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[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

I've been out patrolling in group queue at the moment in my Annihilator, with the event going on right now I'm finding loads and loads of Dire Wolves every game, but I'm not finding it a problem, instead I find that my Annihilator absolutely demolishes all of them. Any time one peeks at me its too slow to really do anything, so they might get one alpha off on me maybe, but I either kill them or remove all their CT armor by the time they've run away.

Its been so powerful that I was holding a corner on bog overwatching around the middle we all camp on, some mediums try to peek around, kill one, other runs back off then comes back with backup, a couple Dire Wolves, a heavy, and the medium. I open fire and just delete the Dire Wolf and move onto attacking the rest while backing up a bit to get to a better position while calling that they're pushing on the comms. We quickly kill all of them that pushed and I call for us to do a counter push, people are a bit slow standing there so I say to let me lead, I move around the corner and rack up two kills quickly, and we're down to just wiping out the last enemies.

In other matches I'll be defending an area where people commonly peek over, I had 3 different Dire Wolves all attempt it in the same area and 3 KMDD that match.

In celebration for my victories and total dominance over the Clan's premiere slow ballistic spam mech I have named my Annihilator WolfBane, may its glory forever continue.

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Wolfbane: Destroyer of Dire Wolves, Scourge of the assault lance, Ravager of the Clans, Master of DPS

[InvictusLee]

Interesting build. If i had an anni, i'd try running it.

[Cryzak]

Dires are just bad...

[Battlemaster56]

November11th, on 06 February 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

Interesting build. If i had an anni, i'd try running it.

It's a fun build once you locked down the enemy in a chock point and force them to face your overwhelming dps, especially against players who zooms in alot, just make sure you got buddies at your sides so they can help kill the other guys quicker.

[Water Bear]

November11th, on 06 February 2018 - 12:13 PM, said:

Interesting build. If i had an anni, i'd try running it.

I thought about getting an Annihilator. I googled up an MWO thread about it, and one quote stood out:

Stonefalcon, on 07 August 2017 - 05:48 PM, said:

The Annihilator does two things extremely well, area denial and staring contests.

I would believe it if someone said their Annihilator won a staring contest with the sun

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Can you say it's the best mech on mwo? No, but it's the best at the job it has, annihilating.

It's one of those 'mechs that does really well when it has the opportunity to do anything at all, but dies horribly when it doesn't. I can't tell you how many Annihilators I've wrecked by shooting them in the head while their bodies were tucked behind a hill. OTOH, I can't tell you how many games I've seen an Annihilator have top or near top damage.

I never got one because I'm not interested in lumbering around the map, trying to pick a staring contest.

[InvictusLee]

It wont win a staring contest with one if my king crabs.
Sure it has more armor but one if my ultra20s can fix that in a cinche.

[Water Bear]

November11th, on 06 February 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

It wont win a staring contest with one if my king crabs.
Sure it has more armor but one if my ultra20s can fix that in a cinche.

Yea, but it will, though. Any build a KCG can do, an Annihilator can do, but not vice versa. The highest DPS builds in the game do not use 2x UAC 20's.

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

November11th, on 06 February 2018 - 01:41 PM, said:

It wont win a staring contest with one if my king crabs.
Sure it has more armor but one if my ultra20s can fix that in a cinche.

My build up top there has more than double the DPS, not sure how you're going to pull off winning that staring contest.

[Khobai]

Cryzak, on 06 February 2018 - 12:31 PM, said:

Dires are just bad...

exactly. demolishing direwolves is nothing to be proud of.

not being able to demolish them is something to be ashamed of.


even the two AC2 super meta cyclops could kill a direwolf.

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My build up top there has more than double the DPS, not sure how you're going to pull off winning that staring contest.

because DPS isnt the only thing that matters.

facetime matters. shot placement matters. using loadouts that let you torso twist between shots matters. weapon reliability matters too and RACs are not particularly reliable weapons.

not that kingcrabs are very good either. but that annihilator is far from the best annihilator build. ive run a similar annihilator build with 3 UAC2s and 2 RAC5s. It does okay but its not as good as other builds.

Edited by Khobai, 06 February 2018 - 02:02 PM.

[LordNothing]

the ani is definitely a great assault destroyer, but its not as good when fighting fast movers close in as the dire is (and the dire is pretty bad at this as well, but the raised ani cockpit has terrible visibility of the close in ground). with all the nascar going on right now thats pretty much how you have to play your assaults since your options are stand and fight the wolf pack or turn and get back shat trying to stay with your team who doesnt seem to care that the enemy is behind them.

Edited by LordNothing, 06 February 2018 - 03:52 PM.

[Gas Guzzler]

Some people don't know how to run Dires apparently.

I can't believe the amount of people that think Dire's are bad.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 06 February 2018 - 04:52 PM.

[Brain Cancer]

Gas Guzzler, on 06 February 2018 - 04:49 PM, said:

Some people don't know how to run Dires apparently.

I can't believe the amount of people that think Dire's are bad.

It's slow, clumsy, has mediocre hardpoint locations at best, and is the tasty treat of choice for rushers of all kinds in QP.

Don't get me wrong. It can pack a lot of firepower, but the minute someone can shoot at it outside the frontal arc, the poor thing goes to pieces in a hurry. Even now, the Kodiak is more worth the 100 tons, and there's a lot of Clan assault options that fill an assault slot in QP that are generally more likely to prosper, if only because they move faster.

[Gas Guzzler]

Nah. Gauss vomit Dire all day over the KDK.

[Yosharian]

Video or it didn't happen

[InvictusLee]

Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood, on 06 February 2018 - 01:44 PM, said:

My build up top there has more than double the DPS, not sure how you're going to pull off winning that staring contest.

You know im actually super curious as to find out which mech would actually win. You have the advantage in ROF but your projectiles are smaller.

Gas Guzzler, on 06 February 2018 - 05:16 PM, said:

Nah. Gauss vomit Dire all day over the KDK.

If i could charge 4 guass at once, my kodiak would be king...

[Champion of Khorne Lord of Blood]

Yosharian, on 06 February 2018 - 06:04 PM, said:

Video or it didn't happen

Guess I got to record all my matches, honestly wouldn't mind, would love to see some of these fights again.

November11th, on 06 February 2018 - 07:07 PM, said:

You know im actually super curious as to find out which mech would actually win. You have the advantage in ROF but your projectiles are smaller.

I'm always up for 1v1s, I love a good fight.

[Khobai]

48kph is laughable

kodiak > dire for no other reason than being much faster

but kodiak can also take endo and ferro which is like 8-9 extra tons over the direwolf

[Gas Guzzler]

Khobai, on 06 February 2018 - 07:45 PM, said:

48kph is laughable

kodiak > dire for no other reason than being much faster

but kodiak can also take endo and ferro which is like 8-9 extra tons over the direwolf

Except you are wrong. Can the Kodiak bring 8 lasers and dual gauss?

And that endo ferro thing is basically the same as being faster, as the weight savings just buys you a bigger engine. My Dire doesn't have any free slots really, so its not like it could just take more weapons.

Edited by Gas Guzzler, 06 February 2018 - 09:43 PM.

[Khobai]

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Except you are wrong. Can the Kodiak bring 8 lasers and dual gauss?

if I want to use gauss/laser ill use deathstrike, it does it better than the direwolf

the direwolf is not best in category for ANYTHING

[Gas Guzzler]

Khobai, on 06 February 2018 - 10:08 PM, said:

if I want to use gauss/laser ill use deathstrike, it does it better than the direwolf

the direwolf is not best in category for ANYTHING

Eh it can be more maneuverable, but Dire has it beat firepower wise.