same weapons.
I mean really, thats ******* ridiculous.

and you wonder why people dont play FP outside of event time.


I've been here as long or longer than you so yes I do.

Just being around a long time doesn't mean you read up on the meta in your free time.

Anyway, making it stock only would still make people bring all of the same mech, just pick the one stock mech that's as close to meta as possible and roll with that. It would only be even more ridiculous, even more unbalanced, and there would be even less choice between actually viable options to fight with.

[riverslq]

Bombast, on 29 December 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

I was as helpful as I could possibly be, with such a vague, poorly considered plan - a Stock FP Mode would be terrible. IS-Clan balance wouldn't just be non-existent - It would be completely, absolutely impossible to achieve. There's no way you could make even a 20th of the IS chassis usable in such a mode. There's maybe 5 IS mechs in the game right now that would actually be viable in such a mode.

You wouldn't get rid of the meta, you'd replace it. You wouldn't get rid of Min/Maxing, you'd just change what was min and what was max. Your idea doesn't make sense, it's poorly conceived, poorly reasoned, and I have a hard time believing you don't know that.

Then come up with a way to make FP not suck.
Thats all I'm asking here.

Dakota1000, on 29 December 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

Just being around a long time doesn't mean you read up on the meta in your free time.

Anyway, making it stock only would still make people bring all of the same mech, just pick the one stock mech that's as close to meta as possible and roll with that. It would only be even more ridiculous, even more unbalanced, and there would be even less choice between actually viable options to fight with.

right, but thats at least better than 99 ppcs on one mech cuz damage.
thats pretty much scouting right now but srms.

[Deathlike]

So, you want FP to be Clanners win-only?

I'm pretty sure that's already the case.

Here's a pro-tip: Matching up Clans mechs that already have DHS vs the vast majority of IS mechs that don't have DHS is like watching a game of "Who wants to overheat in SHS first?"

That doesn't even being to explain how awful most mechs are poorly armored by default.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

riverslq, on 29 December 2017 - 09:14 PM, said:

right, but thats at least better than 99 ppcs on one mech cuz damage.
thats pretty much scouting right now but srms.

I'd consider it far worse. I'd also consider it terrible solely on grounds that it removes one of the most fun aspects of the game, building and customizing your own mech.

[riverslq]

That last scouting FP game was fun!
The enemy team had 3 ECM ice ferrets with ER lasers!
WOOHOO!

yeah, told you this **** was broken.
Tell me my idea is crap, fine, give me a better one then.

Edited by riverslq, 29 December 2017 - 09:24 PM.

[Stf Sgt Marblez]

Buy clan mechs, and drink the coolaid.

Thats how you make FP more fun.

Simple idea, and easy to execute problem solved.

/s

[Jaybles-The-PegLeg-PotatoCaptain]

I've got a novel concept! Teamwork! Maybe you could find 3 buddies to drop scouting with and then find a counter to the ice ferrets! I hear assassins are pretty decent these days. Or Maybe some ERLL Cicadas just for kicks? Maybe Mix it up and go old school, run 4 oxides? Or you could cheese it up and run 4 stealth armor locusts, You'd be unbeatable on capture intel! You know, some people actually like the fun of trying to counter the different things people come up with to liven up the different game modes.

[Bombast]

riverslq, on 29 December 2017 - 09:14 PM, said:

Then come up with a way to make FP not suck.
Thats all I'm asking here

Strictly speaking, you didn't ask.

In anycase, splitting queues is an idea thats a thousand times better than the one you propose. Or just not letting solo players in and requiring people to at least form a group before queuing. Pretty sure even the people who hate those idea think they're better than this mess.

riverslq, on 29 December 2017 - 09:23 PM, said:

That last scouting FP game was fun!
The enemy team had 3 ECM ice ferrets with ER lasers!
WOOHOO!

Your event specific build got countered. Deal with it.