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[Rhialto]

Came across this article if anyone is interested...

INTRO:
Piranha Games was among the first wave of Western studios with free-to-play hits, but it was there by necessity, not by design...

Source: https://www.gamesind...hwarrior-online

Edited by Rhialto, 09 February 2018 - 10:50 AM.

[blood4blood]

FYI link wouldn't load.

[Gamuray]

Rhialto, on 09 February 2018 - 09:47 AM, said:

Came across this article if anyone is interested...

INTRO:
Piranha Games was among the first wave of Western studios with free-to-play hits, but it was there by necessity, not by design...

Source: https://www.gamesind...hwarrior-online

blood4blood, on 09 February 2018 - 09:58 AM, said:

FYI link wouldn't load.

Confirmed. Doesn't load.

[mogs01gt]

https://www.gamesind...hwarrior-online

[Rhialto]

Fixed it, thanks and sorry about that....

[nitra]

Found that article really odd. kinda making PGI out as pioneers into the latest trends of gaming.

the quote "PC wasn't what it is today, Steam hadn't strengthened that aspect yet" is just absurd.

the pc was never in trouble albeit the constant media trying to proclaim how it was dead. and steam was as strong a force then as it is now. but maybe the writer got that all wrong as journalist usually misinterpret stuff in subtle ways intentionally or unintentionally.


Re reading the article and trying to understand what point its trying to make im guessing its trying to highlight struggles of pgi in becoming an independent developer of a major IP. following the path they took to get there and pointing out that their is no formula any more, its play it by ear.

if so its just odd piece out of no where.

im sure there is a purpose for this piece. maybe its something to garner interest in a possible sale ?

other wise im at a loss as to why this was ever written in the first place.

Edited by nitra, 09 February 2018 - 03:20 PM.

[Johnny Z]

nitra, on 09 February 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:

Found that article really odd. kinda making PGI out as pioneers into the latest trends of gaming.

the quote "PC wasn't what it is today, Steam hadn't strengthened that aspect yet" is just absurd.

the pc was never in trouble albeit the constant media trying to proclaim how it was dead. and steam was as strong a force then as it is now. but maybe the writer got that all wrong as journalist usually misinterpret stuff in subtle ways intentionally or unintentionally.


Re reading the article and trying to understand what point its trying to make im guessing its trying to highlight struggles of pgi in becoming an independent developer of a major IP. following the path they took to get there and pointing out that their is no formula any more, its play it by ear.

if so its just odd piece out of no where.

im sure there is a purpose for this piece. maybe its something to garner interest in a possible sale ?

other wise im at a loss as to why this was ever written in the first place.

Video games is the biggest entertainment industry, I guess its like some that comment on music or movies or even books, no big deal.

MechWarrior Online is most likely the best online game available at the moment you know. Could be way better and maybe some new games does better, but still.

Edited by Johnny Z, 09 February 2018 - 03:35 PM.

[Bilbo999]

nitra, on 09 February 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:

Found that article really odd. kinda making PGI out as pioneers into the latest trends of gaming.

the quote "PC wasn't what it is today, Steam hadn't strengthened that aspect yet" is just absurd.

the pc was never in trouble albeit the constant media trying to proclaim how it was dead. and steam was as strong a force then as it is now. but maybe the writer got that all wrong as journalist usually misinterpret stuff in subtle ways intentionally or unintentionally.


Re reading the article and trying to understand what point its trying to make im guessing its trying to highlight struggles of pgi in becoming an independent developer of a major IP. following the path they took to get there and pointing out that their is no formula any more, its play it by ear.

if so its just odd piece out of no where.

im sure there is a purpose for this piece. maybe its something to garner interest in a possible sale ?

other wise im at a loss as to why this was ever written in the first place.

PC was never dead, but there is a reason that so few PC only AAA games exist. Outside of Kickstarted ventures, they rarely happen even today.

[MechaBattler]

Bilbo999, on 09 February 2018 - 03:56 PM, said:

PC was never dead, but there is a reason that so few PC only AAA games exist. Outside of Kickstarted ventures, they rarely happen even today.

Plus why invest in just a PC and Xbox release. When you can publish a game for all three? I'm surprised though the article doesn't mention HG suing over the trailer they put out. Which really drove away any potential publishers.

Also people don't appreciate the fact PGI revived the Mechwarrior franchise. They've at least shown it is profitable. Which is what the gaming industry is more concerned with these days.

Edited by MechaBattler, 09 February 2018 - 08:11 PM.

[Zergling]

I'm not sure if I'd ever describe MWO as a 'hit'.

I mean seriously, it's success has been very limited, only able to bring in a tiny fraction of the playerbase of other F2P games.

Edited by Zergling, 09 February 2018 - 08:32 PM.

[N0ni]

So what, Russ and Bryan were once part of a mod team getting slapped with a cease and desist and once they're "successful" (liberal use of quotation marks) MWLL gets slapped with C&D.

Yeah okay bud.

Zergling, on 09 February 2018 - 08:25 PM, said:

I'm not sure if I'd ever describe MWO as a 'hit'.

It's a hit compared to Duke Nukem Forever. They worked on the multiplayer aspect.

Edited by N0ni, 09 February 2018 - 08:27 PM.

[Zergling]

N0ni, on 09 February 2018 - 08:26 PM, said:

It's a hit compared to Duke Nukem Forever. They worked on the multiplayer aspect.

Compared to other Western F2P games like League of Legends and Warframe? Hell no.

[TLBFestus]

Johnny Z, on 09 February 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

MechWarrior Online is most likely the best online game available at the moment you know. Could be way better and maybe some new games does better, but still.

I guess I'm gonna have to be the one that breaks this to you, ...... just because you are infatuated with this game, does not make it "most likely the best online game available". Not even close.

Quote

Setting expectations to our community must be one of the largest areas we learned in," Bullock said. "It's such a huge concept of learning how to interact with them in a way that doesn't create confusion or misunderstandings.

I look forward to the day they actually learn how to do this. Or did Russ think he figured it out when he told the community to basically shut up and buy the stuff and let him have all the grand ideas?

[N0ni]

Zergling, on 09 February 2018 - 08:33 PM, said:

Compared to other Western F2P games like League of Legends and Warframe? Hell no.

Could be worse, look at APB:R. Promised an engine upgrade in 2013, 2014 Q1 at the latest. Literally hasn't changed since other than more gamble boxes.

[Kaeb Odellas]

MWO is a free-to-play game that's survived for nearly 6 years. Sure it doesn't bring in League of Legends numbers, or even Planetside 2 numbers, but it's brought in enough to fund the development of a separate single-player game due for release this year (probably next year). I'd say that's decently successful.

It could certainly be worse. Remember Hawken? The PC version shut down last month. Last time I checked in with Hawken was about 3 years ago, and I'd say it was better polished then than MWO is now.

[Zergling]

N0ni, on 09 February 2018 - 08:50 PM, said:

Could be worse, look at APB:R. Promised an engine upgrade in 2013, 2014 Q1 at the latest. Literally hasn't changed since other than more gamble boxes.

Or Armored Warfare; I dropped a few hundred dollars on that game, only to see it die a miserable death.

Sure it technically still exists, but it is basically dead.

Edited by Zergling, 09 February 2018 - 09:32 PM.

[N0ni]

Zergling, on 09 February 2018 - 09:32 PM, said:

Or Armored Warfare; I dropped a few hundred dollars on that game, only to see it die a miserable death.

Sure it technically still exists, but it is basically dead.

I dropped roughly $1,500 on APB, $350 of which on gamble boxes going for the legendary guns. NA peak hours sees at most 300 people (NA server, haven't been on EU in quite some time). I still go back from time to time, but other than that it's pretty much 100% maintenance mode with occasional events. No content has been added at all (big fat zero) in years.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Johnny Z, on 09 February 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

Video games is the biggest entertainment industry, I guess its like some that comment on music or movies or even books, no big deal.

MechWarrior Online is most likely the best online game available at the moment you know. Could be way better and maybe some new games does better, but still.

than you not play other Online Games or you trolling or im not found the sarcasm in it ...or you a member from Russ Family????the only big Aspect ..it is very free from pay2Play ...seeing Battlestar galactica Online or WoT ...seeing other Games like Star Conflict or War Thunder, its miles away to became a good Game...and his has the baddest Animations after he MWLL Mod, a ugly UI (Minimap Design) and many Technical Problems and a FW thats only a Quickplay with respawn and 30 Minutes Playtime ..nothing logistical or Strategical Elements like other Games..its ok ,for a little play in the Month ..not more..Amored Warfare has 180 Mio registrated Players...BF1..Star Conflict...War thunder..Planetside

Edited by Old MW4 Ranger, 10 February 2018 - 01:53 AM.

[Johnny Z]

TLBFestus, on 09 February 2018 - 08:43 PM, said:

I guess I'm gonna have to be the one that breaks this to you, ...... just because you are infatuated with this game, does not make it "most likely the best online game available". Not even close.





I look forward to the day they actually learn how to do this. Or did Russ think he figured it out when he told the community to basically shut up and buy the stuff and let him have all the grand ideas?

Its not about favourites its about how good the game is. Name an alternative that is better. Overwatch? Super popular but garbage. PUBG? Actually doesn't look bad but very limited in scope in the extreme. Maybe some of the loot and items grind MMO's with bad pvp? No. I could go on.

Mechwarrior Online is likely the best online game available and it is also swarmed by trolls inside and out, but also a lot of good talent working on it to.

Name a better online game.

Edited by Johnny Z, 10 February 2018 - 10:04 AM.

[Johnny Z]

Old MW4 Ranger, on 09 February 2018 - 11:11 PM, said:

than you not play other Online Games or you trolling or im not found the sarcasm in it ...or you a member from Russ Family????the only big Aspect ..it is very free from pay2Play ...seeing Battlestar galactica Online or WoT ...seeing other Games like Star Conflict or War Thunder, its miles away to became a good Game...and his has the baddest Animations after he MWLL Mod, a ugly UI (Minimap Design) and many Technical Problems and a FW thats only a Quickplay with respawn and 30 Minutes Playtime ..nothing logistical or Strategical Elements like other Games..its ok ,for a little play in the Month ..not more..Amored Warfare has 180 Mio registrated Players...BF1..Star Conflict...War thunder..Planetside

I tried Warthunder and other F2P games. They don't compare. Fun for a while or to those that don't know MechWarrior Online is available.

I have recommended MechWarrior Online a few times. Always with a strong warning that it is swarmed by trolls. Nothing personal either, many online games are swarmed by trolls. This being near the top though. I would go so far as to say the more potential a game has the more it is trolled.

Reading your reply again I cant believe you think those games are in the same league as MechWarrior Online.

Edited by Johnny Z, 10 February 2018 - 10:13 AM.