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[Natural Predator]

Guys it’s up to us to stop the madness. Please stop referring lurmers as cancer. It triggers them and is not fair to the fine art of potato slingers. But more important than that it’s unfair to cancer. Because unlike potato slingers, cancer actually Kills.

I hope this pc message of hope and virtue signaling solved this great and important societal issue.

[nehebkau]

Ok, they are more like the "clap"

Edited by nehebkau, 06 March 2018 - 12:34 PM.

[r4zen]

Ragnar Baron Leiningen, on 06 March 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

But more important than that it’s unfair to cancer. Because unlike potato slingers, cancer actually Kills.

wrekt

[Xannatharr]

Thank you Ragnar, it's been a quiet day on the forums and your efforts are appreciated!

[Grus]

Ragnar Baron Leiningen, on 06 March 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Guys it’s up to us to stop the madness. Please stop referring lurmers as cancer. It triggers them and is not fair to the fine art of potato slingers. But more important than that it’s unfair to cancer. Because unlike potato slingers, cancer actually Kills.

I hope this pc message of hope and virtue signaling solved this great and important societal issue.

[MischiefSC]

Ragnar Baron Leiningen, on 06 March 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Because unlike potato slingers, cancer actually Kills.

That's awesome.

Quoted so I can upvoted it again.

[Curccu]

Why not to just use term "useless" or "worthless"?

[B0oN]

Curccu, on 08 March 2018 - 05:59 AM, said:

Why not to just use term "useless" or "worthless"?

If the community decides to change the terminology to useless, please make sure to always incorporate a € sign into the word itself (as in : us€L€ss), so while we protest one derpy thing (LRM´s) we can protest another entirely mech-unrelated derpy thing (€uros) as well

[LordNothing]

its not so much the lermers as people bringing situational builds and not informing the team before the game starts. lerms are a weapon that needs a lot of coordination to work right in fp. people need to bring narcs, tags and extended sensor range. so if you just take a lerm boat without checking with your team first you are probibly going to not get the support equipment you need to function. the most valuable time to coordinate with your team is in lobby chat before the drop, and a lot of people waste it. its as easy as saying "im bringing lerms on wave x, pls bring narc/hold locks/bring scouts/etc". of couse they will immediately get presented with salt when they do that and will stop saying anything, and then you got unsupported lerm boats in your match.

Edited by LordNothing, 08 March 2018 - 04:35 PM.

[Willard Phule]

LordNothing, on 08 March 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

its not so much the lermers as people bringing situational builds and not informing the team before the game starts. lerms are a weapon that needs a lot of coordination to work right in fp. people need to bring narcs, tags and extended sensor range. so if you just take a lerm boat without checking with your team first you are probibly going to not get the support equipment you need to function. the most valuable time to coordinate with your team is in lobby chat before the drop, and a lot of people waste it. its as easy as saying "im bringing lerms on wave x, pls bring narc/hold locks/bring scouts/etc". of couse they will immediately get presented with salt when they do that and will stop saying anything, and then you got unsupported lerm boats in your match.

Easier to simply announce to the team "Please for locking of the targets, I am a nutless coward of an LRM potato. Completely unable to do anything unless someone else is facetanking damage to give me locks."

At least it's honest.

[Fake News]

cancer is actually effective.

[Vellron2005]

Ragnar Baron Leiningen, on 06 March 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Guys it’s up to us to stop the madness. Please stop referring lurmers as cancer. It triggers them and is not fair to the fine art of potato slingers. But more important than that it’s unfair to cancer. Because unlike potato slingers, cancer actually Kills.

I hope this pc message of hope and virtue signaling solved this great and important societal issue.

[Eisenhorne]

LordNothing, on 08 March 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

...of couse they will immediately get presented with salt when they do that and will stop saying anything, and then you got unsupported lerm boats in your match.

See, the reasonable response for the LRM user at that point would be to just not bring LRMs, instead of deciding to do it anyway when he knows his team isn't going to support him. Because honestly, in most cases a LRM boat mech will do less good than a direct fire mech, especially when considering all the support it needs to do its job in an even almost acceptable fashion.

[Horseman]

LordNothing, on 08 March 2018 - 04:31 PM, said:

its not so much the lermers as people bringing situational builds and not informing the team before the game starts. lerms are a weapon that needs a lot of coordination to work right in fp. people need to bring narcs, tags and extended sensor range. so if you just take a lerm boat without checking with your team first you are probibly going to not get the support equipment you need to function. the most valuable time to coordinate with your team is in lobby chat before the drop, and a lot of people waste it. its as easy as saying "im bringing lerms on wave x, pls bring narc/hold locks/bring scouts/etc". of couse they will immediately get presented with salt when they do that and will stop saying anything, and then you got unsupported lerm boats in your match.

The only situation where they end up truly unsupported is if they chose to sit in one place and blindfire - and that one is entirely on them.

[Pain G0D]

I did a 1000 plus damage with my lurm catapult yesterday which made second highest score .

Thanks to some lone hero shooting narcs all over the place .

[LordNothing]

Horseman, on 09 March 2018 - 07:17 AM, said:

The only situation where they end up truly unsupported is if they chose to sit in one place and blindfire - and that one is entirely on them.

there is that. taters gonna tater.

[LordNothing]

fenomeno, on 09 March 2018 - 06:47 AM, said:

You almost make it sound like you think the teammates are at fault here, for not bring narc and scouts, when it's ALWAYS the LRM-boat pilot that is in the wrong for bringing a terrible mech to a FP match... Players bringing 'real' mechs should not have to sacrifice their own fun and effectiveness to accommodate trash-tier LRM pilots.

If people say in the pre-game lobby ' bring narc and hold locks' and rightfully get told to f*ck off, they should probably change their drop deck, or find a pre-made group willing to coordinate with them, rahter than stubbornly drop with LRMs anyways and ruin the game for 11 other teammates.

well no. blame all around. if you get a tater in a lerm boat you will have a tater in a lerm boat. hes probibly going to pug the match and not coordinate, and because hes bad he will sit in the back so he dies last and doesnt know the benefits from being 200m from the front. but if a lerm boat wants to coordinate thats a step out of the potato zone. the build is still bad but they are going to need to play games to learn that. if on the other hand a bunch of tryhards gang up on them and call them names they may very well stop communicating and then every game there on out will be in their worthless lerm boat. they dont learn anything.

and its not that everyone shares the opinion that lerms are bad. ive seen lerms do great things in fp and it was the coordination that made that happen. i personally dont use them, im strictly a direct fire guy. im sure as hell not going to bring them. but give them to a unit like hhod and they are winning games.

Edited by LordNothing, 09 March 2018 - 02:31 PM.

[Hobbles v]

Ragnar Baron Leiningen, on 06 March 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Because unlike potato slingers, cancer actually Kills..

*proceeds to die by potatoes*

OPs alt is November Juliet

Edited by Hobbles v, 10 March 2018 - 03:55 PM.

[Rogue Three]

Hi, I'm a potato with a question! First off, let me reassure you that, barring events like the one with the stockings last Christmas, I don't bother with FP.

The first mech I ever bought I picked for no reason other than that it could carry 4 LRM 20's with Artemis without moving like a geriatric turtle. It is still my favourite mech, and the only one I can consistently get a 200 matchscore with in QP (unless we get roflstomped). Yes, I am fully aware that this is nothing stellar, but it's still the best I can do (feel free to reread those first two sentences at this point). The one and only time I ever saw a 250 match score in FP was the time before I got chewed out by my teammates for lurming and had dropped both an assault and a heavy with them in a conquest match on Caustic Valley. That match ended before I ever ran out of missiles with my second mech; all lasers overheated or just tickled my armour, nobody had AMS, it was glorious and fun (again: first two sentences; think of them as your security blanket).

However, my teammates were quite adamant that lurming is a no-no, so I bought and tried other mechs with other weapon systems. ATM's, SSRM's, all types of lasers and PPC's, nothing really in the ballistics department because by then I'd come to the conclusion that my aim and positioning are just too crappy. I simply cannot do anything useful face to face with another mech and lack the map awareness to reliably outmanoeuver them. I scraped the rest of my free mech together with 100's, the occasional 150 and a lot of 50's.

Now, tell me: the next time PGI lures me into FP with an event, which mech do you want me to bring? My trusty potato slinger, knowing that you have a 90% chance of my damage being average, or basically anything else, which means it's a toss-up between "the same damage with a different weapon" and "nothing, because the enemy saw me first"?

[Lovas]

Catch us with enough booze (DILLY DILLY!) and the right map and you'll see that BCMC is a professional LRM team (even though we hide it in the shadows...its true!) There are more of these matches than we care to admit. I mean seriously, LRMS are tailored for Tier 4 and 5 according to PGI right? That is right in our wheelhouse.


EDIT
Just adding this here as proof. The Templars were great sports about this. I know if I was on the receiving end of all of these missiles my blood would be boiling.



Yes, it is so much easier to do this as Clan than IS.

Edited by Lovas, 09 March 2018 - 07:57 PM.