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#181 MISBEHAVING 2112

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:07 PM

I'm just so done with trying to almost kill mechs to get a kmdd and not the kill.
I am sorry to say that for me this event is so broken. I will play my existing mechs but won't try to complete the whole challenge with loner or by buying relevant chassis.

Usually i love the challenges and strive for completeness.

But this one goes down as an epic fail PGI.

Thank you subsequent poster for clarifying the kill / kmdd, now i can just kill, kill, kill.

The fail is in my understanding, apologies PGI.

Just misbehaving

Edited by MISBEHAVING 2112, 08 March 2018 - 08:41 AM.


#182 Doctor Dinosaur

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:19 PM

Hmmm... we all know now that this event is ****** and bugged and whatnot, BUT, consider this:
How about making phase 2 not a total disaster and instead making something...well...better than phase 1?
We already had some very nice events, how about adapting the goals of phase 2 to something along those lines?

#183 MovinTarget

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 01:33 PM

View PostMISBEHAVING 2112, on 07 March 2018 - 01:07 PM, said:

I'm just so done with trying to almost kill mechs to get a kmdd and not the kill.


Is the event requirement to not kill?

If you do all the damage *and* get the kill you get credit for both typically. That's why in previous events where there was a single counter for both Kills and KMDDs you could get double per target if you scored both the kill and the KMMDD...

View Postwfischer, on 07 March 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:


So you changed the event in such a way that I now have to rely on my teammates to secure kills after I've dealt damage. I'm not sure how that qualifies as less frustrating!


Just kill them, you still get the KMDD even if you kill 'em

#184 Rhialto

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:00 PM

OUCH, was giving some trials a go, it's hard to play... There should be a kind of hidden buff on armor/skeletal depending on Tier level. Bringing an unskilled Trial on a T1 game is not fun.

One suggestion, each Tier level give 20% of skills in both SURVIVAL and maybe MOBILITY if it's not asking too much?

Otherwise it's just make no sense at all to bother pilot a trial as all Mechs are fully armored in higher Tier.

#185 Dee Eight

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:16 PM

Ummmm... not sure why tier has anything to do with whether a mech is skilled or not being any good. Tier is a game time XP bar. It has nothing at all to do with player skill level or ability.

#186 Pain G0D

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:18 PM

Wow you guys complain about anything and everything . Poor ol PGI danged if they do and danged if they don't . I hope they do as they please because at least someone will be happy , them.

You really should stop moaning.................NOBODY IS LISTENING.



#187 Wild_Alaskan

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:26 PM

View PostPain G0D, on 07 March 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

You really should stop moaning.................NOBODY IS LISTENING.


You did.

#188 Lupineuk

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:46 PM

View PostMISBEHAVING 2112, on 07 March 2018 - 01:07 PM, said:

I'm just so done with trying to almost kill mechs to get a kmdd and not the kill.

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If you qualified for the kmdd doesn't matter if you then kill it too. You lose nothing for it. You still have the kmdd

#189 Xaat Xuun

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 05:24 PM

View PostAnHell86, on 07 March 2018 - 06:47 AM, said:

KMDDs are a real challenge in some of the trial mechs. Thanks for the challenge update.

Expect lots of friendly fire when you are securing your kills up close.


heh a image just crossed my mind . .. so like when a team needs to body block a gen, now one needs to body block friendly fire to secure the KMDD

I did purchase a Mist lynx, I wasn't going to go through the pain of trying the event with the trial version, not something that can only do a 16 dmg alpha, it had a better chance of completing with kills, but now, just KMDD for that one will be a real challenge, not impossible, just extremely challenging
I'll probably buy a Blackjack, it was the very first mech I bought (forgot which variant(s)) but sold 'em to make room for another mech, should still have HXP

#190 HansonTheory

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 05:24 PM

I finnaly got a solo kil in a shadow cat and....Did not get the kmdd seriosuly .Getting these is near imposible for me as a player in trial mecks with les than a month exp .At least i could get some kils and saviour kils..

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 05:35 PM

don't under stand some of the replies, most events some players cannot comit to, due to funds or the time to gain the funds to purchase every mech out there, this event opened it up for everyone, rich or poor, time limited or no life, they all can participate , not debating some choices of mechs are less then ideal to complete the event, but still they are given the opportunity to partake in the event, and get some funds to actually purchase a mech sooner

calling the event a fail, ???? in what way, it's a great event . . for every one, not just a selected group

and to the ones stating they have to not kill . . WHAT ???

#192 paws2sky

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:16 PM

Appreciate the fix and the reduced requirements.

Wish player behavior was fixable. Leeeeeeeroy Kerensky is in full effect tonight.


-paws

#193 Dee Eight

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:31 PM

View Postpaws2sky, on 07 March 2018 - 06:16 PM, said:

Appreciate the fix and the reduced requirements.

Wish player behavior was fixable. Leeeeeeeroy Kerensky is in full effect tonight.


-paws


Three trial warhawks and i'm the only one who takes the lead and aim properly to get a kill... rest just hid behind me waiting to die. Yeah... problem is definitely NOT what passes for the current trial mechs.

#194 ZortPointNarf

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:22 PM

Event is quite fun, finally learned how to play my Oxide.
Pity about the late change due to the kill detection issue, but no worries still a fun event and enough time to complete it in.

#195 ZMech69

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 01:00 AM

I'd like to see the devs get KMDD on trial mechs. Challenge is going to be way too hard for most.

Edited by ZMech69, 08 March 2018 - 01:00 AM.


#196 Marius Evander

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 03:58 AM

View PostZMech69, on 08 March 2018 - 01:00 AM, said:

I'd like to see the devs get KMDD on trial mechs. Challenge is going to be way too hard for most.


IMHO the order of difficulty to do this in the trial mechs from easiest to hardest would be Orion, Catapult, warhawk, shadowcat, griffon jenner myst lynx zeus. 1st 2-3 being relatively easy

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 04:49 AM

View PostZortPointNarf, on 07 March 2018 - 10:22 PM, said:

Event is quite fun, finally learned how to play my Oxide.
Pity about the late change due to the kill detection issue, but no worries still a fun event and enough time to complete it in.


Hadn't run my Jennys since before the skill tree, forgot how fun they can be...

#198 Gasoline

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 05:57 AM

View PostCadoazreal, on 08 March 2018 - 03:58 AM, said:


IMHO the order of difficulty to do this in the trial mechs from easiest to hardest would be Orion, Catapult, warhawk, shadowcat, griffon jenner myst lynx zeus. 1st 2-3 being relatively easy


The Jenner is alright... it's a Jenner... walking CT, but it's an alright config... play it as a striker, hit and run. For KMDDs it's... not that easy as will get hot pretty fast.
The Mist Lynx is the biggest party pooper on the board. It's just plain bad... everyone's better off purchasing a MLX-G and go for it.. it will pay off and save you a LOT of frustration.
The Griffin is okay in terms of the loadout... XL can be done on a Griffin, but it's difficult for someone new to the game as the missle pod can the targeted so easy.
The Shadow Cat is the second party pooper. Why they went for that loadout I dunno... Again, get a Shadow Cat, cram some ER PPCs or streaks into it, and save yourself the frustration.
The Catapult I find not so easy to work with as the XL really hampers the mech. It's slow and very vulnerable.
The Orion IIC is the best of the bunch for sure. Then again, the Orion IIC is a beast in itself.
The Zeus is again hampered by it's XL engine. Zeus' are not the most tanky mechs by design, but with an XL... nah...
The Warhawk is okay-ish... It's very hot, and I find Gauss on a Warhawk just doesn't really work very well... also 2 LPL works better on the energy arms -> better convergence.

But let's have a look at next weeks bunch.

The Panther... is a standard Panther loadout... not the best light in existence but can be worked pretty well. Just not that newbie friendly as in if you lose the arm... If you can keep your target in sight pretty okay for getting KMDDs.
The Cheetah... is actually a very newbie friendly design. Not too hot, decent firepower and decent hitboxes. Won't be too easy to get KMDDs tho as they just nerfed the recycle time of the ERSL a bit.
The Blackjack... was a beast back in the days. You don't see them that often anymore. It has an XL engine and is a bit on the fragile side. But the AC20 with the cooldown and velocity quirks can be great for KMDD farming.
The Stormcrow... is decent. I really like the MPL if you can keep it on target. Will be decent for KMDDs.
The Dragon... was never a newbie friendly mech and even with the quirks it never will be. The loadout is okay, but you need to keep the range up due to the XL engine. Won't be easy for KMDDs for sure.
The Timber Wolf... would be decent if they used the shoulder energy ST for higher mounts. Don't like the gorilla arms. Would've gone for a MPL build on this thing, but then again... it's a Timber Wolf... decent mech anyway.
The King Crab... is decent. Does even come with a std engine. Lil' bit on the hot side, but eh... still decent.
The Highlander IIC... is okay. I have the same loadout on mine. Dunno why, but I find Highlanders not the easiest mechs to handle - but that's probably just me anyway. I think Baradul (Molten Metal) has a few videos on this particular loadout.

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 07:27 AM

ECM Griffin with 4 RL20s, 2 ER LL and a big engine :)

Flank and spank, get one KMDD per drop if you can get behind the enemy...

#200 Gasoline

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 07:56 AM

View PostMovinTarget, on 08 March 2018 - 07:27 AM, said:

ECM Griffin with 4 RL20s, 2 ER LL and a big engine Posted Image

Flank and spank, get one KMDD Solo Kill per drop if you can get behind the enemy...


ftfy Posted Image

4 RL20 get the job done on every mech can sport it. But you're right, the -2N is a very fine mech.

The meanest thing I've seen so far is a CPLT-K2 with 4 SNPPC and 2 MGs... Really scary if you turn a corner and find this on the other side.





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