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[Mad Dog Morgan]

Hey, saw that the Warhawks dipped in price. Are they still worth picking up? If so, which variant?

[Exard3k]

Prime or -C, Hero is great as well.

[FearNotDeath]

F, oh wait...

[sardakarx]

B variant can be a blast too with kind of a splat variant and pulse lasers

[Brethren]

I'd go for-Prime. It's still one of the best PPC carriers out there, primarily due to quirks on omnipods as well as the set-of-8 and the shipload of heat sinks every WHK comes with.
Big plus: You do not need to spend a lot of cbills on equipment. Simply drop the missiles, maybe pick a different TC and add heat sinks. Finished!


-B and -C net you additional hardpoints but their builds do not stand out among other assaults as much as the -Prime does.

Edited by Brethren, 08 March 2018 - 01:42 AM.

[Audacious Aubergine]

Most people will tell you that anything the Warhawk does, the Marauder IIC will do better. Personally, I have a soft spot for the Warhawk and seem to do better overall in it than in the Marauder (possibly because I might not get focused as hard, who knows)
In no particular order, the Prime is still a good PPC mech. I favour the -C - I run it with 2x ER PPC, 2x LPL and an ERSL as a heat neutral backup poker. If you can spare the cash, the hero can also be pretty brutal. I run mine with 3x HML, 2x UAC10 and an LRM15 for the first few minutes to annoy people.

[DerHuhnTeufel]

I picked up the C on sale and fitted 2 ER PPCs and 3 MPL. First match I did almost 1100 damage. Thinking it could use some torso speed but it's a very solid mech.

[justcallme A S H]

Audacious Aubergine, on 08 March 2018 - 03:24 AM, said:

Most people will tell you that anything the Warhawk does, the Marauder IIC will do better.

Who says that?

WHK is far better @ cERPPC and cERL boating and has higher mounts.

[Koniving]

I'm flabbergasted.
All the Marauder IIC being superior hubjub (which some is true, some not so much) is usually from many of those meta-mechs worshiping enthusiasts (and numerous other youtubers.)

But yes, there are a number of things that each does fairly well. For example, the Warhawk is not great (actually its absolutely terrible) for ballistic-based builds (though it appears that if you have the right arm from the Hero, a decent ballistic build might be possible).
It does energy builds very well and it does pretty good at builds with missile launchers, too. The Warhawk B, due to its additional CT missile launcher, is the best for missile-based builds that rely on multiple launchers.
The Prime would be your goto for cERPPCs for obvious reasons (Quiiiiirks!)

Until last year, the Warhawks Prime and B were among my biggest money makers. I haven't used them since the new skill tree, however, as they're among 280+ mechs that I gotta go through, do the skill tree for, etc.. and that very quickly becomes a chore even if you're given all the historical skill points needed to unlock 91 nodes immediately as there's still the 'game' of clicking everything...

Edited by Koniving, 09 March 2018 - 02:27 PM.

[DarkFhoenix]

I picked up a Warhawk B and it seems to be doing a better job than my Prime at kicking butt

[justcallme A S H]

They only difference with the B is the missile CT... Which is only good for SRM or, dare I say it, LRMs.

The other variants and set-of-8 quirks are far more useful/attractive.

[Audacious Aubergine]

justcallme A S H, on 09 March 2018 - 02:01 PM, said:

Who says that?

WHK is far better @ cERPPC and cERL boating and has higher mounts.

Not me. Personally I still prefer the Warhawk

[Spare Parts Bin]

I picked up the C. I use 1 UAC-5 in the Rt. Arm, 2 SRM-6 in the Rt. Torso,an ERLL in the CT, twin Heavy ML in the Lft. Arm and either a third SRM-6 or an ATM6 or 9 or LRM-15. This is a good build for me.

Edited by Spare Parts Bin, 11 March 2018 - 12:47 PM.

[Damnedtroll]

Using the C with 4 lpulses cutting things up. Warhawk is just not the mech to tank damage, you need to clearly engage the enemy with others teammate. Marauder can forgive you more on a rambo heresy than the Warhawk.

[The Basilisk]

Mad Dog Morgan, on 05 March 2018 - 04:15 PM, said:

Hey, saw that the Warhawks dipped in price. Are they still worth picking up? If so, which variant?

Most Things have been mentioned already:
- Averange speed,
- bad/averange hitboxes,
- most weapons in his arms when you go for energy boat
- good at energy boating,
- good at missile boating,
- reactor not changable due to omnimech
- lots of fixed equipment
- dead left torso/ no hardpoints

To me it is a fun but overexpensive, averange assault mech that can do a very narrow band of things on specific ocassions quite good but will perform averange or fail spectacularely in a much larger number of cases.
Reason why ppl prefere the MADIIC is the potential to optimize it more and customize other things than hardpoints and loadout as well as having a wider range of ballistic and energy options.
Also the Hitboxes of MAD IIC are much better than those of Warhawk.

Edited by The Basilisk, 11 March 2018 - 06:04 AM.

[Zergling]

Spare Parts Bin, on 11 March 2018 - 03:54 AM, said:

I picked up the C. I use 1 UAC-5 in the Rt. Arm, 2 SRM-6 in the Rt. Torso,an ERLL in the CT, twin Heavy ML in the Lft. Arm and either a third SRM-6 or an ATM6 or 9 or LRM-15. This is a good build for me.

No offence meant, but that build makes no sense at all to me.

[Spare Parts Bin]

Zergling, on 12 March 2018 - 11:41 PM, said:

No offence meant, but that build makes no sense at all to me.

The ERLL allows you to poke or harass as you advance as would an LRM-15. However I usually end up with 3 SRM-6, 2 Heavy MLs,and a UAC-5. The Heavy MLs and the SRMs have about the same range. The UAC-5 and ERLL allow me to reach out and pound someone.

[sardakarx]

https://mwo.smurfy-n...dd2f3d5880ba3a8

Super fun WHK-B build

*very cool too

Edited by sardakarx, 13 March 2018 - 02:41 PM.

[Spare Parts Bin]

sardakarx, on 13 March 2018 - 02:40 PM, said:

https://mwo.smurfy-n...dd2f3d5880ba3a8

Super fun WHK-B build

*very cool too

I like the weapons but it doesn't have a stitch of armour.

[sardakarx]

Spare Parts Bin, on 13 March 2018 - 02:53 PM, said:

I like the weapons but it doesn't have a stitch of armour.

figured people would be smart enough to do what they would armor wise... clearly you proved me wrong