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[Y E O N N E]

This thread is going places!

Edited by Yeonne Greene, 12 January 2018 - 11:31 AM.

[N0ni]

Unfortunately we're not going to K-Town, it's going to be smited down by the hands of Blake himself.

Yeonne Greene, on 12 January 2018 - 11:24 AM, said:

Fixed that for ya

[Jay Leon Hart]

Sho sa ShinYodama, on 12 January 2018 - 11:15 AM, said:

agree with OP, i want tighter sercurity of programming too. All you IS lovers need to paly some clan mechs once in aw hile and you'll see the heat is not fair, nto to mention my timberwolf handles like an 18-wheeler.

Played a month Clan only, played a month IS only. Did better Clan only.

Questions? Comments?

[Tarogato]

N0ni, on 12 January 2018 - 11:30 AM, said:

Unfortunately we're not going to K-Town, it's going to be smited down by the hands of Blake himself.

plz not before i get to duel him. =3

[Bud Crue]

Jay Leon Hart, on 12 January 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

Played a month Clan only, played a month IS only. Did better Clan only.

Questions? Comments?

That there are folks who still have difficulty playing clan mechs or seriously suggest that they are somehow getting the short end of the balance stick boggles my mind.
Now excuse me, tonight is theme night, and I have to go build out my Hunchback IIc (I suspect we will be doing “hunchbros”) and I only hope my 70ish point alphas will allow be to be competitive against those OP IS mechs.

[Verilligo]

Bud Crue, on 12 January 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

That there are folks who still have difficulty playing clan mechs or seriously suggest that they are somehow getting the short end of the balance stick boggles my mind.
Now excuse me, tonight is theme night, and I have to go build out my Hunchback IIc (I suspect we will be doing “hunchbros”) and I only hope my 70ish point alphas will allow be to be competitive against those OP IS mechs.

It's not the size of your alpha but the quality of your trainers that determines your success this night. I have this on the best authority of one of this forum's Top Men.

[Tarogato]

Verilligo, on 12 January 2018 - 11:57 AM, said:

It's not the size of your alpha but the quality of your trainers that determines your success this night. I have this on the best authority of one of this forum's Top Men.

I see you have identified the... silver lining.

[Lykaon]

Douglas grizzly, on 12 January 2018 - 08:17 AM, said:

things PGI needs to do to balance MWO once and for all.
1 reduce the heat that is added to clan weapons every time certain people in PGI gets trashed in factionn or QP.

2 every time the above happens the clans weapons get nerfed with ghost and real heat and the range in some cases gets cut drastically. restore some of the range and cut the heat.

3 Cut some of the quirks IS gets on both armor and weapondry. Right now the IS in a one vs one is more or less better due to armor and weapon quirks.

4 for you is apologists play a crow or any other clan mech and go against a equivilent is mech and see how easy you get trashed. then maybe you will see what i mean. maybe.

add the 5 tons back to scouting so clans can balance in ability and power.

tighten the security of the programming so outside influences cant be added.

5 Delete all Inner Sphere mechs and play all clan all the time every day.


Seriously....if the clan mechs were in such a poor state then why are clan mechs ALWAYS the VAST majority of the composition in world championship teams?


So a Stormcrow vs let's say a Bushwacker?

I would probably take a Stormcrow with 2 heavy large lasers and 5 ER-Mediums a TC1 and and active probe (2 tons loose so electronics!)

That's a 71 point ghost heat free Alpha with a 32% heat efficiency on smurfy with no skills applied. Should get two back to back Alpha strikes pop a coolshot and start over with another two after a brief cooling cycle.

Naturally the Stormcrow will have two distinct advantages ...Speed and firepower. The Bushwacker gets cooler weapon cycles and and a more robust frame with superior armor/structure.

If the Bushwacker is using an XL it's two weapon burns from deceased (if you can hit 142 damage on one spot) But....

I would leverage the Crow's speed to close quickly and sheer a leg off in two weapon cycles. Since most of the "meta" whackers are SRM based (max range of 270m without range nodes) and my loadout has an optimal range of 400m so...hit an fade is very likely an attainable strat.

If you can't hit a Bushwacker's leg with 80% of your laser burn then you are probably beyond help and should not be 1 v 1 against anyone. So we can assume that the Bushwacker has fired three salvos before it's legged and probably not shooting much more of anything outside the 270m missile range.

The Crow needs to land 4 weapon burns to kill a Bushwacker through legging.

Edited by Lykaon, 12 January 2018 - 12:16 PM.

[Bud Crue]

Off to K-town we go.

[Verilligo]

Lykaon, on 12 January 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

5 Delete all Inner Sphere mechs and play all clan all the time every day.


Seriously....if the clan mechs were in such a poor state then why are clan mechs ALWAYS the VAST majority of the composition in world championship teams?


So a Stormcrow vs let's say a Bushwacker?

I would probably take a Stormcrow with 2 heavy large lasers and 5 ER-Mediums a TC1 and and active probe (2 tons loose so electronics!)

That's a 71 point ghost heat free Alpha with a 32% heat efficiency on smurfy with no skills applied. Should get two back to back Alpha strikes pop a coolshot and start over with another two after a brief cooling cycle.

Naturally the Stormcrow will have two distinct advantages ...Speed and firepower. The Bushwacker gets cooler weapon cycles and and a more robust frame with superior armor/structure.

If the Bushwacker is using an XL it's two weapon burns from deceased (if you can hit 142 damage on one spot) But....

I would leverage the Crow's speed to close quickly and sheer a leg off in two weapon cycles. Since most of the "meta" whackers are SRM based (max range of 270m without range nodes) and my loadout has an optimal range of 400m so...hit an fade is very likely an attainable strat.

If you can't hit a Bushwacker's leg with 80% of your laser burn then you are probably beyond help and should not be 1 v 1 against anyone. So we can assume that the Bushwacker has fired three salvos before it's legged and probably not shooting much more of anything outside the 270m missile range.

The Crow needs to land 4 weapon burns to kill a Bushwacker through legging.

You can actually strip out the actuators on that build to gain 2 DHS instead of the electronics. With that hot of a build, you're going to need all the cooling you can get.

[Mystere]

This thread is mostly going nowhere. Reported.

N0ni, on 12 January 2018 - 11:30 AM, said:

Unfortunately we're not going to K-Town, it's going to be smited down by the hands of Blake himself.

Neither will happen because you are unwilling to do what is necessary, unlike me.

Edited by Mystere, 12 January 2018 - 12:53 PM.

[N0ni]

Mystere, on 12 January 2018 - 12:53 PM, said:

Neither will happen because you are unwilling to do what is necessary, unlike me.

Okay look, real talk.

I enjoy the entertainment value of threads like these, that's why i don't do anything.

[Tarogato]

Lykaon, on 12 January 2018 - 12:15 PM, said:

5 Delete all Inner Sphere mechs and play all clan all the time every day.


Seriously....if the clan mechs were in such a poor state then why are clan mechs ALWAYS the VAST majority of the composition in world championship teams?


So a Stormcrow vs let's say a Bushwacker?

I would probably take a Stormcrow with 2 heavy large lasers and 5 ER-Mediums a TC1 and and active probe (2 tons loose so electronics!)

That's a 71 point ghost heat free Alpha with a 32% heat efficiency on smurfy with no skills applied. Should get two back to back Alpha strikes pop a coolshot and start over with another two after a brief cooling cycle.

Naturally the Stormcrow will have two distinct advantages ...Speed and firepower. The Bushwacker gets cooler weapon cycles and and a more robust frame with superior armor/structure.

If the Bushwacker is using an XL it's two weapon burns from deceased (if you can hit 142 damage on one spot) But....

I would leverage the Crow's speed to close quickly and sheer a leg off in two weapon cycles. Since most of the "meta" whackers are SRM based (max range of 270m without range nodes) and my loadout has an optimal range of 400m so...hit an fade is very likely an attainable strat.

If you can't hit a Bushwacker's leg with 80% of your laser burn then you are probably beyond help and should not be 1 v 1 against anyone. So we can assume that the Bushwacker has fired three salvos before it's legged and probably not shooting much more of anything outside the 270m missile range.

The Crow needs to land 4 weapon burns to kill a Bushwacker through legging.

Let's find out.




I'M BORED TODAY. SOMEBODY FITE ME.

[Mystere]

N0ni, on 12 January 2018 - 12:58 PM, said:

Okay look, real talk.

I enjoy the entertainment value of threads like these, that's why i don't do anything.

Ah! But here's the rub. Sometimes, actually doing something -- and saying you did it -- results in:

Edited by Mystere, 12 January 2018 - 01:13 PM.

[Tarogato]

Mystere, on 12 January 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

Ah! But here's the rub. Sometimes, actually doing something -- and saying you did it -- results in:

I challenge you to a trial of grievance in honourable single combat for reporting fun thread before I got to 1v1 somebody. You dare refuse my batchall?

[SHIN BRODAMA]

Jay Leon Hart, on 12 January 2018 - 11:36 AM, said:

Played a month Clan only, played a month IS only. Did better Clan only.

Questions? Comments?

Probably because ytou are honor warrior who doesnt use outside influcnes that violate the sercurirty of the game. trust me i have seen thigns

[K O Z A K]

DATA/anonym said before he will take on anyone in a bushwacker vs comparable mech, tbh I think the bushwacker with LFE (it does 90something) 6xASRM4 will wipe the floor in a 1v1 brawl against any clan medium

[SHIN BRODAMA]

Bud Crue, on 12 January 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

That there are folks who still have difficulty playing clan mechs or seriously suggest that they are somehow getting the short end of the balance stick boggles my mind.
Now excuse me, tonight is theme night, and I have to go build out my Hunchback IIc (I suspect we will be doing “hunchbros”) and I only hope my 70ish point alphas will allow be to be competitive against those OP IS mechs.

Whatch out for IS mechs waith dakka,m they use a progrem to fire faster and you will die in your high heat laser mech. it is known

[N0ni]

Mystere, on 12 January 2018 - 01:12 PM, said:

Ah! But here's the rub. Sometimes, actually doing something -- and saying you did it -- results in:

Unless you just say you did it --- but didn't actually do anything --- results in:

[Jay Leon Hart]

Hazeclaw, on 12 January 2018 - 01:20 PM, said:

DATA/anonym said before he will take on anyone in a bushwacker vs comparable mech, tbh I think the bushwacker with LFE (it does 90something) 6xASRM4 will wipe the floor in a 1v1 brawl against any clan medium

It depends. If you can move faster than the BSW, just bring something with more than 300m range and leg them, taking 0 damage in return.

But sure, in a brawl, BSW is hard to beat, especially if it can nose-hug you to protect it's vulnerable legs. I'd give it a good run in my Pakhet, though.

Edited by Jay Leon Hart, 12 January 2018 - 01:25 PM.