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[Mystere]

Water Bear, on 01 February 2018 - 08:51 AM, said:

I only play games in which I think I have a fair fight.

The same does not necessarily hold for me, though (e.g. used to "gank" duos or trios as a solo in Age of Conan ).

Water Bear, on 01 February 2018 - 08:51 AM, said:

Asymmetrical does not necessarily equal imbalance, but perfect symmetry does imply balance. For that reason, I stopped playing around the time the clans were introduced. At that time, this game was severely imbalanced in favor of the people that bought clan mechs. It's been about 3 years since then, as I just came back.

I'm not joking on this point - I prefer fair games.

Unfortunately, Battletech, especially the Clan invasion era, is the wrong IP to build a perfectly symmetrical game on -- unless everything BT is just a "skin" or "window dressing" for the game, of course.

[ANOM O MECH]

Absolutely not.

We can't have random as long as garbage modes such as escort exists.

No one should have to play that bs ever. Random maps would mean playing more escort which is completely unacceptable.

As it is now what we need is not random maps. We need to be able to select maps and modes we want to play or are willing to participate.

[ANOM O MECH]

KingCobra, on 30 January 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

Its beyond a joke the system is so abused.

Exactly how is it abused?

Because what I see going on as abuse is people saving multipliers to force the majority to play garbage such as polar and escort.

So either make map and mode selection available, or change the multiplier system to cap at x2 or x3 max.

Either way, there needs to be a way to mitigate being forced into playing modes and maps that are not enjoyable.

Random maps without choice would mean more polar and more escort. That can never be allowed to happen.

[KingCobra]

tker 669, on 01 February 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:

Exactly how is it abused?

Because what I see going on as abuse is people saving multipliers to force the majority to play garbage such as polar and escort.

So either make map and mode selection available, or change the multiplier system to cap at x2 or x3 max.

Either way, there needs to be a way to mitigate being forced into playing modes and maps that are not enjoyable.

Random maps without choice would mean more polar and more escort. That can never be allowed to happen.

It is abused because players pick same same maps and game modes every night and other maps are exiled to oblivion game modes are less abused every night but not by much skirmish skirmish assault skirmish blah blah blah.

We had the checkbox system for what 6 months where you could pick map and game mode and they removed it without even a explanation.
To be honest all posts and topics are a Fing a waste of time anymore on this forum or twitterd or reddedit .
BYE have a nice life.

[Mystere]

tker 669, on 01 February 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:

Exactly how is it abused?

Because what I see going on as abuse is people saving multipliers to force the majority to play garbage such as polar and escort.

So either make map and mode selection available, or change the multiplier system to cap at x2 or x3 max.

Either way, there needs to be a way to mitigate being forced into playing modes and maps that are not enjoyable.

Random maps without choice would mean more polar and more escort. That can never be allowed to happen.

That's not "abuse". That's "retribution". <maniacal >

[Xaat Xuun]

I'm all in for a no map/mode voting, but been in FW, where there is no vote, been stuck doing Alpine peaks 3 times in a row

seems there is no escape from doing same maps multiple times , I'm sure I'll have a better chance of seeing the same map/mode less, once/if voting is removed

[ANOM O MECH]

KingCobra, on 01 February 2018 - 03:13 PM, said:

It is abused because players pick same same maps and game modes every night and other maps are exiled to oblivion game modes are less abused every night but not by much skirmish skirmish assault skirmish blah blah blah.

We had the checkbox system for what 6 months where you could pick map and game mode and they removed it without even a explanation.
To be honest all posts and topics are a Fing a waste of time anymore on this forum or twitterd or reddedit .
BYE have a nice life.

The majority of people picking the same maps over and over has a lot to do with the maps themselves.

Hot maps such as Tourmaline are popular for a lot of players because it is one of the most balanced. So I laugh when people make silly assumptions that Terra is hated only because of the heat. Maybe some do, but the amount equally hot maps such as Rubalette being so popular really blows up that theory.

So while I personally like Terra, it is a terrible layout. Especially since the old Terra was so much better if you take artwork out of the conversation. Poorly thought out choke points, flanking is difficult in a lot of the map because of huge mountains in the way.

That these maps not being played often enough in your opinion, such as Terra, would amount to little more than a scenery change. Game play would be worse playing crap maps, instead of maps I think most of us are sick of such as Crimson.

[Xaat Xuun]

Old terra was bad, there was just the one spot, first there had the advantage.
I prefer this Terra, but everyone is trying to fight on it' like it was the old Terra, so there really was no improvement in the end

[KingCobra]

I can see many good post but never a response from the Devs I guess they just cant remove a feature that was totally nott wanted by anone from its inseption.

[Simbacca]

I agree - bring back random maps and modes. At the very least this does force players to actually adapt to their situations - instead of relying on cold maps for their builds.

[Variant1]

they should remove voting only if the only modes that can be played are escort and incursion. those 2 modes are best and haters hate cuz they know its good mode, and majority love those modes because they are good modes.

Hazeclaw, on 30 January 2018 - 09:50 AM, said:

only if we can select mech/loadout after map/mode is determined

otherwise you'll just see most ppl use gauss vomit and nothing else because it kind of works everywhere

heck no, there should never be any respawns or loadout customization during drops. There is enough min maxin going there doesnt need to be more. Adapt to the situation instead of getting easy pick

[Acersecomic]

Yes please. I am so fkin sick and tired of Canyon Network and Polar. I want more map diversity!

[Peter2k]

KingCobra, on 12 October 2018 - 03:02 PM, said:

I can see many good post but never a response from the Devs I guess they just cant remove a feature that was totally nott wanted by anone from its inseption.

That is sadly not true.

There was a sizable rumbling to be able to do so.

Just like the move from 8vs8 to 12vs12.

Or the removal of predator vision.

Or the nagging that night maps should be darker than the old frozen city night map.

Some were nagging the maps should be a bit more cluttered (trees/shrubs), for diversity or something.

Or we wanted a skilltree, but I think no one really likes the one we have now.


And like all other features, PGI wont roll back because "people wanted it".
It's basically what they said a few times when the 8vs8/12vs12 issue drops up.


I would've been fine with totally random and checkboxes like we used to have.
Just as ELO per weight class instead of Tier seemed to produce more fun games.

Edited by Peter2k, 13 October 2018 - 03:45 AM.

[Siegegun]

It is funny the different maps people are saying are coming up over and over. Seems to be different maps for everyone. Or its the maps people don't like that they focus on. Personally I am ready to never play HPG or Mining Collective. Those two maps are the ones I get nonstop. And they are the maps I like the least.