69 replies to this topic

[RustyBolts]

Would really love the ability to choose my mech based on map instead of the current map voting scheme. Give us a map and 1 min to change mechs, just like in FP. That way I can bring a long range to Highlands or a brawler to HPG instead of getting stuck the other way around.

[El Bandito]

Tweet to Russ about it. https://twitter.com/russ_bullock

[RustyBolts]

I don't do twitter.

[Clydewinder]

you should be able to choose different mech variant of the same chassis on the voting screen if you are quick enough

Edited by Clydewinder, 25 February 2018 - 08:53 AM.

[InspectorG]

Problem becomes people will game their mech choices, resulting in less variety. Brawling will completely disappear(due to no brawl maps). It will all be LRMs(newbs and scrubs) and lazers-at-700m(those who can aim).

What needs fixed is Spawn locations and perhaps allowing players to choose their drop zones. Brawlers can start 'closer to center' and 'snipers' can hang back a bit. Assaults can start in places that dont screw them as much.

[El Bandito]

RustyBolts, on 25 February 2018 - 08:38 AM, said:

I don't do twitter.

Well, you should. It takes 5 mins to setup, and can make your voice be heard better than the forums. 50 players spamming his twitter would be more effective than 500 people posting in a single thread.

Edited by El Bandito, 25 February 2018 - 11:12 AM.

[RustyBolts]

Nope. Not going to do it. Don’t care if it takes 5 seconds.

[Antares102]

RustyBolts, on 25 February 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

Nope. Not going to do it. Don’t care if it takes 5 seconds.

You demand change from PGI but refuse to "change" yourself. Ironic isnt it?

El Bandito gave you the tool to make your voice heard.
PGI doesnt give a flying rubber duck about the forums.
You could also just stand up walk to the next wall and talk to it.
Would have the same effect as the forums in terms of change.

Edited by Antares102, 25 February 2018 - 12:58 PM.

[Spheroid]

I oppose Twitter on principle, not as a tool to contact Russ.

It is contributing to the dumbing down of society. People used to read more. Opinions were previously submitted in long form fashion as letters to the editor. Now, even the POTUS tweets insane rants at 3 AM instead of utilizing the staff which he is entitled to.

No one who runs a business should tweet anything. Why did I even take business communications in college if memorandums were not going to be the primary means of communication shortly into this century?

Technology has given us many amazing things in the last twenty years. Calculations per second are massively larger, flat panel screens are a huge improvement over CRTs and digital media has lead to interesting changes in consumption and rental of content.

I don't see how anything connected with social media has improved the human condition. An entire generation of youth is growing up as cyber zombies and civility and discourse are in the toilet as is trust in institutions. The alleged ability connect us all is actually doing the opposite by virtue of its echo chamber effect.

People don't need more social media, they need more interpersonal contact. Also people require quiet time to reflect and recharge their batteries between social functions not to be constantly jacked into the net where corporations, your employer or your friends know what you buy, when you bought it or when you go to the bathroom.

Edited by Spheroid, 25 February 2018 - 01:06 PM.

[ANOM O MECH]

Imagine how badly that would mess with matchmaker if you were in an assault and then switch to a light....

[Zigmund Freud]

Spheroid, on 25 February 2018 - 01:01 PM, said:

I oppose Twitter on principle, not as a tool to contact Russ.

It is contributing to the dumbing down of society .....

But how you not using it change anything of what you have mentioned? You don't sing up t twitter to tweet 24/7 and contribute to dumbing down society. You'll do like 2-3 tweets on MWO-related stuff and that's it. Don't see how reptile people can profit from it.


Regarding he proposal, what @[color=#B27204]InspectorG [/color]said. It should be no map vote altogether, to encourage people to bring more diverse jack-of-all-trades builds instead of minmaxing. Your proposal will only encourage min maxing
If you don't know and don't have any influence on next map whatsoever, you would think a bit longer before jumping into your laser vomit high alpha Supernova, because you might just get terra terma and overheat in 1 shot.

Edited by Zigmund Freud, 25 February 2018 - 01:19 PM.

[RustyBolts]

If it never gets addressed because I refuse to use Twitter then so be it. I refuse to use that crap.also not seeing where I was demanding change.

Edited by RustyBolts, 25 February 2018 - 01:28 PM.

[Antares102]

Spheroid, on 25 February 2018 - 01:01 PM, said:

It is contributing to the dumbing down of society.
...
No one who runs a business should tweet anything.

Your president runs your country using twitter.
So why shouldn't a CEO of a mediocre company use twitter as well to run his business.
Food for thought.

Despite that, I totally agree with you. I'd prefer Russ/PGI listening to the voices on the forums more.
They prefer not to due to the hostile environment (=critics). They need their save-spaces, i.e. twitter, where you can easily block people if you don't like them.

Edited by Antares102, 25 February 2018 - 01:25 PM.

[Spheroid]

@Zigmund: If I sign up with Twitter it would be a net positive for them as it gives them a larger apparent user base even if I do not use it or use it infrequently. I don't wish to support them in ANY fashion.

Edited by Spheroid, 25 February 2018 - 01:31 PM.

[SeventhSL]

This community just wants to see the same few Mechs on the same few maps with the exact same blend of terrain features. If they actually achieve that goal then they will then complain the game is to bland and leave.

If you absolutely must choose your Mech for the map then play faction warfare. Otherwise adapt and overcome. Learning to brawl with your long range builds is a great skill to have and it will make you a much better player. Learning to use a brawler on a long range map will teach you patients and situational awareness. Some of my best games happened when I got put well outside of my comfort zone.

The fact that there is easy mode hard cover on most maps is why a lot of good player struggle on maps like Polar and don't think undulation ridges can be used as cover. Lets not dumb down the community even further. Adversity is the mother of invention.

[RustyBolts]

To get back on topic, no soldier today, in the past or future would voluntarily show up to a fight with the wrong cammo or weapons. 1,000 years in the future and we can’t pick what mechs we drop in? I just do t get why we can’t have a drop ship of 4 prestaged mechs to choose from once we know what map and game mode we are on.

[SeventhSL]

Soldiers follow orders. They go where they are told, do what they are told and get what they are given with few exception. That is not something that is going to change now, in the past or in the future.

So voluntarily no but that's not the reality of war. Not having optimised gear for every encounter and having to make do is far closer to reality then a huge logistical operation following arround each soldier so that he can choose from +100 plus Mechs before each and every battle.

[Xetelian]

How about we don't create a map meta?

[Wil McCullough]

RustyBolts, on 25 February 2018 - 01:43 PM, said:

To get back on topic, no soldier today, in the past or future would voluntarily show up to a fight with the wrong cammo or weapons. 1,000 years in the future and we can’t pick what mechs we drop in? I just do t get why we can’t have a drop ship of 4 prestaged mechs to choose from once we know what map and game mode we are on.

Lore wise, mechs werent "weapons" in the inner sphere. They were prized and rare commodities that even got handed down in familes even. In the bt universe, we bombed ourselves back to the stone age which explains why we can't pick mechs for the map. What you see is what you get.

Clans were more optimised in that they developed omnitech which allowed techs and pilots to change loadouts based on mission parameters or preference. Our in-game feature of changing weapons, structure and engines is actually reserved for very special few in the lore.

But i miss the point. Hahaha.

[AncientRaig]

InspectorG, on 25 February 2018 - 09:14 AM, said:

Problem becomes people will game their mech choices, resulting in less variety. Brawling will completely disappear(due to no brawl maps). It will all be LRMs(newbs and scrubs) and lazers-at-700m(those who can aim).

What needs fixed is Spawn locations and perhaps allowing players to choose their drop zones. Brawlers can start 'closer to center' and 'snipers' can hang back a bit. Assaults can start in places that dont screw them as much.

Problem with that argument is that you're describing the game as it is. This wouldn't really change anything. Mid-long range laser vomit builds are the most popular. Maps like Grim Plexus are the most popular because they have low ambient heat and they favor the poke meta. All this change would do is allow people who drop in slow builds, or brawl builds, or any other build that can possibly be ****** over by the wrong map choice, to switch to something that can actually contribute to the match. It would have to be restricted to something of at least a similar weight class to keep MM from being ****** over, but it would at least help a little bit.