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[LordFatman]

in game when the last mech is alive why are they aloud to shut down and hide tying my my drop deck for over 5 min in faction or in quick play just hiding we should see the grid number when shut down so it can be reported to end game

[- World Eater -]

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Edited by Tina Benoit, 17 January 2018 - 03:51 PM.
discussing moderation/spreading false information/rumors

[LordFatman]

but if we can see the grid we can tell other team his spot so we don't have to tie up 11 drop decks while he is being stupid and hiding just to waste time

Edited by LordFatman, 17 January 2018 - 03:38 PM.

[D V Devnull]

And you folks are exactly why they don't do this... Something about "Griefing > Assisting The Enemy" and "Griefing > Team Killing" on your parts? Also, they might be trying to earn a certain "Low Health" Achievement. Or perhaps, they're trying to wait for the right time to pop out and catch an enemy in the back alone. Worst case, they're just trying to learn how to survive in a bad situation in order to do better in the next match. Any which way, you folks would be thinking you have some god-given right to take all of that away from them WHEN YOU DO NOT. Get over yourselves and understand that there's going to be some delayed finishes, and you're just going to have to change mechs for a match and move on when you don't want to wait. Don't hurt other players' experiences just over wanting one stupid mech unlocked... IT'S A DAMNED GAME, AND OTHER PEOPLE DON'T PLAY EXACTLY THE SAME WAY AS YOU!!!

~Mr. D. V. "There are worse things to be mad over, like being TeamKilled when you've called for help!" Devnull

[LordFatman]

shut down hiding for the full 5 min is not playing

[Seranov]

Sorry dude, there's no valid reason for that. You are suggesting that someone (who in all likelihood is trying to preserve their precious KDR) has more of a right to not engage the enemy IN A GAME ABOUT FIGHTING ROBOTS than the other 23 people have to actually playing the game. It's unsportsmanly as hell, and in no way does "lol it's just a game" forgive it.

[- World Eater -]

Shutting down then farming damaged mechs when other team members are dead is ******.

[Roughneck45]

Its annoying to spectate, but you have to know the context. Every time I've had to do it its to answer the door, and I've never failed to have people raging at me when I return.

Calling out their grid is weak though, even if they are in the wrong.

[LordFatman]

Seranov, on 17 January 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

Sorry dude, there's no valid reason for that. You are suggesting that someone (who in all likelihood is trying to preserve their precious KDR) has more of a right to not engage the enemy IN A GAME ABOUT FIGHTING ROBOTS than the other 23 people have to actually playing the game. It's unsportsmanly as hell, and in no way does "lol it's just a game" forgive it.

it is a game but its also my time I get to play and I cant if I cant use my mechs

Roughneck45, on 17 January 2018 - 03:57 PM, said:

Its annoying to spectate, but you have to know the context. Every time I've had to do it its to answer the door, and I've never failed to have people raging at me when I return.

Calling out their grid is weak though, even if they are in the wrong.

no just didn't want to die he was still talking

[Roughneck45]

LordFatman, on 17 January 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

no just didn't want to die he was still talking

Then he doesn't want to die.

*shrugs*

Buy more mechs so you don't have to wait?

[LordFatman]

Roughneck45, on 17 January 2018 - 03:59 PM, said:

Then he doesn't want to die.

*shrugs*

Buy more mechs so you don't have to wait?

he should play the game its a fighting game not a hiding game also if you want to spend mc on more drop decks for me then I wont cry

Edited by LordFatman, 17 January 2018 - 04:02 PM.

[Seranov]

LordFatman, on 17 January 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

it is a game but its also my time I get to play and I cant if I cant use my mechs

I should have quoted the guy who I was talking to, but in case you misunderstood, I agree with you.

[Fox the Apprentice]

This would be non-participation, which is against the CoC, I believe. Report them and be done with it. What's this thread for?

[Bombast]

Someone managed to summon Tina! I wish I had seen how.

[stealthraccoon]

Shutting down to hide temporarily or to break target lock is one thing, but doing so to avoid a death is another. I’m all for playing ‘possum if injured and soon-to-be-found by someone faster or bigger than me. Heck, shutting down mid-jump is also useful if it prevents taking a fatal LRM rain to vulnerable components.

Look, it’s discourteous to drag out a match because you don’t want the inevitable to happen, and most would prefer you stand up and take it honorably. Unfortunately, it’s a game, and not everyone is going to be considerate of that.

[Tarl Cabot]

Not enough information. But if the last mech is hiding/shutdown and no longer actively fighting at range, like a ERLL Raven/Cheetah/etc, is called non-participation, and usually pertains to Skirmish or if you are the defender on Siege. AFAIK all other modes have other avenues to complete the drop, iirc. That should be reported.

[- World Eater -]

Don't discuss moderation = don't discuss the **** job we do regarding moderation.

[TWIAFU]

LordFatman, on 17 January 2018 - 03:24 PM, said:

in game when the last mech is alive why are they aloud to shut down and hide tying my my drop deck for over 5 min in faction or in quick play just hiding we should see the grid number when shut down so it can be reported to end game

Shutting Down your ‘Mech or avoiding engagements with the enemy, and when doing so might be considered non-participation

All pilots have access to a Shutdown command for their ‘Mechs, mapped by default to the ‘P’ key and listed as ‘Toggle Power’ in the keyboard menu.

The primary benefit to shutting down your ‘Mech is that it will no longer appear on enemy radar. In the deciding moments of a close match with few ‘Mechs left standing on the battlefield, effective use of the shutdown mechanic and/or evasion tactics has the potential to provide you with the following benefits:

Breaking a target lock
Appearing ‘heat neutral’ on maps where Thermal Vision might commonly be used
Presenting on opportunity for staging an ambush
Evading detection long enough to secure a win through Conquest points
Evading detection long enough to secure a timer expiration win when you have superior numbers, in circumstances where you may be too critically damaged to otherwise risk a direct engagement with the enemy
The above situations are considered to be within the scope of what the shutdown mechanic or evasion tactics are intended to be used for.

There are situations that do not fall within the scope of what the shutdown mechanic or evasion tactics are intended for. The use of the shutdown mechanic or avoiding contact with the enemy under the following situations may be classed as an act of non-participation, subject to evaluation and moderation actions by Support services:

Ceasing to meaningfully contribute for the remainder of the match if you still have support equipment, useful modules, or weapons (with any necessary ammo) available. Losing your primary weapon is not an acceptable excuse for hiding and/or shutting down if you still have a secondary weapon, a support-based item such as a TAG, or a consumable module available for use.

Running out the clock, or needlessly extending the duration of the match, in cases where doing so will not assist you towards victory.

Running out the clock or needlessly extending the duration of a Faction Play match in an attempt to keep a particular group or Unit in the current engagement for as long as possible, in cases where doing so will not assist you towards victory, is not considered an acceptable tactic.
Disliking a map or game mode or attempting to preserve a player statistic such as Kill/Death Ratio are not acceptable excuses for non-participation.

LordFatman, on 17 January 2018 - 03:37 PM, said:

but if we can see the grid we can tell other team his spot so we don't have to tie up 11 drop decks while he is being stupid and hiding just to waste time

Engaging in any of the following actions while using PGI services is forbidden:
Willfully or repeatedly assisting the enemy.

Everything you need to know.

http://mwomercs.com/conduct

[LordFatman]

that's what I mean they run hide and don't play any more wait till time runs out so they don't die on Domination or a mode that can be won quick I don't get that mad but on a mode that don't end till ur all dead or time runs out that needs to be stoped

[Mystere]

Seranov, on 17 January 2018 - 03:52 PM, said:

Sorry dude, there's no valid reason for that. You are suggesting that someone (who in all likelihood is trying to preserve their precious KDR) has more of a right to not engage the enemy IN A GAME ABOUT FIGHTING ROBOTS than the other 23 people have to actually playing the game. It's unsportsmanly as hell, and in no way does "lol it's just a game" forgive it.

How many times does it need to be said that it has nothing to do with KDR?

It's about making the enemy earn that last kill. No one is under any obligation to report for execution.

Finally, there was a very good reason why people argued a long time ago -- and obviously to no avail -- that a TDM mode was a really really really really really really really really really really really bad idea. Very few listened. So eat what you (i.e. the player base) have sown.

LordFatman, on 17 January 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

it is a game but its also my time I get to play and I cant if I cant use my mechs

Drop in another Mech.

Oh! Do you have a favorite Mech you absolutely cannot do without? Then go get a spare or two. I and others do.

Edited by Mystere, 17 January 2018 - 04:38 PM.