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#1 Yurez

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 11:14 PM

Hello, friends.
I play MWO not so often, and use premium only sometimes. Thats why in my wallet there are rarely many c-bills (sorry for my english, if I make mistakes). But I have dozen mechs in my hangar (most of them medium/heavy).
Sometimes I think about more effective configs with light engine, but can't decide, what engine (only one for few mechs at start) more optimal at this situation. What you think about LT250?
It have 10 heatsinks in base, thats why don't eat slots in lighter mechs with possible endo-steel and ferro-fibrous, has average speed for meds and not so bad speed for heavier mechs.
And here my few configs.

RVN-3L Stealth with 3xLPPC
HBK-4G - RAKKA =)
TBT-7K - AC20 and other
DRG-5N - DAKKA
MAD-3R - RAKKA (or how it names?)
HGN-732 - some Assault)

Please, give me feedback about this engine and configs. Thanks)

Edited by Yurez, 11 January 2018 - 11:32 PM.


#2 Ruccus

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 01:49 AM

A 250LFE is too small for a Marauder or Highlander. 54kph for a Marauder and 45kph for a Highlander is slow; I personally like around a 300 engine for my Marauders, though the Marauder has some nice standard engine builds like this one.

I'd suggest finding a good standard engine build for the Marauder and Highlander (use whatever 300 engine or higher you have in your inventory), then pick a LFE that would be good for your other mechs.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 02:08 AM

my rule of thumb is (if the chassis allows it):

Assaults 50+ kph
Heavies 70+ kph
Mediums 90+ kph
Lights: stick in the biggest engine it can carry an see what you can do with the remaining space

remember: speed is life!

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Edited by Cyrilis, 12 January 2018 - 02:10 AM.


#4 Yurez

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 02:51 AM

View PostRuccus, on 12 January 2018 - 01:49 AM, said:

Marauder has some nice standard engine builds like this one.

Thx for build, interesting one. I'll try at evening to test it.

View PostCyrilis, on 12 January 2018 - 02:08 AM, said:

my rule of thumb is (if the chassis allows it):

Assaults 50+ kph
Heavies 70+ kph
Mediums 90+ kph
Lights: stick in the biggest engine it can carry an see what you can do with the remaining space

remember: speed is life!


Hmm, in chasing of big guns and max DPS, I really forgot about speed.
To your standard of minimum speed, I see 275 LFE is most interesting. It have extra slot for HS and add to mechs approximately 5-15 km/h (about 10%), not bad. And Raven support this engine too)

And few questions:
1. For sniper builds - speed important too? Or maybe as second engine, I could buy 250 (after 275)?
2. Ask me, please, what skills optimal for D®AKKA and SNIPER builds?

Edited by Yurez, 12 January 2018 - 02:51 AM.


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Posted 12 January 2018 - 04:24 AM

That engine will not work very well for some of your mechs. Your assaults and heavies will generally want higher rated engines such as LFE300 or XL300 (depending on the chassis). Your Raven should do XL 270 or 280 (since it can't fit a 300), both of which are fairly common engine options for agile mediums. Hunchback can do with LFE225, but you could just leave it with the stock STD200, LFE250, LFE270 are fairly common engine options for a bunch of other mechs as well.

And for god's sake, don't boat RACs on the Hunchback and Marauder. Hunchback is quirked for AC/20, although other heavy ballistics (UAC/20, Heavy Gauss, LB20X) can also work and the Marauder works marvellously with a UAC/20+4xMPL combo.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 04:36 AM

View PostYurez, on 12 January 2018 - 02:51 AM, said:

And few questions:
1. For sniper builds - speed important too? Or maybe as second engine, I could buy 250 (after 275)?
2. Ask me, please, what skills optimal for D®AKKA and SNIPER builds?

1. that depends on the map.you need to be able to reposition in an 'appropiriate' time. So for example on a city map with lots of cover and few open fields, a smaller engine will do good. If you are on maps with large open field... speed is life, even for a sniper.
2 for dakka: cooldown, range, magazine capacity (heat)
sniper (cooldaown range, magazine capacity, ADVANCED ZOOM ! ! !

use this tool to plan your skilltree without the frustration of missclicks:

https://kitlaan.gitlab.io/mwoskill/

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 04:51 AM

An engine in the 280 to 300 range is ideal for most mechs. I am not sure if the Raven will take one. 275 should work on all of them. I think the Raven 3L will take up to 295. Other Ravens only go up to 275.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 06:10 AM

Thank you for your answers. Now I know, what ideal first light engine for me) 275 LFE must be good choice)
And special thx for link to skilltree.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:16 AM

View PostYurez, on 12 January 2018 - 06:10 AM, said:

Thank you for your answers. Now I know, what ideal first light engine for me) 275 LFE must be good choice)
And special thx for link to skilltree.


One point I figured I'd mention is that the 280LFE is the same weight as the 275LFE. Because the Hunchback is your only mech that can't fit a 280 engine you might want to try to make a standard engine build for the Hunchback and go with the 280 for the others. The drawback is that you wouldn't be able to fit the 280 in the Hunchie.

This HBK-4G build is a bit on the slow side but it'll be fast enough to escort your team's Assault mechs. It means you can't really go out on your own, but you have a good amount of firepower to assist your heavier teammates. Another variant of the build is this one which uses your Trebuchet's stock 250 engine. At 81kph it goes at a decent speed but the small lasers don't compliment the AC20 as well as the MLs and LMGs do in the other build.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:45 AM

View PostYurez, on 12 January 2018 - 06:10 AM, said:

Thank you for your answers. Now I know, what ideal first light engine for me) 275 LFE must be good choice)
Stop right there.
Do not put a LFE on your Raven. Ever. You won't gain much in the way of survivability from using that LFE275 on it, but you will lose four tons of payload space compared to an XL275.
Think about it for a moment.

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 08:10 AM

View PostHorseman, on 12 January 2018 - 07:45 AM, said:

Stop right there.
Do not put a LFE on your Raven. Ever. You won't gain much in the way of survivability from using that LFE275 on it, but you will lose four tons of payload space compared to an XL275.
Think about it for a moment.


While ideally I'd agree with you, remember he's working off a budget. It's either use the 275/280LFE in multiple mechs or shelf the mech until enough c-bills are earned to get an XL engine for the Raven. Here's an adequate RVN-3L build with a 280LFE engine in it.

It does bring up the question of future mechs though. I'd suggest a near future goal of buying a Bushwacker for c-bills. There are some good Bushwacker builds that'll fit a 275/280LFE and its stock 275XL can go right into the Raven and stay there.





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